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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on December 09, 2016, 09:41:32 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028347473
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:37 PM
Star Member rzemanfl (13,316 posts)
President Obama can save this country.
He needs to go on TV and speak to the nation. He has to lay out the interference by Russia in our democratic process, even at the risk of compromising sources and methods. He needs to go on to say an election that happened under the influence of such interference is a nullity. He should set a new election date. Then he should announce he has positioned troops around the country and called up the National Guard and he will not hesitate to declare martial law in the event of violence.
He will rank with Washington and Lincoln in the history of this nation if he does. If he doesn't we will have to fix things ourselves and it will be very messy.
The SS is going to be on the phone again skins.
Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:40 PM
Star Member lonestarnot (77,068 posts)
1. He will.
Right after his last taxpayer funded vacation. :lmao:
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Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:37 PM
Star Member rzemanfl (13,316 posts)
President Obama can save this country.
He needs to go on TV and speak to the nation. He has to lay out the interference by Russia in our democratic process, even at the risk of compromising sources and methods. He needs to go on to say an election that happened under the influence of such interference is a nullity. He should set a new election date. Then he should announce he has positioned troops around the country and called up the National Guard and he will not hesitate to declare martial law in the event of violence.
He will rank with Washington and Lincoln in the history of this nation if he does. If he doesn't we will have to fix things ourselves and it will be very messy.
Just go back and eat more crows.
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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #1)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:44 PM
Star Member flamingdem (34,229 posts)
3. You think?
I think they already said the results stand unfortunately.
Response to flamingdem (Reply #3)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:46 PM
Star Member lonestarnot (77,071 posts)
5. I believe that if Mr. President knows information that the Russian's threw our election that he will
do something about it. I do. He's a bad whammer jammer!
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Anyone who is thinking about starting a small business might consider building a straight jacket factory.
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Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:37 PM
Star Member rzemanfl (13,316 posts)
President Obama can save this country.
He needs to go on TV and speak to the nation. He has to lay out the interference by Russia in our democratic process, even at the risk of compromising sources and methods. He needs to go on to say an election that happened under the influence of such interference is a nullity. He should set a new election date. Then he should announce he has positioned troops around the country and called up the National Guard and he will not hesitate to declare martial law in the event of violence.
He will rank with Washington and Lincoln in the history of this nation if he does. If he doesn't we will have to fix things ourselves and it will be very messy.
Since they have nothing concrete on the Russians actually hacking the voting system - and in fact the only tracked hacking of actual voting databases that went to a government agency turned out to be from our own dear Homeland Security Administration - this would be kind of tough to do.
If you idiots think the military - regular, guard, or reserve - is going to back a play to keep Obozo on past January 20th and invalidate the election, I'd like to sell you the snorkeling concession on Mars. As far as your amateurish attempt to play the role of a Marat, I'll believe you 'Fixing things yourself' when I see 'Also known as rzemanfl' in a list of bodies after your children's crusade meets up with real bullets.
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The DUmmies wish for Emperor Shit Midas to go full Ferdinand Marcos, with total Federal forces of 3 million (including active duty military, National Guard, Reserve, and every Federal law enforcement officer) against 100 million armed Citizens in all 50 states, who have the home field advantage and control the entire infrastructure of every city, county, and state.
They really, really don't know what they are wishing for.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S93lvQ4Ukg8[/youtube]
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Funny, when there's a hint, but no proof, that Russia had anything to do with our election, the DUmmies have a fit. Yet the DUmmies didn't seem to mind when Obama was overtly meddling in Israeli elections.
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That whole campfire needs to be seen to be believed. Unhinged doesn't even begin to describe it.
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A bad whammer jammer? What freaking decade is this?
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A bunch of undiagnosed lunatics, commonly referred to as DUmmies, thinks that Putin likes Trump because Hillary would be one tough cookie.
:stoner:
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Anyone who is thinking about starting a small business might consider building a straight jacket factory.
:-)
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That whole campfire needs to be seen to be believed. Unhinged doesn't even begin to describe it.
I just got back.....
(https://s2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/97zaFDKoO8r53zpG3DWNQQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/lifestyles/2014-10-23/4d9d5450-5a99-11e4-97d8-a798d4cc454b_sewage-worker.jpg)
....and I still don't believe it.
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A bad whammer jammer? What freaking decade is this?
He's just talkin' bout Shaft.
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Sounds like more of this:
A Clinton Fan Manufactured Fake News That MSNBC Personalities Spread to Discredit WikiLeaks Docs
When Nance – MSNBC’s “intelligence analyst†– issued his “Official Warning,†he linked to a tweet that warned: “Please be skeptical of alleged #PodestaEmails. Trumpists are dirtying docs.†That tweet, in turn, linked to a tweet from an anonymous account calling itself “The Omnivore,†which had posted an obviously fake transcript purporting to be a Hillary Clinton speech to Goldman Sachs. Even though that fake document was never published by WikiLeaks, that was the entire basis for the MSNBC-inspired claim that some of the WikiLeaks documents were doctored.
But the person who created that forged Goldman Sachs transcript was not a “Trumpist†at all; he was a devoted supporter of Hillary Clinton. In the Daily Beast, the person behind the anonymous “The Omnivore†account unmasks himself as “Marco Chacon,†a self-professed creator of “viral fake news†whose targets were Sanders and Trump supporters (he specialized in blatantly fake anti-Clinton frauds with the goal of tricking her opponents into citing them, so that they would be discredited). When he wasn’t posting fabricated news accounts designed to make Clintons’ opponents look bad, his account looked like any other standard pro-Clinton account: numerous negative items about Sanders and then Trump, with links to many Clinton-defending articles.
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/
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Funny, when there's a hint, but no proof, that Russia had anything to do with our election, the DUmmies have a fit. Yet the DUmmies didn't seem to mind when Obama was overtly meddling in Israeli elections.
Honduras also, IIRC.
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I remember the good ol' days when Bush was going to cancel the 2004 election and declare "marshall law." Those were heady times!
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He's just talkin' bout Shaft.
Shut your mouf!
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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #1)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:58 PM
Star Member Maraya1969 (11,691 posts)
11. Everyone please write to him. I did last night asking him to put in our Supreme court
court nominee and explained how it could mean horror and probably death for members of my family if the AHC is actually defunded, (I think the Supreme Court could stop something like that)
And I added some real other concerns about a potential 3 new CONSERVATIVE judges on there. Laws can be changed. But Supreme court decisions are an entire other ball game.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
If enough people write to him about what you are saying he would know he has the American people behind him.
And I do believe he can be a real bad ass and won't be surprised if he instills martial law for a time being. A friend who spent her entire career in the army told me she thinks that is what he will do.
You really really should be careful what you wish for.
Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:44 PM
roamer65 (10,233 posts)
4. He can declare a national emergency under the National Emergency Act.
Response to roamer65 (Reply #4)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:58 PM
Star Member progressoid (39,209 posts)
10. He can. But he won't.
He's too accommodating.
Response to progressoid (Reply #10)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:06 PM
Star Member Maraya1969 (11,691 posts)
15. I am not picking on you but your post explains why the Democrats need new
strategy. There is too much of this, "It won't work" flying across Dems mouths!
We need to be the change we want to see. You can do it and you can help other people do it.
When we lose,declare martial law!
I see another 57 state landslide heading your way Hugo.
Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:53 PM
Star Member AgadorSparticus (6,039 posts)
7. I believe in him. I believe he will do the right thing.
I just feel sorry for him. I think he is ready to enjoy life as a civilian again. And yet, poor guy may have to be the busiest lame duck in the history of the United States. This is kind of a big fire.
Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:28 AM
Star Member longship (35,084 posts)
20. There are no election redos under our constitution.
And President Obama is not a dictator. He has no power to nullify a national election.
Want to get rid of Drumpf? First, get a majority in both houses of congress, than impeach and convict.
That's how it works in the USA. The only way.
Response to longship (Reply #20)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 04:03 AM
TheFrenchRazor (502 posts)
38. we never had a legitimate election in the first place, so it wouldn't be a "re-do." nt
See,sanity will get you nowhere.
Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:49 AM
Star Member colorado_ufo (2,495 posts)
21. President Obama needs to share this information, on air, with the public.
Then, he needs to petition THE SUPREME COURT, in light of the election's having been compromised, to call a second election.
When the Supreme Court decided to intervene in the matter of Bush v Gore, they set a precedent for involving the Court in a national election.
This precedent can be used for the Court's privilege to order a second election, as the matter of a foreign actor interfering with a US election is not (to my knowledge) specifically addressed in the Constitution. Since an opinion of "no confidence" could be reasonably given to the results of this election, and since this cause of a compromised election is not addressed in the Constitution, then remedies stated and approved in the Constitution for such events as a tied election do not apply, and the Court could declare the first election null and void and set a date for another.
If the results remain the same, then so be it, but it should be done.
Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 01:47 AM
Star Member Solomon (9,302 posts)
28. Get a grip.
This is exactly what the right wing conspiracy nuts have been saying Obama would do for 8 years. Chaos and civil war would break out and the idiots would finally have their excuse for using all those guns and bullets they've been stockpiling.
Shaaaaadup! :rant:
Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 04:35 AM
Star Member Tarheel_Dem (26,892 posts)
41. Aw Jeez. Do they still teach civics in school these days?
Yeah,but retards don`t learn them.
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Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:02 AM
infiniti30 (2 posts)
35. have you lost your mind?
So you want Obama to officially become a dictator?
Didn't you know what DU was before you signed up? What happened overnight that the insanity went into overdrive?
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Didn't you know what DU was before you signed up? What happened overnight that the insanity went into overdrive?
Gee. It's almost as if all that talk about Bush declaring "marshall law" was just the Proglodytes projecting onto him what they feel entitled to do themselves.
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Leftists are like cats.
-Other than size, and the presence of retractable claws (not all cats have them) - all cats behave the same way - be it a lion, or someone's pet named 'Fluffy' or 'Princess'. -Leftists too. Big and powerful, or small and weak, all leftists share common behaviors - one of the most common is to silence those with whom they disagree. - The DUmmies are hoping that Obama is a large enough cat to get the job done, as they are too small and weak to do it themselves.
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I remember the good ol' days when Bush was going to cancel the 2004 election and declare "marshall law." Those were heady times!
At least they've finally figured out how to spell "martial" correctly.
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He's just talkin' bout Shaft.
Hush yo mouf!
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Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:24 AM
Star Member ileus (14,854 posts)
59. Why set a date for a new election at all.
With the massive hacking of the votes he could simply say that he was the last president elected by the people in a fair election. That no new election would be set until a point and time where voting could be guaranteed "hack free".
For the vast majority of us we'd not have a problem extending his term out 2, 4, or even 8 more years.
Then declare martial law and if the red staters revolted we'd crush them with our military. Perhaps in the next election their votes really wouldn't matter. It would be a win win or our party and real America.
:lmao: :fuelfire:
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They have some short memories.
Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie, the Little Rock restaurateur who became a controversial fund-raiser for President Clinton, entered into a plea agreement with the Justice Department yesterday, winning leniency in exchange for telling all in an investigation of improper campaign contributions originating in China.
... As the conduit for more than $600,000 in contributions to the Democratic National Committee that had to be returned as coming from illegal or suspect sources, Trie has long been viewed as a potential font of information on whether Democratic Party or White House officials knowingly accepted improper funds and on alleged efforts by the government of China to influence the presidential election.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/stories/trie052299.htm
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Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:24 AM
Star Member ileus (14,854 posts)
59. Why set a date for a new election at all.
~~Blah Blah~~
Then declare martial law and if the red staters revolted we'd crush them with our military. Perhaps in the next election their votes really wouldn't matter. It would be a win win or our party and real America.
"Your military?" The military is overwhelmingly conservative. They are sworn to uphold the constitution, not obey the whim of a president/dictator. These are men and women who's vote have been suppressed by Lefties in govt for the last 30 years.
The left would have to take up arms themselves and face down us AND the military.
Bring it.
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Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:37 PM
If you idiots think the military - regular, guard, or reserve - is going to back a play to keep Obozo on past January 20th and invalidate the election, I'd like to sell you the snorkeling concession on Mars. As far as your amateurish attempt to play the role of a Marat, I'll believe you 'Fixing things yourself' when I see 'Also known as rzemanfl' in a list of bodies after your children's crusade meets up with real bullets.
I firmly believe that the military will follow all of 0bama's lawful orders until 1159 EST 20 Jan 2017. After that, they will display that there is "no better friend, no worse enemy" than an American service member fulfilling their oath to the Constitution.
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Shut your mouf!
I can dig it.
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The registered hunters in just three states (Kentucky, Missouri, Ohio if IIRC) outnumber our standing army, navy, air force, and marines. And that was four years ago. Obama been reducing the armed services for you totalitarian leftists. While decent and civilized people have purchased more than 50 million guns.
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The registered hunters in just three states (Kentucky, Missouri, Ohio if IIRC) outnumber our standing army, navy, air force, and marines. And that was four years ago. Obama been reducing the armed services for you totalitarian leftists. While decent and civilized people have purchased more than 50 million guns.
300,000,000 guns and over a trillion rounds of ammo out there.
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Wow, a voice of reason at the dump:
ryan_cats
60. That is truly
That is truly brilliant.
While nothing would please me more than the type of chaos this action would bring, you do realize who has all the weapons and also think they have the divine right to use them against their fellow humans and Americans? How many in the armed forces would think nullifying the results of an election by President Obama is probably a bad thing and would be sympathetic to Trump's side?
And on our side, people who need safe spaces to deal with an unpleasant reality and keyboard warriors.
A lot of people will die and lots of lives will be destroyed and while I can certainly live with that, can you?
Once again, the three d chess b.s. about how President Obama is putting all his ducks in a row before he unleashes marshal law while Trump plays checkers.
We laughed at people who thought Jade Helm would result in FEMA camps but this, entirely plausible, why it is starting to feel like Fitzmas.
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A noob noticed Ileus:
Response to ileus (Reply #59)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:52 PM
SomethingNew (53 posts)
85. Holy shit.
I really hope this is a troll post. This whole thread is frightening to witness.
I, for one, would have a huge problem with suspended elections and having Obama stay on as Supreme Leader for another few years.
Response to SomethingNew (Reply #85)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 04:04 PM
CountAllVotes (14,518 posts)
88. Go suck on a tea bag
I hear it is good for herpes of the mouth.
Response to rzemanfl (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:40 PM
demjayhawk (3 posts)
69. We need to take action
We need to start a petition to make Obama respond to this while he still can. He can not simply ignore all of this. He needs to get involved and at least find a way to appoint Biden as his replacement. Worst case, marshal law?
:rotf:
And it continues with rzemanfl sitting there, hitting refresh, responding to every attempt at reason with hysterical insanity. It's a great thread.
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esponse to lonestarnot (Reply #1)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:58 PM
Star Member Maraya1969 (11,691 posts)
11. Everyone please write to him. I did last night asking him to put in our Supreme court
court nominee and explained how it could mean horror and probably death for members of my family if the AHC is actually defunded, (I think the Supreme Court could stop something like that)
Go on I'm listening. :popcorn:
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Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:37 PM
Star Member rzemanfl (13,316 posts)
President Obama can save this country.
He needs to go on TV and speak to the nation. He has to lay out the interference by Russia in our democratic process, even at the risk of compromising sources and methods. He needs to go on to say an election that happened under the influence of such interference is a nullity. He should set a new election date. Then he should announce he has positioned troops around the country and called up the National Guard and he will not hesitate to declare martial law in the event of violence.
He will rank with Washington and Lincoln in the history of this nation if he does. If he doesn't we will have to fix things ourselves and it will be very messy.
Now we got the DU version of the bargaining stage of grief. Won't change a thing, Trump will still be president. DU pain gives me joy. :cheersmate:
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Yes, IBP, often times, the bargaining stage involves trying to make deals with God. In this case they turn to Obama. Some of them really do think he has the powers of God, or at least, a king. I CAN'T STAND THESE PEOPLE.
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Anyone who is thinking about starting a small business might consider building a straight jacket factory.
I'm definitely going to find out who makes anti-psychotic medications and think about investing
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I'm definitely going to find out who makes anti-psychotic medications and think about investing
Or, alternately, razor blades . . . :whistling:
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Yes, IBP, often times, the bargaining stage involves trying to make deals with God. In this case they turn to Obama. Some of them really do think he has the powers of God, or at least, a king. I CAN'T STAND THESE PEOPLE.
To the dummies, obumbles is their god. :mental:
January 20th is going to be one heck of a fun day at the dump. :popcorn:
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To the dummies, obumbles is their god. :mental:
January 20th is going to be one heck of a fun day at the dump. :popcorn:
I think DU will shut down around January 20, 2017.
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"President Obama can save this country.
He needs to go on TV and speak to the nation. He has to lay out the interference by Russia in our democratic process, even at the risk of compromising sources and methods. He needs to go on to say an election that happened under the influence of such interference is a nullity. He should set a new election date. Then he should announce he has positioned troops around the country and called up the National Guard and he will not hesitate to declare martial law in the event of violence."
In other words, have him go full- tyrant, suspend everyone's rights, and dismiss a legitimate election because a candidate the DUmmies don't like won.
"If he doesn't we will have to fix things ourselves and it will be very messy."
AAAAND, yet another call from the DUmmies for violence and possibly acts of terrorism.
"And I do believe he can be a real bad ass"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That gutless, cringing pansy who cringes like a little girl at a martial arts demonstration and bows to dictators, is "A real bad ass"?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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I think DU will shut down around January 20, 2017.
They may go into DEFCON, but being out of power actually energizes political fora. After all, DU sprouted and flowered because W was elected.
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They may go into DEFCON, but being out of power actually energizes political fora. After all, DU sprouted and flowered because W was elected.
DAT, they will use atomic demolition munitions to drill the well of batshit-crazy about another eleventy miles . . . :fuelfire:
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DAT, they will use atomic demolition munitions to drill the well of batshit-crazy about another eleventy miles . . . :fuelfire:
Not only do I not doubt it, I'm fully expecting it.
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This is why these things should jever get more than four years at a time. They are so intolerant of other worldviews they would be willing to activate the military to overthrow the republic and tamp down the will of the people.
Sometimes I wish they'd go ahead and start their little revolution they talk about so we could thin the herd.
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This is why these things should jever get more than four years at a time. They are so intolerant of other worldviews they would be willing to activate the military to overthrow the republic and tamp down the will of the people.
Sometimes I wish they'd go ahead and start their little revolution they talk about so we could thin the herd.
Sometimes I wish they'd try so the military can forcibly remove their wannabe dictator from the WH.
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Sometimes I wish they'd try so the military can forcibly remove their wannabe dictator from the WH.
They would use cordons of outward facing troops to encircle the WH and various state capitals with the intent of protecting their power elite.
But then they would realize they are one command of "About face!" from being shown just unpopular they are with the military.
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Push came to shove, if someone gave orders like that to the military, I expect they'd just stand down and refuse to take part with either faction.
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Push came to shove, if someone gave orders like that to the military, I expect they'd just stand down and refuse to take part with either faction.
GASP! Military people aren't mindless morons who do nothing but what they're told to do? Has anyone revealed this shocking fact over in DULand?
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GASP! Military people aren't mindless morons who do nothing but what they're told to do? Has anyone revealed this shocking fact over in DULand?
People who've actually been in it have a pretty good idea about what they'll do or not do. Of course there are almost none of those sort of people in the Dem leadership or on DU (Lying posers aside).