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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Patriot Guard Rider on December 08, 2016, 08:18:56 AM
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Star Member babylonsister (151,625 posts)
Trump gets to decide where in DC groups can protest his inauguration  if at all
Alice Miranda Ollstein
Politics Reporter @ThinkProgress.
Trump gets to decide where in DC groups can protest his inauguration — if at all
Civil rights groups threaten legal action as the Trump Inauguration Committee receives the lion’s share of permits.
WASHINGTON, D.C. — Hundreds of thousands of people from across the country plan to pour into the nation’s capital to protest Donald Trump’s inauguration in late January. But the National Park Service has reserved most of D.C.’s iconic public spaces for the exclusive use of Trump’s Inaugural Committee, not just on Inauguration Day itself but for the weeks leading up to and following the ceremony. Protest groups will have no access to these spaces unless the Committee voluntarily gives up their permits, which they have no incentive to do.
Local legal groups, including the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, call this move unprecedented and unconstitutional, and they say they are weighing legal action.
“This blocking permit that the National Park Service filed is an affront to the First Amendment. It is a violation of free speech rights, and it is a violation of the democratic process, in which voices must be heard,†said Carl Messineo, the organization’s legal director. “Collective assembly is in the very first amendment to the bill of rights because it is so essential to the functioning of a vital and healthy democracy.â€
The Park Service has granted Trump’s Inaugural Committee the right to reserve all of Constitution Avenue, all of Independence Avenue, Lafayette Park, the White House sidewalk, and the Ellipse at the base of Capitol Hill — from January 6 to January 30.
The Park Service confirmed to Fox 5 DC that they will not make the public spaces available to activist groups until Trump’s Inaugural Committee decides whether or not they will use them.
“What that means is that the National Park Service is giving Donald Trump the right to decide if, where, and whether people will be allowed to demonstrate against the incoming Trump Administration,†said Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, an attorney with the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund who has fought in court for protesters’ rights for every inauguration since 2001.
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https://thinkprogress.org/trump-gets-to-decide-where-in-dc-groups-can-protest-his-inauguration-if-at-all-13d9546edde0#.vz3qsxoph
So now dissent is patriotic again? Allowing these unhinged, vehement "protesters" anywhere near Trump on inauguration day would not end well. After all, protesters and Trump supporters in close proximity hasn't produced any problems so far (cough) san jose (cough) (cough) chicago (cough). You people caused enough problems at Bush's inauguration the secret service had him stop the walk and get into the limo. This time you people would make that look like a walk in the park.
WE WON. Get over it already.
Star Member annabanana (50,283 posts)
1. working hard to secure the "optics"
They are dying for a triumphal march with no naysayers visible from home.
Star Member Cha (188,187 posts)
2. Wonder if that will piss people off even more..
and more determined for further Resistance?
How did they get to protest bush2 or even Obama?
Never mind.. from your link..
Though the Park Service claimed it is following procedures established in in 2008, Verheyden-Hilliard said that Trump’s inauguration has drawn much more demand for protest permits than President Obama’s, giving the restrictions a bigger impact. “Before, groups who have wanted demonstration space have gotten demonstration space. Now, they’re being denied access.â€
Thank you, babylonsister... good to know.
Star Member Ilsa (40,220 posts)
3. Yep, this . As I've said before,
DT and his minions hate the First Amendment.
More drivel at the link.
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annabanana (50,283 posts)
1. working hard to secure the "optics"
They are dying for a triumphal march with no naysayers visible from home.
I decided screw Hail to the Chief.
I wanna hear George Frederic Handel's Hail, the Conquering Hero Comes.
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Permits to protest?
Really, proglodytes? What kind of revolutionaries are you, asking permission from your oppressor?
Did Martin Luther King apply for a permit before he marched on Selma Hayek?
Did Che Guevara apply for a permit before he protested John F Kennedy in Dallas on that November day in 1963?
Did Mohatless Ghandi apply for a permit before he threw that British tea into the Ganges River?
Screw the permits! Storm the ramparts! Show the world that you are woman, and you will roar!
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I think I may be starting to figure Trump out... at least partially.
He will get on twitter and tell them he encourages their protests 100%. Then they will find out he put them all back by the dumpster when they arrive
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Which party put up free speech zones to keep protester's away from their anointed kings?
During the 1988 Democratic National Convention, the city of Atlanta, Georgia set up a "designated protest zone"[5] so the convention would not be disrupted. A pro-choice demonstrator opposing an Operation Rescue group said Atlanta Mayor Andrew Young "put us in a free-speech cage."[6] "Protest zones" were used during the 1992 and 1996 United States presidential nominating conventions.[7]
Free speech zones have been used for non-political purposes. Through 1990s, the San Francisco International Airport played host to a steady stream of religious groups (Hare Krishnas in particular), preachers, and beggars. The city considered whether this public transportation hub was required to host free speech, and to what extent. As a compromise, two "free speech booths" were installed in the South Terminal, and groups wishing to speak but not having direct business at the airport were directed there. These booths still exist, although permits are required to access the booths.[8]
Free speech zones were used in Boston at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. The free speech zones organized by the authorities in Boston were boxed in by concrete walls, invisible to the FleetCenter where the convention was held and criticized harshly as a "protest pen" or "Boston's Camp X-Ray".
In 2007, the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education released a survey of 346 colleges and Universities in the United States.[39] Of those institutions, 259 (75%) maintain policies that "both clearly and substantially restrict freedom of speech."
all listed from WIKI, btw...
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Why do I have this feeling that this practice was followed in 2013? And 2009? And 1997? And 1993? In fact, I'd expect something similar was done for every inaugural, dating back at least to 1969 or 1965 (by Ds and Rs alike). But this is DU-folk quoting a ThinkProgress article. So they would be unfazed by facts.
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I decided screw Hail to the Chief.
I wanna hear George Frederic Handel's Hail, the Conquering Hero Comes.
Followed by Beethoven's Ode To Joy. :cheersmate:
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Here is Slime magazine's article about the inauguration of Obama in 2009. (http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1871963,00.html)
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Here is Slime magazine's article about the inauguration of Obama in 2009. (http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1871963,00.html)
But of course. :hi5:
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Star Member babylonsister (151,625 posts)
Trump gets to decide where in DC groups can protest his inauguration  if at all
<bunch of BS>
All your protests are belong to us!!!!
Protest all you want dummies. I encourage it. The fact is that Donald Trump will be sworn in as president and there is NOT ONE DAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!!
Democracy in action. Sometimes you get to drive, sometimes you got to ride in the back. Now get your asses into the trunk! :hammer:
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Trump won!!
Election have consequences.
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Please keep this quiet, but I heard that the Trump administration is going to closely funnel the protesters into specific locations. From there, the naysayers will be disappeared into their camps. Led of course by Darth Cheney.
Just part of the VRWC.
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Please keep this quiet, but I heard that the Trump administration is going to closely funnel the protesters into specific locations. From there, the naysayers will be disappeared into their camps. Led of course by Darth Cheney.
Just part of the VRWC.
:fuelfire: :tongue: True! And DU-folk are so dangerous to Trump that any detected will be diverted into camps at the bottom of the Potomac, wearing special steel camp uniforms and cement boots! :tongue: :fuelfire:
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I decided screw Hail to the Chief.
I wanna hear George Frederic Handel's Hail, the Conquering Hero Comes.
Entry of the Gladiators would probably be more appropriate. And man, would the DUmmie heads explode!
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Typically immature and selfish of the DUmmies and other leftards. The election did not go their way so they think this gives them the "right" to scream and pout and ruin Trump's inauguration for everyone else.
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Followed by Beethoven's Ode To Joy. :cheersmate:
Then, Aaron Copland's Fanfare for the Common Man. :salutearmy: :saluteaf: :thumbs:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FLMVB0B1_Ts
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Please keep this quiet, but I heard that the Trump administration is going to closely funnel the protesters into specific locations. From there, the naysayers will be disappeared into their camps. Led of course by Darth Cheney.
Just part of the VRWC.
VRWC is soooo 1990's. It is now the Vast Trumpster Conspiracy Consortium. The Don renamed it. Get with the program Ralph!!!
Last VTCC meeting I attended the plan was that a couple of those locations are going to be in the.... shall we say "rougher sections"... of DC. That is so the dummies can get a real up close view how gun control works. This is all hush-hush. So don't let it out now. The Don will be displeased if you do.