Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 03, 2016, 07:01:29 PM
Meet "Bill Palmer".
http://www.palmerreport.com/news/philadelphia-launches-voluntary-recount-after-finding-major-vote-total-discrepancies/338/
Here's a little background on this so called journalist:
http://www.palmerreport.com/about/
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Hi, I’m Bill Palmer. I’m the creator of Palmer Report. I’m a political journalist who spent the past eighteen months reporting on the 2016 election cycle from start to finish for the independent news outlet Daily News Bin, a site which received a great deal of respect from those in knowledgable political circles as well as the usual random barbs from internet trolls. As the publisher of an independent news site, I can promise you all of the following: Every one of our articles includes supporting source links for independent verification. If you’re not familiar with Palmer Report, you can use those links to confirm the accuracy of our reporting for yourself.
Some have enquired about my professional background. Prior to these past eighteen months, I have no previous background in political journalism whatsoever. And yet my reporting is often praised for being more honest and accurate and timely than the reporting that comes from those who have been doing this their entire lives. In other words, such backgrounds don’t necessarily count for much.
During the course of the election, certain internet trolls who didn’t care for my reporting style responded by obsessively spreading every comical false claim they could come up with, from my supposed secret connections to various candidates or parties or mythical political entities, to my supposed secret base in Panama. Suffice it so say that none of it is true or ever was true, and the absurdity of such conspiracies should speak for itself.
If you see a new Palmer Report article and you’re wondering why you’re not also seeing similar headlines on major news outlets, give it a few days. The way these things tend to go is that an independent news outlet pieces together the facts, lays out all the supporting evidence and sources, and takes all the heat from those who are natural skeptics – only for the bigger news outlets to eventually report the same story days later, often without acknowledging that someone like me broke it first. That’s not a complaint. It’s just a day in the life of an independent news site.
So basically, a self important DUmmy with his blog. The site & rantings are quite similar to DUmmyville.
As for DU, they've mostly swallowed it hook, line & sinker.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141630393
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Star Member Coyotl
Philadelphia launches voluntary recount after finding major vote total discrepancies
Source: Bill Palmer | December 2, 2016
One day after Palmer Report and other news outlets reported that a major change to the official voting totals out of Philadelphia had reduced the size of Donald Trump’s lead in Pennsylvania by more than twenty thousand votes, Philadelphia announced today that it’s launching an immediate and voluntary recount to determine if even more votes had been originally miscounted or excluded. Even as Jill Stein continues her legal battle to try to force the entire state of Pennsylvania to perform a recount, Philadelphia isn’t waiting around to find out whether a recount will be legally required.
Pennsylvania’s original vote totals had Donald Trump winning the state by just over seventy thousand votes. But the sudden revisions out of Philadelphia have now reduced the size of his overall lead to fewer than fifty thousand votes. The Philadelphia recount could shift these totals even further. The wildly shifting numbers in the state also give legal fuel to Jill Stein’a case for a statewide recount, both because the shifts suggest vote counting irregularities, and because the winning margin in the state is now even smaller.
If the vote totals shift in Pennsylvania such that Hillary Clinton ends up with the most votes in the state, either due to the voluntary Philadelphia recount or the still-litigated statewide recount, the state’s electoral votes would automatically be reassigned from Trump to Clinton. This is considered crucial, as if Clinton ends up winning all three recounted states, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan, she’ll become president-elect instead of Trump.
Look, fancy graphs too!
(https://question2016blog.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/screenshot-2016-11-27-20-34-36.png)
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/334046/large/2016_exit_polls.jpg)
And another amusing thread where DUmmies discuss their new leader of Fitzmas, which shall now be called "Recountmas".
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511639395
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on December 03, 2016, 07:11:04 PM
That figures.
:rofl: :rofl:
Post by: I_B_Perky on December 03, 2016, 07:12:55 PM
This is gonna be fun. :cheersmate:
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 03, 2016, 07:23:11 PM
Post by: fatboy on December 03, 2016, 07:30:37 PM
Post by: Doc Savage on December 03, 2016, 08:12:24 PM
Post by: jukin on December 03, 2016, 08:32:05 PM
Pennsylvania shuts recount down as Stein campaign is short on initial payment.
Good news, Pennsylvania's voters won't be disenfranchised (& isn't that super duper important to the left?) like the voters in Wisconsin.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 03, 2016, 08:49:12 PM
Learned such distinctions between similar words in High School journalism classes from a fantastic teacher. So I immediately suspect people that use terminology that attempts to place ones self above the lowly reader.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 03, 2016, 08:49:57 PM
His blog screens comments. Will wait and see if mine will show up.Nothing yet. But I eagerly look forward to them, Doc!
Post by: Gamle-ged on December 03, 2016, 10:02:32 PM
Green Party-backed voters dropped a court case Saturday night that had sought to force a statewide recount of Pennsylvania’s Nov. 8 presidential election, won by Republican Donald Trump, in what Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein had framed as an effort to explore whether voting machines and systems had been hacked and the election result manipulated.
While changing the election result was always believed to be very unlikely (even by Hillary Clinton’s own campaign), the only path to changing the outcome involved recounts in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan swinging to Clinton. By dropping the Pennsylvania case, recounts in Michigan and Wisconsin will have no change on the end result of the election.
The Pennsylvania GOP confirmed the recount had been dropped in a statement. In the statement, the Pennsylvania GOP charged that the recount effort “clearly has no chance of changing the results and that it was done for media attention.â€
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/green-party-jill-stein-drops-pennsylvania-recount-bid/
It's now impossible to deny Trump his 270+ electoral votes by the counting date...
Post by: Karin on December 03, 2016, 10:11:25 PM
Post by: RWKindaGuy on December 03, 2016, 10:45:53 PM
And still there were DUmmies continuing to send their Recountmas money to Jill. Or so they say of course. :lmao:
As I read some of the threads, they STILL are giving her money. The STUPID is strong in some of them. !!!
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on December 04, 2016, 02:27:15 AM
So sad!!!
Pennsylvania shuts recount down as Stein campaign is short on initial payment.
Good news, Pennsylvania's voters won't be disenfranchised (& isn't that super duper important to the left?) like the voters in Wisconsin.
It's amazing how those "deeply held" convictions suddenly seem so trivial when they don't go their way. :whistling:
Post by: Carl on December 04, 2016, 05:11:30 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512641157
Post by: Carl on December 04, 2016, 05:47:10 AM
Apparently the Occam's Razor explanation that the notoriously-corrupt Philadelphia government - having failed to crank out enough fake votes on the first pass to tip the state - might now be taking advantage of the opportunity to stuff in a bunch more.
Which is what the primitives are counting on.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512641704
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Sun Dec 4, 2016, 05:54 AM
Star Member ucrdem (10,825 posts)
Reuters: Stein to pursue Pennsylvania recount petition in federal court
Green Party candidate Jill Stein late Saturday vowed to bring her fight for a recount of votes cast in Pennsylvania in the U.S. presidential election to federal court, after a state judge ordered her campaign to post a $1 million bond.
{snip}
“The judge’s outrageous demand that voters pay such an exorbitant figure is a shameful, unacceptable barrier to democratic participation,†Stein said in a statement. "No voter in America should be forced to pay thousands of dollars to know if her or his vote was counted."
Stein said she planned to announce "the next step" in the recount effort on Monday at a previously scheduled news conference at Trump Tower in New York City.
She said recounts already under way in some Pennsylvania counties would continue. The state's election commission had approved recounts in 75 precincts where voters requested one, but refused to allow a full forensic audit of voting machines.
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Response to Cha (Reply #1)
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 06:10 AM
Star Member ucrdem (10,825 posts)
2. thanks Cha!
Yes, and there are likely enough provisional and early votes stashed in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee to put her over in all three states, so that's probably the best strategy, but this federal suit appears to be the other half of the "Stein dropping PA recount" story that's been all over the Googlesphere for a day...
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on December 04, 2016, 06:05:14 AM
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BigBearJohn (9,938 posts)
No, the Pennsylvania recount effort isnt over. Yes, the mainstream media is lying to you.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028330080
The source? Why it's:
SOURCE: http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/no-pennsylvania-recount-effort-isnt-yes-mainstream-media-lying/359/
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
3 whole replies..... best one:
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oberliner (41,172 posts)
3. The Palmer Report?
This is not a source.
Lucy needs a few more footballs.
Post by: Doc Savage on December 04, 2016, 08:54:25 AM
Nothing yet. But I eagerly look forward to them, Doc!
He does have a FB page for his blog. I visited and wrote my feelings.
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=palmer%20report
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 04, 2016, 09:35:09 AM
He does have a FB page for his blog. I visited and wrote my feelings.Gotcha. Didn't check there. I see he has a "massive" following on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=palmer%20report
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 04, 2016, 09:35:50 AM
....and another thread:This is Fitzmas all over again!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028330080
The source? Why it's:
SOURCE: http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/no-pennsylvania-recount-effort-isnt-yes-mainstream-media-lying/359/
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
3 whole replies..... best one:
Lucy needs a few more footballs.
Post by: Tess Anderson on December 04, 2016, 07:40:53 PM
One question first, though -TruthisAll= Coyotl = Richard Charnin, correct?
https://www.facebook.com/thebillpalmer
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12191670_10156172984700175_3372969039650820949_n.jpg?oh=01a8fe5a9f96571984edfda58171d801&oe=58C6156E)
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14079790_10157295322115175_4582549149025517589_n.jpg?oh=61558390611eb7d89ea0d429afe9dff4&oe=58BA0EFE)
:mental:
Post by: freedumb2003b on December 04, 2016, 07:42:30 PM
Every day is Christmas!
WINmas! It comes after Trumpsgiving!
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 04, 2016, 07:50:19 PM
Bill Palmer, the "founder" of the Daily New Bin and now the Palmer Report, all fake news.Not certain. I guess I thought Richard Charnin is a much older guy.
One question first, though -TruthisAll= Coyotl = Richard Charnin, correct?
https://www.facebook.com/thebillpalmer
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12191670_10156172984700175_3372969039650820949_n.jpg?oh=01a8fe5a9f96571984edfda58171d801&oe=58C6156E)
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14079790_10157295322115175_4582549149025517589_n.jpg?oh=61558390611eb7d89ea0d429afe9dff4&oe=58BA0EFE)
:mental:
Post by: Tess Anderson on December 04, 2016, 09:13:34 PM
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Richard Charnin The Election Model indicates that Trump won nationally by 49-45% ( 5 million votes). https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/.../election-model.../
Charnin is older than Bill Palmer's father in Florida.
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 04, 2016, 09:41:18 PM
Recountmas 2016
Time to bring out the Recountmas Tree.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 04, 2016, 09:59:43 PM
No, I didn't mean that Palmer was Charnin - Bill is just another blog whore who can't accept the fact that Trump won. What I've wondered for some time was if DUmmy "Coyotl" was TruthisAll/Charnin. Charnin thinks Trump actually won:Gotcha. SR over at CU (and here as well) often refers to Coyote as TIA. Probably others do too.
Charnin is older than Bill Palmer's father in Florida.
Post by: Carl on December 05, 2016, 05:47:25 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512643527
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Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:46 PM
Star Member Farmgirl1961 (969 posts)
New Post on Palmer Report...Wisconsin (another update on Waukesha County)
New post on Palmer Report
Wisconsin recount: Waukesha County officials caught illegally hiding ballots from observers
by Bill Palmer
Four days into the Wisconsin statewide recount, one county in particular has emerged as the epicenter of controversy and corruption. Donald Trump won Waukesha County by a total of 66,320 votes, a margin three times as large as he won Wisconsin by overall. The county is refusing to do a hand recount, instead relying on the same machines which produced the original totals. Earlier today we reported that one recount observer had outright accused Waukesha officials of double-counting Trump's votes. And now Jill Stein is expanding on the Waukesha scandal.
Jill Stein, the third party candidate who initiated the recount effort in Wisconsin and two other states, sent out the following message to her recount observers. Palmer Report has obtained a verified copy of the email in question. In it, Stein formally accuses Waukesha County officials of violating the law by purposely hiding ballots from the observers:
While most counties are conducting their recounts in clear and transparent fashion, we have gotten reports of observers not being allowed near the recount tables or not being allowed to view the ballots. For instance, in Waukesha County, officials are entering the ballots in to the machine face down. Remember, we have a legal right to see the ballots.
Wisconsin law reads in part: Each party to a recount must be given an opportunity to object and provide offers of evidence on: the procedures followed, any ballot cast at the election, any other issues presented to the board of canvassers during the recount.
Notably, Waukesha County is just one of twelve Wisconsin counties, out of seventy-two counties overall, which are refusing to a hand recount. The increasing level of fraud and illegal activity on the part of Waukesha recount observers may give Stein sufficient cause to convince the judge in question to order the county to do a hand recount.
Which of course sends them into a lathered up frenzy.
A few though still have some element of critical thinking.
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Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:27 AM
Aimee in OKC (38 posts)
15. Perhaps a bit of 'caveat lector', until his sources check out ...
A lot of what he blogs on is 'good news' we'd all want to get.
We just have to be cautious, since the plague of 'fake news' is rampant on the right-wing side, but by no means confined there.
An opinion from a paralegal=
http://www.jensalittleloopy.com/palmer-report-not-credible-source/
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Response to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:30 AM
VisceralM (2 posts)
8. Palmer Report...again.
This is starting to look like fantasy. Almost all of these reports are coming from one blog and not being reported anywhere else. We criticize the republicans for fake news and not having the common sense to sort out fact from fiction and yet everyone descends on anything this guy reports on like it's *real* news. Hardly anyone else is reporting this..and it's not because of a conspiracy.
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Response to VisceralM (Reply #8)
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:31 AM
Star Member LovingA2andMI (2,764 posts)
13. The Palmer Report Is...
Putting out fake news on WAY TOO MANY Progressive/Liberal Blogs/Forums and Sites on Facebook/The Web/Google + and ANYWHERE else they can receive a page view.
Earlier, in a Progressive Group we administrate on Facebook, guess what link magically appears there? You guess it, the "Palmer Report" from a person that had only posted in the group ONCE. We deleted the post and informed our Group Members we will NOT accept postings from the "Palmer Report" or "Daily News Bin". In other words, only legitimate, non-click bait and verifiable resources are accepted in the group.
If folks on the left think that fake or click-bait "news" only is a Right-Wing issue, they better wake up quick and smell the coffee. It's both sides and everywhere.
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Response to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 06:11 AM
oberliner (41,179 posts)
24. "Palmer Report" is just a pro - Jill Stein/Green Party blogger
Who has no problem making stuff up.
That is the extent of it though.
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on December 05, 2016, 08:21:45 AM
Florida too now. :rotf:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512641157
From that thread:
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KewlKat (2,561 posts)Times must be tough. They are only begging for just $1 more instead of $10.
8. I know many of us are financially tapped out with all the fundraising to fight the election results
but if you have a dollar to spare, you might throw it in this pot.
They currently have $63,000 but I'm sure they'll need more for legal fees.
https://protectourelections.nationbuilder.com/florida_recount
Here is a link to the "Complaint" if you care to read it.
http://www.protectourelections.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Complaint.pdf