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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: ChuckJ on December 02, 2016, 07:45:10 PM
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Well, it's interesting to me anyway. It just dawned on me today that in real life I've yet to personally meet a single person that has vocalized a problem with Trump winning the election. With my job I travel a several county area and meet people from all walks of life. I meet people of all races, religions, and wealth status. As a rule, I don't bring up politics, but the people I meet sometimes do. The ones that have brought it up are happy. I suppose that the ones that have not brought it up either are happy or are not dissatisfied enough to bring it up.
I was sure that by now I'd have at least met one anti-Trumper who would give me enough seeds to grow a Bouncy. Maybe the DUmp and their kind are even less significant than I thought.
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Maybe the DUmp and their kind are even less significant than I thought.
I think that's ^^^ it.
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Well, it's interesting to me anyway. It just dawned on me today that in real life I've yet to personally meet a single person that has vocalized a problem with Trump winning the election. With my job I travel a several county area and meet people from all walks of life. I meet people of all races, religions, and wealth status. As a rule, I don't bring up politics, but the people I meet sometimes do. The ones that have brought it up are happy. I suppose that the ones that have not brought it up either are happy or are not dissatisfied enough to bring it up.
I was sure that by now I'd have at least met one anti-Trumper who would give me enough seeds to grow a Bouncy. Maybe the DUmp and their kind are even less significant than I thought.
I don't travel near that much, but ....same here. None. I have tried to, offhandedly, elicit a reaction from random people (without going all (D)Ummie of course), but no takers. The reactions were ALL: "you got that right" or "Boy, am I ever (relieved)". The mood here in Free Illinois is MARKEDLY more upbeat.
Maybe the DUmp and their kind are even less significant than I thought.
Agree with you and Coach. I think so. They're even more of an aberration than we thought.
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I have only met one. This person has been in their Downfall bunker ever since the night of the election.
Cracking and making sarcastic remarks at highly inappropriate times during meetings, etc, and carrying around a weapons-grade level of Eeyore everywhere they go.
Frankly, the rest of us think it's hilarious.
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I suppose it depends upon how you define "a problem." If you were to press me on it, I would say that I have "a problem" with Trump winning, but that's because I simply don't trust the guy and because he's not a conservative in even the most remote sense. I consider it a miracle that he managed to eke out a victory; a decisive victory, to be sure, but not a landslide by any reasonable definition. Reagan got landslides (49 states); Nixon got landslides. Trump got a decisive win, but not a landslide.
What's important, though, is that decisive win was an earthquake. It stunned the Left like pretty much nothing ever before. Hell, it stunned me. I went into election night fully expecting a pretty serious drubbing. That he wound up spanking Hillary was quite surprising to me. He has a mandate; the question is whether he'll actually use the mandate that he got instead of just doing whatever the hell he wants. I suspect that it's the latter, not the former.
Trump has proven quite conclusively that he will lie with no compunction whatsoever. The guy whose supporters literally jeered Heidi Cruz for being involved with Goldman-Sachs has just hired ... a guy from Goldman-Sachs. The list is never-ending.
So I'm going to view Trump with suspicion unless and until he manages to prove to me that he has managed to rise above suspicion, and that doesn't look like it's going to happen. There's going to be no "honeymoon" with Trump; the Left has already demonstrated that, and his face-slap to the actual conservatives who bucked up to back him and put him over the top isn't going to help.
But he thoroughly proved me quite wrong in the election, so I'm definitely reserving judgment and giving him a chance as much as I can in the meantime. Even though he was not the one I wanted (nor was Hillary; I would have greatly preferred either Austen Peterson or Ted Cruz), though, I'm not about to go turn over a car and set it on fire because I'm unhappy with the overall results of 2016.
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I have only met one. This person has been in their Downfall bunker ever since the night of the election.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Steiner will come.
Mein Fuhrer, ...... Steiner......
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I suppose it depends upon how you define "a problem." If you were to press me on it, I would say that I have "a problem" with Trump winning, but that's because I simply don't trust the guy and because he's not a conservative in even the most remote sense. I consider it a miracle that he managed to eke out a victory; a decisive victory, to be sure, but not a landslide by any reasonable definition. Reagan got landslides (49 states); Nixon got landslides. Trump got a decisive win, but not a landslide.
What's important, though, is that decisive win was an earthquake. It stunned the Left like pretty much nothing ever before. Hell, it stunned me. I went into election night fully expecting a pretty serious drubbing. That he wound up spanking Hillary was quite surprising to me. He has a mandate; the question is whether he'll actually use the mandate that he got instead of just doing whatever the hell he wants. I suspect that it's the latter, not the former.
Trump has proven quite conclusively that he will lie with no compunction whatsoever. The guy whose supporters literally jeered Heidi Cruz for being involved with Goldman-Sachs has just hired ... a guy from Goldman-Sachs. The list is never-ending.
So I'm going to view Trump with suspicion unless and until he manages to prove to me that he has managed to rise above suspicion, and that doesn't look like it's going to happen. There's going to be no "honeymoon" with Trump; the Left has already demonstrated that, and his face-slap to the actual conservatives who bucked up to back him and put him over the top isn't going to help.
But he thoroughly proved me quite wrong in the election, so I'm definitely reserving judgment and giving him a chance as much as I can in the meantime. Even though he was not the one I wanted (nor was Hillary; I would have greatly preferred either Austen Peterson or Ted Cruz), though, I'm not about to go turn over a car and set it on fire because I'm unhappy with the overall results of 2016.
I was all about Cruz, but he disappointed. What surprised me were the number of Conservative family members that didn't really like him. Conversely, they are all about Trump, for the same reasons I was, once he got the nom. Except my Lib brother (wife influenced) who has been BDS'd forever. He and his spawn are in meltdown. As far as Goldman Sachs goes, what business, at that level, doesn't do business with the mega banks? They all do.
As far as the rest about Trump? We'll have to agree to disagree. Look at his Cabinet picks. Pretty damn solid and a LOT of Conservatives. Good for you to withhold judgement to see how things shake out. That's pretty much all one can ask.
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Most of the people I work with are Asian - especially Chinese/Taiwanese and Vietnamese. Other than one "white" guy and a guy who I think is Indonesian - who were jubilant - I haven't heard many comments about Trump's win. If they're upset or worried about Trump's supposed racism, they sure are quiet about it.
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You know, until today I could have said the same thing.
However, last night I was kidnapped and forced to drive downtown to my wife's company Christmas party where I was held hostage for 7 long hours.
Being one of the few unwashed smokers at this trendy joint who served 4oz portions of filet for the bargain price of 95 dollars, I occasionally went out back by the gas fire pits to have a smoke.
Well, I had the misfortune of having to stand out there with this "guy"....
I really wish now that I had taken a picture just so you could see the stereotypical, overly long dirty (literally) blonde hair, the scraggly attempt at a beard, Kurt Cobain looking, feminine liberal.
At first, I couldn't figure out how this guy had managed to gain entrance into the type of establishment we were at. I mean, he was a filthy hippie and I know full well he didn't have the money to be drinking at this place. Then, after listening fora while, I finally figured it out... he was just wandering the streets with a couple of friends and they had stopped by the outside patio because of the pit fires, to hang out and warm up a little.
If you could have heard this, it would have made you stand there and laugh to yourself as it did me.
He was talking to some girl who was with him... about Trump being hitler, how all of the lovely illegal friends he had were going to get deported, how those people worked harder than anyone else he knew. I got to hear how he liked them more than any of his American friends, how it was unfair to treat them inhumanely... frankly, it sounded like he had written half of the rants on the DUmp.
The feminine voice carried on out there for several hours. I would come back outside every couple of hours to have a smoke, and he was still there... most of the night. The whining covered the entire spectrum of twisted logic we read on the DUmp.
Not in the mood for high-volume, hateful screeching, I ignored him and casually listened to this on and off when I was out there, all without saying a word. I was too busy basking in the liberal failure to be interested in breaking his stride.
I wish I could tell you that a cop jumped out of the bushes, I gave him a speech that changed his mind and permanently converted him to conservatism, and that he was so happy about me enlightening him that he cried and hugged me while everyone cheered and clapped. But, it didn't happen.
I guess I don't normally hear this because I don't hang around with misguided millennials, and I don't plan on making it a habit either.
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I have friends who voted for Trump, and I have friends who voted for Clinton. The only Clinton voter that personally know of that has had a difficult time is the wife of my neighbor. I spoke to him a few days after the election, and he said that his wife was so upset that she was unable to leave the house or talk to anyone for a week (wouldn't surprise me if she is a denizen of the DUmp, she's that type of primitive). Other than that particular person, everyone I know is just getting along with their lives, going to work, preparing for the holidays etc.
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I suppose it depends upon how you define "a problem." If you were to press me on it, I would say that I have "a problem" with Trump winning, but that's because I simply don't trust the guy and because he's not a conservative in even the most remote sense. I consider it a miracle that he managed to eke out a victory; a decisive victory, to be sure, but not a landslide by any reasonable definition. Reagan got landslides (49 states); Nixon got landslides. Trump got a decisive win, but not a landslide.
What's important, though, is that decisive win was an earthquake. It stunned the Left like pretty much nothing ever before. Hell, it stunned me. I went into election night fully expecting a pretty serious drubbing. That he wound up spanking Hillary was quite surprising to me. He has a mandate; the question is whether he'll actually use the mandate that he got instead of just doing whatever the hell he wants. I suspect that it's the latter, not the former.
Trump has proven quite conclusively that he will lie with no compunction whatsoever. The guy whose supporters literally jeered Heidi Cruz for being involved with Goldman-Sachs has just hired ... a guy from Goldman-Sachs. The list is never-ending.
So I'm going to view Trump with suspicion unless and until he manages to prove to me that he has managed to rise above suspicion, and that doesn't look like it's going to happen. There's going to be no "honeymoon" with Trump; the Left has already demonstrated that, and his face-slap to the actual conservatives who bucked up to back him and put him over the top isn't going to help.
But he thoroughly proved me quite wrong in the election, so I'm definitely reserving judgment and giving him a chance as much as I can in the meantime. Even though he was not the one I wanted (nor was Hillary; I would have greatly preferred either Austen Peterson or Ted Cruz), though, I'm not about to go turn over a car and set it on fire because I'm unhappy with the overall results of 2016.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with everything you said.
I, too, and reserving judgement. I also hope and pray he proves my opinion of him wrong. He has made good cabinet choices so far...I'll give him that. Not too sure what qualifies Ben Carson for HUD Secretary, though.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with everything you said.
I, too, and reserving judgement. I also hope and pray he proves my opinion of him wrong. He has made good cabinet choices so far...I'll give him that. Not too sure what qualifies Ben Carson for HUD Secretary, though.
Grew up in the slums I guess? Just happy to see him have a voice
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