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Title: one of Manny's primitives reminds of a troubing truth
Post by: franksolich on November 28, 2016, 12:48:09 AM
http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/lets-get-something-stratight-hillary-did-not-win-the-popular-vote-nationwide/

Oh my.

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FourScore    (243 posts)    November 27, 2016 at 10:34 pm
 
Let's get something stratight – Hillary did NOT win the popular vote NATIONWIDE

She won it in CALIFORNIA.

Let’s do some math. I’ll round the numbers to make it easy.

Hillary is now about 2 million votes ahead of Trump nationwide. HOWEVER, she is about 4 million ahead in California. In other words, if you take away California, Clinton loses the popular by 2 million votes. If you take away CA and NY, she loses by about 3.5 million.

The argument is completely bogus and must be called out. Of course, officially, she won the popular – but ONLY because of California.

Here’s the link to a spreadsheet with all the current numbers:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

While I have very mixed feelings about the Electoral College, I can only imagine how the rest of the country would feel if large, coastal states like CA and NY ultimately decided our elections.

No comments yet.

It's a good solid statement of fact, and like all statements of facts, it cuts both ways.  I myself, I'm not sure what I think about this; on one hand, the majority should rule, yes, but on the other hand.....

One now wonders how far ahead George Bush was in 2000, before the vote from California was tallied.
Title: Re: one of Manny's primitives reminds of a troubing truth
Post by: franksolich on November 28, 2016, 12:53:48 AM
Never mind; I just looked it up.

In 2000, George Bush while winning the presidency ostensibly got 500,000 fewer votes than Alphonse Capote Gore, nationally.

Gore beat surpassed him in California by circa 1,300,000.

Something's got to be done about this, so California doesn't dominate America.

<<<every night before going to bed, gets down on knees and prays to God that the whole state falls off the continental shelf and sinks into the Pacific Ocean.
Title: Re: one of Manny's primitives reminds of a troubing truth
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on November 28, 2016, 02:30:55 AM
Never mind; I just looked it up.

In 2000, George Bush while winning the presidency ostensibly got 500,000 fewer votes than Alphonse Capote Gore, nationally.

Gore beat surpassed him in California by circa 1,300,000.

Something's got to be done about this, so California doesn't dominate America.

<<<every night before going to bed, gets down on knees and prays to God that the whole state falls off the continental shelf and sinks into the Pacific Ocean.

 :cheersmate: 

From what I can discern, the overwhelming majority of that California lead is in 4 counties around and in Silicon Valley.  Surprise, surprise, surprise......   ::)
Title: Re: one of Manny's primitives reminds of a troubing truth
Post by: Carl on November 28, 2016, 04:36:39 AM
The endless yammering about the popular vote is an exercise in idiocy.
Title: Re: one of Manny's primitives reminds of a troubing truth
Post by: Gina on November 28, 2016, 06:38:23 AM
Who's mole is this?  :lmao:
Title: Re: one of Manny's primitives reminds of a troubing truth
Post by: Big Dog on November 28, 2016, 06:54:17 AM
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FourScore   

The argument is completely bogus and must be called out. Of course, officially, she won the popular – but ONLY because of California.

Oh, Jackwagon, you were doing so well until you wrote that part. There's no such thing as an official popular vote.

So close, and yet so far.
Title: Re: one of Manny's primitives reminds of a troubing truth
Post by: USA4ME on November 28, 2016, 07:11:33 AM
Those "eliminate the EC" threads and discussions are worthless. But, if it keeps liberals tied up talking about it instead of screwing up everything, then I'm good.

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Title: Re: one of Manny's primitives reminds of a troubing truth
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 28, 2016, 08:55:06 AM
Never mind; I just looked it up.

In 2000, George Bush while winning the presidency ostensibly got 500,000 fewer votes than Alphonse Capote Gore, nationally.

Gore beat surpassed him in California by circa 1,300,000.

Something's got to be done about this, so California doesn't dominate America.

<<<every night before going to bed, gets down on knees and prays to God that the whole state falls off the continental shelf and sinks into the Pacific Ocean.

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Intended humorously?  I am somewhat puzzled, because that's exactly what the EC system is doing, i.e. the system we currently have in place.
Title: Re: one of Manny's primitives reminds of a troubing truth
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 28, 2016, 10:27:11 AM
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Intended humorously?  I am somewhat puzzled, because that's exactly what the EC system is doing, i.e. the system we currently have in place.

I'm with you, DAT, so . . . Frank very probably meant it as you think.
Title: Re: one of Manny's primitives reminds of a troubing truth
Post by: franksolich on November 28, 2016, 11:28:00 AM
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Intended humorously?  I am somewhat puzzled, because that's exactly what the EC system is doing, i.e. the system we currently have in place.

Sorry, I made that comment late at night.

What I meant was "something's got to be done about California trying to dominate America."

Of course the Electoral College helps, but I suspect we need to have more than just that, to keep the Moonshine State in its place.

<<<longs for the days when New York, not California, was the largest state in the union; things were more normal back then.