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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 27, 2016, 04:21:50 AM
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SHRED (14,621 posts)
The "fly-overs" crying for repeal of the ACA
How many of them have not lost their life savings due to protections the ACA has given them?
How many even realize these protections?
Outlawing the practice of capping (limiting) coverage amounts should you get a catastrophic illness, disease, or accident.
Outlawing denial if coverage due to a pre-existing condition.
Outlawing insurance companies from dropping you should you get sick.
Rust belt, fly over, rural, or whatever you want to call them have some of the most willfully ignorant people in our country.
And not just there either...they are everywhere...the stupid is thick.
2/3 of the country refused to join the boondoggle. Of those that did 3/4 have gone toes up. of those that remain choices have been reduced to 1 or 2 carriers. Of those 1 or 2 carriers policyholders watch each year as the premiums skyrocket.
All as predicted by us but they have the gall to call us stupid.
Duckhunter935 (16,713 posts)
1. They will learn sadly
guillaumeb (7,790 posts)
2. I disagree.
The GOP will find a way to convince these soon to be uninsured people that it is all President Obama's fault.
It is not Obama's fault.
We blame the entirety of the Democratic party.
Which is why your party's power is cratering hard and fast.
OnDoutside (1,949 posts)
8. That's why it's vital for Democrats to be far more vocal.
It's not possible for you tantrum throwing infants to be "more vocal."
Grey Lemercier (906 posts)
14. this is truth
The Fox Blondes will be working overtime to convince the human racist colostomy bags is all Obama's fault.
I think you found your 2018 campaign theme.
LonePirate (5,212 posts)
6. Sometimes children need to learn a painful lesson, like losing their health care
Remember how you guys predicted Trump would lose and if he did win the stock market would crash.
Just like your every prediction about global warming or the prosperity of Venezuela.
sheshe2 (36,582 posts)
25. Yet we pay the price.
I am on ACA.
And what a loss you would be.
sarisataka (7,375 posts)
9. Well obviously I can't
Match the sophistication of a person such as yourself who is from a place that REALLY MATTERS, do take a moment to consider that my fellow peasants have been led astray by a member of the costs aristocracy.
It's not entirely their fault at having been hoodwinked by a rapscalion with cosmopolitan city ways. The unrefined bumpkins needed to have another manor-borne protect them from such deceit. Unfortunately the blackguard's words were unopposed by those flying over...
Freeper gun humper
sarisataka (7,375 posts)
15. While I never underestimate
The stupidity of the average voter, perhaps Democrats should devote some attention to that which is within as well as without.
Some of us cautioned against over optimism. We were assured every poll indicating the election is close was right wing propaganda or the media trying to keep people interested because a Democratic victory was inevitable.
Months ago I made the statement "Never assume victory". I wish my apprehension was less prescient.
Now post election all we here is how the votes were hacked (with zero evidence at this time) and stupid white voters (who we were told are an irrelevant block). The language used to describe the South, Midwest and West (except California of course) sounds like 19th century missionaries talking about the savages they are trying to convert.
No one seems to consider for a moment that the Democratic message failed to reach a wider audience because is couldn't cut through the hubris and arrogance.
Once we were the Party of the working class. Today we call those same people 'ignorant', 'stupid', 'racist' and 'children'. But we are sure they will learn a lesson and return...
SHRED (14,621 posts)
24. Corporate power owns the airwaves
You can't stop people from being brainwashed by it.
Pretty hopeless really as I see it.
Dissect this for a moment...
1. Those rubes will blindly follow anybody
2. They never follow us
Xipe Totec (37,328 posts)
10. And Trump is Lord of the Flyovers. nt
Their arrogance knows no bounds.
doc03 (17,632 posts)
28. They don't even know that Medicare was improved by the ACA
you get a yearly physical and other things like a colonoscopy for no charge. A friend of mine
had a business and paid for his own insurance. He told me him and his wife both got a
colonoscopy a few years ago and had to pay out $5000 because of the high deductibles. Last year
under Obamacare they both had a colonoscopy for free. He is happy it saved him $5000.
And, of course it never dawned on you that other people are paying for that.
The only words coming out of your mouth should be "Thank" and "you" and in that order.
PufPuf23 (5,591 posts)
33. How is that working for you calling people stupid?
Trump is POTUS elect.
There is a GOP majority in the House, Senate, state Governorships, and most State houses.
The Democratic party has lost or willfully marginalized many life long Democratic party members.
There are flaws in ACA and universal health care was never truly "on the table".
There has to be a better way than calling people stupid.
Perhaps educate, pay attention to other's sensitivities and needs, and practice inclusion rather than belittle?
NanceGreggs (21,620 posts)
35. The President who preceded me was SO bad ...
... the voters kept booing him through my entire administration.
Said the people who still blame Bush.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028307544
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doc03 (17,632 posts)
28. They don't even know that Medicare was improved by the ACA
you get a yearly physical and other things like a colonoscopy for no charge. A friend of mine
had a business and paid for his own insurance. He told me him and his wife both got a
colonoscopy a few years ago and had to pay out $5000 because of the high deductibles. Last year
under Obamacare they both had a colonoscopy for free. He is happy it saved him $5000.
Bullshit.
SHRED (14,621 posts)
24. Corporate power owns the airwaves Major (D)Marxist donors.
You can't stop people from being brainwashed by it. *spits coffee* Yeah, let's talk about brainwashing, snowflake.
Pretty hopeless really as I see it. Hopefully more so, very soon.
What ..... attempting Haiku? :o
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Are these the same DU-folk who were whinging and kvetching about the double-digit premium increases for crappy coverage? And about insurance companies pulling out of Oh-Bummer! Care?
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Are these the same DU-folk who were whinging and kvetching about the double-digit premium increases for crappy coverage? And about insurance companies pulling out of Oh-Bummer! Care?
Miraculous transformation, innit? None of them seem to be talking about how the entire system failed because it required everyone at all ages to have as a minimum the sort of coverage that a middle-aged family head with a mid-career job would have, and that the young and invulnerable balked at the cost by the tens of millions.
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It was the ACA that prompted Pittstain to call obozo a piece of shit used car salesman.
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Obozocare could never possibly work in a real world and that was from day one.
It gave some up front free goodies to voting age youth and child bearing age women funded by 3 years of taxes from everyone else.
The fuse burning for states and localities with the medicaid expansion will be devastating when that bomb goes off.
Subsidies are actually welfare no matter how you try to redefine it.
It took all known human nature and threw it on the floor so now you have millions of more covered by that welfare and utilizing it while everyone with employer based insurance pays the tab because the costs are covered by higher premiums but no "subsidy" exists for them.
It is just another government enacted burden that a very small percentage of takers benefit from.
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I think the primitives should try to push for single payer. It went over so well in CO this year, even though Hildabeast carried the state.
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I wanted to refresh my memory on Barry's Life of Julia, but it looks like it's been disappeared.
https://www.barackobama.com/life-of-julia/
Where did it go? How are women supposed to learn about all the wondrous things that the big cradle-to-grave government can do for them?
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The way they behave...reminds me of the teenager.
"You don't agree with me, so you must not understand ." This, you will find underneath layers of "you're racist/you're sexist/you're a misogynist, you're a xenophobe".
The last thing that could ever enter their mind, is that they are wrong.
CMD
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Miraculous transformation, innit? None of them seem to be talking about how the entire system failed because it required everyone at all ages to have as a minimum the sort of coverage that a middle-aged family head with a mid-career job would have, and that the young and invulnerable balked at the cost by the tens of millions.
obamacare was always meant to fail. they just didn't think it would be this fast. they thought hitlary would win and carry on. jugearscare was the door to be opened to single payer.
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doc03 (17,632 posts)
28. They don't even know that Medicare was improved by the ACA
you get a yearly physical and other things like a colonoscopy for no charge. A friend of mine
had a business and paid for his own insurance. He told me him and his wife both got a
colonoscopy a few years ago and had to pay out $5000 because of the high deductibles. Last year
under Obamacare they both had a colonoscopy for free. He is happy it saved him $5000.
Nevermind that his premiums went up by $10,000. By gum, that $5000 colonoscopy is free!
Idiot.