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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 14, 2016, 09:32:53 PM
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http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/join-bernie-sanders-and-support-keith-ellison-for-dnc-chair-2/
Geezuz gawd.
Is this always their solution to whenever they have a loss?--to go even further extremist fringe?
They lost because they were already too extreme, and by being even more extreme, they expect to win?
For some reason, copying-and-pasting from Manny's message board isn't working; I dunno why.
But anyway, the post is about the old sourassed sourpuss endorsing the extremist fanatic congressman Keith Ellison (D-Minnesota) for head of the Democrat party.
At the same time, there's an original post about "extreme militant John Bolton" possibly being named Secretary of State. If John Bolton, who's actually moderate, is an extreme militant, franksolich is a Chinaman.
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They are getting an influx of primitives who can't get onto DU. If JPR can maintain itself as a place for progressives to organize, they'll remain small and not influential, but they'll stay afloat as a pol site. However, if they become like Skins island, just a place to go and complain about those Republicans/conservatives, then they'll die out like Skins island has over the years.
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http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/join-bernie-sanders-and-support-keith-ellison-for-dnc-chair-2/
Never go full retard, Jackwagons.
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Never go full retard, Jackwagons.
That ship has sailed (and probably subsequently wrecked somewhere).
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That ship has sailed (and probably subsequently wrecked somewhere).
"That ship" was torpedoed by a Trump U-boat just outside the 'safe zone' . . . :whistling:
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Never go full retard, Jackwagons.
When reading Skins's primitives, the first thing that comes to mind is "dumb, dumb, dumb....."
When reading Manny's primitives, the first thing that comes to mind is "dumber, dumber, dumber....."
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At the same time, there's an original post about "extreme militant John Bolton" possibly being named Secretary of State. If John Bolton, who's actually moderate, is an extreme militant, franksolich is a Chinaman.
According to AP on the way in this morning Rudy Giuliani is getting the nod for Secretary of State :fuelfire:
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The jackasses are an interesting bunch in a way.
Unlike the DUmp monkeys,who are forced to live in a thought controlled world which leads to the most hysterical being the most noticeable,Manns bunch have a thought process.
Where it goes off the tracks is that no matter how long and hard they stare at the truth they still have to morph it fit their universe.
http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/trump-won-because-clinton-her-supporters-refused-to-live-in-the-real-world/
TM99 (4077 posts)
November 14, 2016 at 1:24 am
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Trump won because Clinton & her supporters refused to live in the real world
Liberals for Clinton spent this election doing three things that were entirely counter-productive and which now they should regret.
First, they ran a campaign which based itself less on issues and more on the fact that Trump doesn’t appear to be a very nice person. Now, while this may be true and even seemed like a logical strategy at times (during p*ssy-grabbing-gate, for example), ultimately it’s not how you win over or inspire people.
Second, instead of debating and engaging with people, a huge chunk of Hillary supporters decided anyone who didn’t agree with them was a racist, sexist, uneducated waste of oxygen. In fact, their own candidate even appeared to back them up in this line of thinking by calling Trump supporters “deplorables.†Instead of sucking it up and realizing that their Trump friends had the right to an opinion – and were not necessarily racist and sexist – these overly sensitive souls ran off to their “safe spaces†where differing opinions couldn’t reach them. This led to a lot of unfriending on Facebook, and probably a significant chunk of secret Trump voters who came out only in the privacy of the voting booth. As such, the polls that Clinton relied on to read the country’s mood were almost all wrong. The refusal to acknowledge Trump supporters as human beings with their own, perhaps legitimate, reasons for favoring him was a major failure of the Clinton camp. This is much the same thing that happened in the UK with the Brexit vote.
Third, they played the blame game in a way that really backfired “big-league,†as Trump would say. If Trump’s support had to be acknowledged, it must be blamed on anyone but Clinton or the status quo of American politics which she was trying to protect. Their favorite strategy in this regard was to blame Russia. This was odd because most Americans probably don’t give a flying toss about Russia, but Vladimir Putin became the “secret mastermind†behind Trump’s successes, not the fact that millions of ordinary Americans were hurting and feeling left behind and ignored by decades of policies which never seemed to take them into account.
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/366763-trump-clinton-supporters-election-won/
Excellent analysis and assessment. Will they listen is the question. I doubt it.
bjo59 (2969 posts) (Reply to original post) November 14, 2016 at 1:52 am
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1. Really great analysis. Thanks for flagging this article.
I find myself thinking about the following a lot (and have throughout the election), it really makes my stomach churn. I don’t think I’ve ever had a conversation with anyone in person who expresses any real outrage, or even more than the slightest bit of interest really, over what what the US under Obama has done to unimaginable numbers of people in Libya and Syria (and Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and on and on). This quote about the nice man with the pretty family really got to me:
If you asked these liberal anti-Trump protesters why they weren’t out protesting Obama’s drone war, or his funding of terrorists in Syria, or Hillary’s hand in the destruction of Libya, they’d barely know what you’re talking about – which brings us finally to the media and its role in all of this.
Liberals weren’t bothered by most of these things because the media told them not to be. Bombings under Obama were humanitarian airstrikes. The mainstream media made anti-war liberals fine with war because a nice man with a pretty family was dropping the bombs.
Demeter (5138 posts) (Reply to original post) November 14, 2016 at 4:21 am
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4. I'm really down on "political correctness"
because it ignores both reality, and the people who are suffering in that reality.
Political Correctness posits that if we all just “talked correctly†all the world’s problems would disappear. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Political correctness is an exercise in turd-polishing, when it completely avoids all discussion of remedies for real problems and real pain.
And political correctness has almost nothing to do with civility. Civility is the way to go.
TM99 (4077 posts) (Reply to Demeter - post #4) November 14, 2016 at 4:43 am
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6. My father was an English
& linguistics professor for almost 40 years.
When political correctness started to rear its ugly head, he said it was akin to Newspeak in 1984. It would stifle communication. It would literally lead to thought policing. And worst of all for him, great works by Shakespeare, Chaucer, Faulkner, and Joyce would never be allowed to be written under such conditions.
Civility engages empathy. Political correctness engages authoritarian control.
All this came from your side of the aisle.
TRex (221 posts) (Reply to original post) November 14, 2016 at 8:28 pm
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31. Was it in the end, republican vs. republican lite?
Since we can talk about this now.
With that they are off with the not left enough after admitting her problems were rooted in the leftist playbook.
It is a psychosis of some kind.
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How can I donate or support Keith Ellison for DNC Chair?
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Keep in mind that to Bernie supporters Hillary didn't lose because she was a lying crook. She lost because she wasn't progressive enough.
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"That ship" was torpedoed by a Trump U-boat just outside the 'safe zone' . . . :whistling:
I was thinking it ran aground on an endangered coral reef or something.