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Title: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: franksolich on November 12, 2016, 02:33:30 AM
Damn.

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Obama's Legacy: The Total Destruction Of The Democratic Party

A day after the election, CNN’s Amanda Carpenter aptly noted that while the rest of the Democratic Party’s confidence that their Obama coalition could bring about consistent wins in national elections, Republicans were eating Democrats alive up and down the ballot.

“Who thought Obama’s legacy would be the destruction of the Democratic Party,” she said after President-elect Donald J. Trump’s upset win over Clinton.....

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.....I was worried that Trump would be an albatross around the GOP’s necks. It could put the House in play, we could lose the Senate, and we might lose the presidency. I was wrong.

.....Democrats just needed five seats (technically four with a Clinton win) to retake the Senate. GOP incumbents were defending their seats in states where Obama won in 2012. It was a tall climb.

In the end, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) survived a daunting re-elect challenge, facing his former rival Russ Feingold. In North Carolina, Sen. Richard Burr was able to hold off a strong challenge from Deborah Ross. And Pat Toomey won vital Bucks County to clinch another six-year term in Pennsylvania. Rep. Todd Young (R-IN) was able to prevent former Sen. Evan Bayh from reclaiming his former seat in the Hoosier State. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) handily defeated Rep. Patrick Murphy. Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio, another race thought to have been competitive and a possible pick-up for Democrats, easily beat former Gov. Ted Strickland.....

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.....The House was an even taller order for Democrats and it was pretty clear a month from Election Day that the lower chamber would remain in Republican hands.....So far, Democrats only gained five seats in the House and two in the Senate. Seven seats total! That’s it! Concerning the Senate, the GOP has a 51-48 majority, though the Louisiana Senate runoff will be between two Republicans, so it’ll be 52 seats before the 115th Congress is sworn in the following year.....

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.....What happened at the state and local level?.....Democrats control the fewest number of state legislatures in history.....which included the fall of the last southern bastion of power for Democrats: the Kentucky State House. These elections are important since they form the pool for which the party can pick new national leaders. They also draw the congressional districts that determine control of Congress......

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.....Republicans have flipped three new chamber majorities and brought the deep-blue Connecticut Senate to a split chamber, depriving Democrats of that outright majority. We currently remain at 69 of 99 legislative chamber majorities – an all time record for the party.....

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.....As the Democratic Party enters a long, lonely road out of power, it should be a lesson and a warning to Republicans. Never build a party apparatus and voter coalition so firmly behind a single, term-limited president. It’s dubious as to whether a successor can keep that winning coalition in place. For Clinton, she failed. In the end, Trump was expected to torpedo GOP gains; that didn't happen. And Barack Obama will have to watch hopelessly as congressional Republicans–now working with a Trump White House–will undo most of his signature domestic achievements.

Thank God.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/11/obamas-legacy-the-total-destruction-of-the-democratic-party-n2244680

I was aware Tuesday's elections were pretty big, but like the bride on her wedding night, I wasn't aware it was that big.  (More bigness at the link above.)

Too bad for the primitives.  But they've got only themselves to blame.
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: Carl on November 12, 2016, 04:24:41 AM
Yet they are convinced that they are vastly in the majority.
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: franksolich on November 12, 2016, 04:32:08 AM
Yet they are convinced that they are vastly in the majority.

The more I see the numbers, the more I get blown away.

The danger is though, their strength is understated in the voting totals, as not all freeloaders, ne'er-do-wells, deviants, sociopaths, and miscreants vote. 

So one has to be careful when gauging the strength of decent and civilized people; we're pretty numerous, but not as overwhelming as the vote totals might indicate.
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: Carl on November 12, 2016, 04:53:46 AM
The more I see the numbers, the more I get blown away.

The danger is though, their strength is understated in the voting totals, as not all freeloaders, ne'er-do-wells, deviants, sociopaths, and miscreants vote. 

So one has to be careful when gauging the strength of decent and civilized people; we're pretty numerous, but not as overwhelming as the vote totals might indicate.

It is almost entirely a rural/urban divide.
We have all seen the map where the country is a sea of red with easily defined blue dots of cities sparsely mixed in.
So by population it is nearly an even divide.

Where the problems for the left come in is that perhaps at one time they did care about the ideas of the common man out in the country but over the last 50 years they have lost that.
Now they view people outside a city as the countrys equivalent to the slow kids class those my age remember from school.
That is why after an election defeat they stand in astonishment as to what and why it happened.
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: franksolich on November 12, 2016, 05:02:24 AM

Another thing that makes me snort with derision is whenever the primitives bring up the matter of changing demographics, as if that's something that works against decent and civilized people.

Demographics are always evolving, but so too are the composition of those demographics.

A group currently "liberal," Latinos for example, could evolve into "conservative" over time--and in the example cited, it probably will.

This is reminiscent of Nikita Khrushchev's claim, when trying to ease the qualms of his fellow socialists fearful that religion still had a hold on the people--"it's nothing to worry about, because they're all old women, and destined to die off soon anyway."

Well, all those old women kept on dying, and religion under socialism kept on growing.....to where, when the Soviet Union fell apart in 1991, it was discovered there were more religious believers (% of population) than there had been in 1917, before the revolution.

Too bad for the primitives; people die, but principles and standards don't.
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: Mary Ann on November 12, 2016, 05:13:32 AM
Where the problems for the left come in is that perhaps at one time they did care about the ideas of the common man out in the country but over the last 50 years they have lost that.
Now they view people outside a city as the countrys equivalent to the slow kids class those my age remember from school.
That is why after an election defeat they stand in astonishment as to what and why it happened.
What they have failed to realize is that while there are people out here seriously worried about maintaining a standard of living that we have always taken for granted--good jobs, home ownership, retirement--the Democratic Party has concentrated on stupid issues, like allowing mentally ill boys access to girls' locker rooms. They have overlooked the vast majority of the population in order to advance the agenda of .3% of the population. And they think that's how you win elections???
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 12, 2016, 06:06:58 AM
What they have failed to realize is that while there are people out here seriously worried about maintaining a standard of living that we have always taken for granted--good jobs, home ownership, retirement--the Democratic Party has concentrated on stupid issues, like allowing mentally ill boys access to girls' locker rooms. They have overlooked the vast majority of the population in order to advance the agenda of .3% of the population. And they think that's how you win elections???

If you force the change on them, then browbeat and embarrass them until they accept . . . It's the Democrat(ic) Way! :hammer: :whistling:
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: Carl on November 12, 2016, 06:17:48 AM
If you force the change on them, then browbeat and embarrass them until they accept . . . It's the Democrat(ic) Way! :hammer: :whistling:

Exactly,the playbook is neither long or complicated.
Create a group,tell them they are victims and oppressed,promise them reparations of some form and then demonize all that disagree as their oppressors.
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: SVPete on November 12, 2016, 08:58:56 AM
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In the end, Trump was expected to torpedo GOP gains; that didn't happen.

I had a little FB "exchange", the week before the election, with a Never-Trumper who posited the conspiracy theory that Trump was running to lose and to make sure the Rs would never again win the Presidency. Out of respect for his wife, with whom I'm a cyber-friend, I've refrained from necro'ing that FB thread in order to say, "I told you so."

Where the problems for the left come in is that perhaps at one time they did care about the ideas of the common man out in the country but over the last 50 years they have lost that.
Now they view people outside a city as the countrys equivalent to the slow kids class those my age remember from school.
That is why after an election defeat they stand in astonishment as to what and why it happened.

The Ds have spent the last 40-50 years crapping on the normal citizens of this country, embracing the Enviros, embracing the craziest of feminazis, and embracing academia and its contempt for the normal people who feed, clothe, and house them. The remarkable thing, to me, is how little payback the Ds have gotten the past 35+ years.
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: miskie on November 12, 2016, 09:19:23 AM
This video is making the rounds on Facebook - done by "Jonathan Pie" - a satirical character/news reporter by British comedian Tom Walker, this is his take on why Trump won - and its pretty much correct.

I find it somewhat sad that the most honest take on what happened in the United States is by a leftist British comedian. You DUmmies are to blame. Video contains NSFW language, you have been warned.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs[/youtube]
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: Maverick1987 on November 12, 2016, 09:39:31 AM
Exactly,the playbook is neither long or complicated.
Create a group,tell them they are victims and oppressed,promise them reparations of some form and then demonize all that disagree as their oppressors.

There's one more step...said group MUST be celebrated along the way
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: SVPete on November 12, 2016, 09:42:21 AM
This video is making the rounds on Facebook - done by "Jonathan Pie" - a satirical character/news reporter by British comedian Tom Walker, this is his take on why Trump won - and its pretty much correct.

I find it somewhat sad that the most honest take on what happened in the United States is by a leftist British comedian. You DUmmies are to blame. Video contains NSFW language, you have been warned.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs[/youtube]

I posted the article about Michael Moore being a voice of reason - on one brief point - on FB last night. No responses so far. I just added that You Tube vid to that post. My trolling may not get any responses, but I know about moths and flames.
Title: Re: what the primitives lost.....and it's their own fault
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on November 12, 2016, 11:42:28 AM
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.....What happened at the state and local level?.....Democrats control the fewest number of state legislatures in history.....which included the fall of the last southern bastion of power for Democrats: the Kentucky State House. These elections are important since they form the pool for which the party can pick new national leaders. They also draw the congressional districts that determine control of Congress......

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.....Republicans have flipped three new chamber majorities and brought the deep-blue Connecticut Senate to a split chamber, depriving Democrats of that outright majority. We currently remain at 69 of 99 legislative chamber majorities – an all time record for the party.....

State and Local.  We have said this, repeatedly, over the last eight years.  It took.

But, the Tea Party's dead ............   :whistling: