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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 05, 2008, 06:20:50 AM
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Oh my.
LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 05:57 PM
Original message
I don't feel welcome here
I've been around here for years and it just never stops. Virtually every foul Republican is referred to as "gay". It happens over and over. It's against the rules and the mods do try, but it never ends. Why?
They say that doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result is the definition of insanity so I don't know why I keep expecting it to change.
I don't know what to do, but I don't like how DU makes me feel.
It's a very big bonfire, as the primitives boast of their virtue.
Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 05:58 PM
Response to Original message
1. I never call anyone gay
At least, not as an epithet.
If something is ****ed up I simply say ****ed up.
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
3. That's a new one on me
I've never seen any posts that referred to Republicans as gay, unless, of course, they were.
If you are uncomfortable coming to this site, I sure wouldn't blame you for ditching it.
Now, throughout the whole bonfire, some primitives challenge the allegation, demanding proof, and other primitives provide the proof, in links to other bonfires on Skins's island. There's a lot of those, and way too many to copy-and-paste over here.
Before getting into this particular exchange, franksolich has to remind everyone that contrary to popular internet rumor, the cboy4 primitive, the primitive whom the grazing primitive (the rich kid "jgraz" primitive) mocks and derides, is NOT franksolich's mole on Skins's island.
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
4. Just click the "X" at the top right corner if you don't like how it makes you feel...
It's really just that simple....
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 02:19 AM
Response to Reply #4
110. What a bullshit response.
What's wrong with you?
Would you say the same thing if African Americans were complaining about DUers using the N word too much?
You'd say, oh there, there....just click the X, it's really that simple.
Please.
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 03:07 AM
Response to Reply #110
113. Thanks for labeling your post before I opened it...
What's wrong with me? There's nothing wrong with me, what's wrong with you? If *I* don't "feel welcome" somewhere, I leave and don't go back... I don't whine about it to anyone and everyone who'll listen. It's called "being a grownup"... try it some time, ok?
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 03:20 AM
Response to Reply #113
114. OMFG. Yea, well it's very clear you're not a member of a minority group with your bullshit insensitive attitude.
Are you kidding me? If you don't feel welcome somewhere, you leave and don't go back?
If gay people don't feel welcome at school or at work or in their town ... they should just leave and not come back?
If a black person doesn't feel comfortable at a restaurant because they're not getting the same level of service as white people, they should just leave and don't go back.
Do you think the civil rights movement is based on running away?
No, it's based on confrontation and activism and certainly not running away.
You need to grow up.
And you might start that process by ditching some of your bigotry, since you actually think minorities complaining about being treated like shit is whining.
Why you sound exactly like a right wing fundamentalist christian republican. Don't you Ghost?
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 04:38 AM
Response to Reply #114
115. I'm gonna tell you something ONE TIME, little boy, and you'd better pay attention...
Don't you ever, and I mean *EVER* call me a republican or a christian again, do you understand me, boy? If you ever grew the cojones to say that to my face, I'd knock your ****ing teeth down the back of your throat, then crush your ****ing nuts just for fun. I'm not the nicest guy in the world, nor have I ever claimed to be... learn who you're lipping off to, boy.....
This is a *******ed message board on the ****ing internet, NOT a restaurant, school or anything else. If you don't like things being said, or you don't feel welcome, click the big ****ing "X" at the top right corner and be done with it. Period.
"No, it's based on confrontation and activism and certainly not running away."
I'd say you need to take it up with the administrators of this site, then... wouldn't you? You're pretty ****ing arrogant if you think the whole world needs to change just to accomodate YOU...
Get the **** over yourself, son... you're not that ****ing important in the whole scheme of life... or even on an anonymous internet message board. Neither am I, for that matter... we're ALL no more than just tiny grains of sand in a great big desert when it all boils down...
Do you think maybe *I* should whine and snot the next time someone posts something about "fat pasty white men"?
If you don't ever want to be offended in life, turn your ****ing computer off, crawl under your blankets and don't ever leave your house again, ok?
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 05:00 AM
Response to Reply #115
116. Oh I'll call you any goddam thing I feel like calling you son.
And if I decide you sound like a radical right wing fundamentalist christian conservative republican with your bigoted racist views, then that's what you're going to get called.
You have zero say in the matter.
Despite your embarrassing threats.
Other primitive quotes, from primitives of prominence:
sfexpat2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
6. People learn over time. In between, there are outbreaks of stupidity.
I'm sorry, LeftCoast.
CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
7. My dear LeftCoast...
I would never do that...
I am so sorry, sweetie...
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:01 PM
Response to Original message
11. Yes, and I'm not alone in wincing when they're referred to as female body parts.
That tells me more about the juvenile nature of the poster, though, than it does about his target.
I try to have a thick skin. I've seen more than one discussion group destroyed by language police.
I do alert on things I find very offensive, maybe once a month. Most of the time I just realize I don't have a divine right to go through life unoffended and soldier on.
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #101
105. I try not to do that. If I reduce someone to a body part
it's one we all share.
However, not being male, I don't tend to wince when a man is referred to as a male body part. I do wince when anyone of either sex is referred to as a female body part.
Perhaps it's all those millennia of patriarchs considering everything to do with women as soiled and obscene.
shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:06 PM
Response to Original message
13. There was a whole thread of people making sick jokes about the beheading in Canada
That was sickening, not locked. I don't like what this place has become lately either.
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
22. Do you always make shit like this up?
I have been here quite a while and can't recall a single instance of a Republican being called gay for the hell of it. Now, if they are gay AND closeted AND a homophobe, I can see that.
You probably wanna run back to FR if you wanna concoct fables out of whole cloth.
dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. In the LGBT forum, just yesterday, Bush was called gay
Rove has been called gay, Limbaugh has been called gay, Reed has been called gay, and that is just off the top of my head. Use search, it is your friend. Don't call posters liars.
Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:44 PM
Response to Original message
23. You ARE welcome!
We like you and we like you A LOT, LeftCoast! Please don't let stupid people make you feel bad.
I don't know anybody who lets the Th1onein primitive make them feel badly.
IanDB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. I find DU to be an exceptionally tolerant place. But then again...
I have over 50 people on my ignore list.
mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #34
37. this is such a gay thread....
Sorry for pushing your button, but dammit you made it so easy! Seriously, you're not the first person to be offended or hurt by common figures of speech in use here-- for example, we've had extensive threads about language that's disrespectful of women and other groups.
My advice is to remember that unless you're the actual target of someone's disrespect, it helps to have a skin thick enough to protect your own blood pressure from unnecessary stress. Mostly it's not intended to be insulting, even when it inadvertently is.
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 02:09 AM
Response to Original message
109. You know how there are people who are socially challenged?
They don't know how to act out in public ... they say things that everyone else in the group wouldn't dare say?
They show up at dinner without bringing something like a bottle of wine, because the host said not to bring anything. When everyone knows you bring something anyway.
I think a lot of the offenders at DU are like this. It's not really malicious as much as their minds just don't get it.
How anyone can think gay people aren't horribly embarrassed to read about Democrats or Republicans getting busted for bathroom sex is beyond me.
And yet they seem to try to justify it with the hypocrisy excuse.
Oh, look at the hypocritical Republicans.
Apparently pointing out something that is out of the hands of all of us as Democrats is more important than the feelings of gay DUers.
It's quite sad.
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Don't you ever, and I mean *EVER* call me a republican or a christian again, do you understand me, boy?
Hmmm.....and who are the racists?
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I think some public, face to face, name calling right now might do this country some good. It seems plain to me that the PC shit hasn't worked.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3729700
Oh my.
LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 05:57 PM
Original message
I don't feel welcome here
I've been around here for years and it just never stops. Virtually every foul Republican is referred to as "gay". It happens over and over. It's against the rules and the mods do try, but it never ends. Why?
They say that doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result is the definition of insanity so I don't know why I keep expecting it to change.
I don't know what to do, but I don't like how DU makes me feel.
It's a very big bonfire, as the primitives boast of their virtue.
Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 05:58 PM
Response to Original message
1. I never call anyone gay
At least, not as an epithet.
If something is ****ed up I simply say ****ed up.
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
3. That's a new one on me
I've never seen any posts that referred to Republicans as gay, unless, of course, they were.
If you are uncomfortable coming to this site, I sure wouldn't blame you for ditching it.
Now, throughout the whole bonfire, some primitives challenge the allegation, demanding proof, and other primitives provide the proof, in links to other bonfires on Skins's island. There's a lot of those, and way too many to copy-and-paste over here.
Before getting into this particular exchange, franksolich has to remind everyone that contrary to popular internet rumor, the cboy4 primitive, the primitive whom the grazing primitive (the rich kid "jgraz" primitive) mocks and derides, is NOT franksolich's mole on Skins's island.
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
4. Just click the "X" at the top right corner if you don't like how it makes you feel...
It's really just that simple....
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 02:19 AM
Response to Reply #4
110. What a bullshit response.
What's wrong with you?
Would you say the same thing if African Americans were complaining about DUers using the N word too much?
You'd say, oh there, there....just click the X, it's really that simple.
Please.
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 03:07 AM
Response to Reply #110
113. Thanks for labeling your post before I opened it...
What's wrong with me? There's nothing wrong with me, what's wrong with you? If *I* don't "feel welcome" somewhere, I leave and don't go back... I don't whine about it to anyone and everyone who'll listen. It's called "being a grownup"... try it some time, ok?
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 03:20 AM
Response to Reply #113
114. OMFG. Yea, well it's very clear you're not a member of a minority group with your bullshit insensitive attitude.
Are you kidding me? If you don't feel welcome somewhere, you leave and don't go back?
If gay people don't feel welcome at school or at work or in their town ... they should just leave and not come back?
If a black person doesn't feel comfortable at a restaurant because they're not getting the same level of service as white people, they should just leave and don't go back.
Do you think the civil rights movement is based on running away?
No, it's based on confrontation and activism and certainly not running away.
You need to grow up.
And you might start that process by ditching some of your bigotry, since you actually think minorities complaining about being treated like shit is whining.
Why you sound exactly like a right wing fundamentalist christian republican. Don't you Ghost?
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 04:38 AM
Response to Reply #114
115. I'm gonna tell you something ONE TIME, little boy, and you'd better pay attention...
Don't you ever, and I mean *EVER* call me a republican or a christian again, do you understand me, boy? If you ever grew the cojones to say that to my face, I'd knock your ****ing teeth down the back of your throat, then crush your ****ing nuts just for fun. I'm not the nicest guy in the world, nor have I ever claimed to be... learn who you're lipping off to, boy.....
This is a *******ed message board on the ****ing internet, NOT a restaurant, school or anything else. If you don't like things being said, or you don't feel welcome, click the big ****ing "X" at the top right corner and be done with it. Period.
"No, it's based on confrontation and activism and certainly not running away."
I'd say you need to take it up with the administrators of this site, then... wouldn't you? You're pretty ****ing arrogant if you think the whole world needs to change just to accomodate YOU...
Get the **** over yourself, son... you're not that ****ing important in the whole scheme of life... or even on an anonymous internet message board. Neither am I, for that matter... we're ALL no more than just tiny grains of sand in a great big desert when it all boils down...
Do you think maybe *I* should whine and snot the next time someone posts something about "fat pasty white men"?
If you don't ever want to be offended in life, turn your ****ing computer off, crawl under your blankets and don't ever leave your house again, ok?
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 05:00 AM
Response to Reply #115
116. Oh I'll call you any goddam thing I feel like calling you son.
And if I decide you sound like a radical right wing fundamentalist christian conservative republican with your bigoted racist views, then that's what you're going to get called.
You have zero say in the matter.
Despite your embarrassing threats.
Other primitive quotes, from primitives of prominence:
sfexpat2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
6. People learn over time. In between, there are outbreaks of stupidity.
I'm sorry, LeftCoast.
CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
7. My dear LeftCoast...
I would never do that...
I am so sorry, sweetie...
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:01 PM
Response to Original message
11. Yes, and I'm not alone in wincing when they're referred to as female body parts.
That tells me more about the juvenile nature of the poster, though, than it does about his target.
I try to have a thick skin. I've seen more than one discussion group destroyed by language police.
I do alert on things I find very offensive, maybe once a month. Most of the time I just realize I don't have a divine right to go through life unoffended and soldier on.
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #101
105. I try not to do that. If I reduce someone to a body part
it's one we all share.
However, not being male, I don't tend to wince when a man is referred to as a male body part. I do wince when anyone of either sex is referred to as a female body part.
Perhaps it's all those millennia of patriarchs considering everything to do with women as soiled and obscene.
shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:06 PM
Response to Original message
13. There was a whole thread of people making sick jokes about the beheading in Canada
That was sickening, not locked. I don't like what this place has become lately either.
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
22. Do you always make shit like this up?
I have been here quite a while and can't recall a single instance of a Republican being called gay for the hell of it. Now, if they are gay AND closeted AND a homophobe, I can see that.
You probably wanna run back to FR if you wanna concoct fables out of whole cloth.
dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. In the LGBT forum, just yesterday, Bush was called gay
Rove has been called gay, Limbaugh has been called gay, Reed has been called gay, and that is just off the top of my head. Use search, it is your friend. Don't call posters liars.
Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:44 PM
Response to Original message
23. You ARE welcome!
We like you and we like you A LOT, LeftCoast! Please don't let stupid people make you feel bad.
I don't know anybody who lets the Th1onein primitive make them feel badly.
IanDB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. I find DU to be an exceptionally tolerant place. But then again...
I have over 50 people on my ignore list.
mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #34
37. this is such a gay thread....
Sorry for pushing your button, but dammit you made it so easy! Seriously, you're not the first person to be offended or hurt by common figures of speech in use here-- for example, we've had extensive threads about language that's disrespectful of women and other groups.
My advice is to remember that unless you're the actual target of someone's disrespect, it helps to have a skin thick enough to protect your own blood pressure from unnecessary stress. Mostly it's not intended to be insulting, even when it inadvertently is.
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 02:09 AM
Response to Original message
109. You know how there are people who are socially challenged?
They don't know how to act out in public ... they say things that everyone else in the group wouldn't dare say?
They show up at dinner without bringing something like a bottle of wine, because the host said not to bring anything. When everyone knows you bring something anyway.
I think a lot of the offenders at DU are like this. It's not really malicious as much as their minds just don't get it.
How anyone can think gay people aren't horribly embarrassed to read about Democrats or Republicans getting busted for bathroom sex is beyond me.
And yet they seem to try to justify it with the hypocrisy excuse.
Oh, look at the hypocritical Republicans.
Apparently pointing out something that is out of the hands of all of us as Democrats is more important than the feelings of gay DUers.
It's quite sad.
Wow! that exchange between GITM and cboy4 was not only deleted but thrown down the skimmer hole :-)
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Don't you ever, and I mean *EVER* call me a republican or a christian again, do you understand me, boy?
Hmmm.....and who are the racists?
that's what I was a thinking not to mention bigot :rotf: Oh well that's life at U places most attempts at discussion digress steadily downward to name calling and accusations.
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Wow! that exchange between GITM and cboy4 was not only deleted but thrown down the skimmer hole.
Hmmm.
That must have happened within minutes of me posting this.
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DUmmie_LeftCoast Gay_Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 05:57 PM
Original message
I don't feel welcome here
I've been around here for years and it just never stops. Virtually every foul Republican is referred to as "gay". It happens over and over. It's against the rules and the mods do try, but it never ends. Why?
People who complain about name calling are gay.
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What a gay thread.
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Buncha pansies, those DUmmies.
Wait, was that anti-gay or anti-flower? I get so confused anymore.
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Wow! that exchange between GITM and cboy4 was not only deleted but thrown down the skimmer hole.
Hmmm.
That must have happened within minutes of me posting this.
No one screencapped it? Damn. That was one for the ages.
I was going to risk a mole calling GITM every conservative name in the book and offering a time and place to throw down.
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Homophobia is no worse than Zenophobia ! :cheersmate:
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