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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 05:50 PM
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Governor Rick Perry Must Halt Medellin Execution Immediately,
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Source: Amnesty International
Governor Rick Perry Must Halt Medellin Execution Immediately,
Says Amnesty International
Texas Goes 'Beyond the Pale if it Insists on Going Forward' With Execution
WASHINGTON - August 4 - Amnesty International USA (AIUSA) today urged Texas Governor Rick Perry to stay the execution of José Medellin to comply with a recent ruling from the International Court of Justice, or World Court. Medellin, a Mexican national who was never informed of his right to request consular assistance, is scheduled to be put to death tomorrow.
"It is imperative that Texas officials stay the execution of José Medellin not only because of the pending World Court decision, but also to take into account recent Congressional action on this issue," said Larry Cox, executive director for AIUSA. "Even President Bush, who signed scores of death warrants as Texas governor, concurred some time ago that the United States must honor its international obligations in this case. There will be no clearer sign that Texas will have gone beyond the pale than if José Medellin's execution goes forward."
The World Court last month ordered the U.S. government to "take all measures necessary" to halt the upcoming execution of five Mexican nationals in Texas until it makes a final judgment in a dispute over their consular rights. Medellin is the first of those scheduled to be put to death.
Texas officials acknowledge that Medellin was never told he could speak with a consular official from Mexico when he was arrested, but U.S. courts have ruled that this treaty right, which is enshrined in the Vienna Convention on Consular Rights (VCCR), cannot be invoked because Medellin never raised the issue during his original trial or sentencing. In March, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that this procedural bar trumped U.S. obligations under the Vienna Convention, because Congress had not passed implementing legislation to give the VCCR domestic effect. Such implementing legislation has now been introduced in Congress, but will not become law before Medellin's scheduled execution.
Read more: http://www.commondreams.org/news2008/0804-08.htm
Demeter (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:07 PM
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1. I Will Be Following This Story
as much as I can with eyes tightly shut against the obscenity of US actions. God help us all.
bluesmail (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-04-08 06:15 PM
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2. Any willing parties who engage in this revenge murder
if it does happen, and I believe it will, are themselves murderers.
I can't tell if DUmmie Demeter is fur it or agin it. I see obscenity in trying to stop it - after 15 years.
DUmmie bluesmail doesn't know the definition of "murderers". The DUmmie is also confused about the reason for the death penalty. It isn't about revenge. It is about justice. You kill someone in Texas and chances are Texas won't let you keep on living.
I've been reading bits and pieces about this on all sorts of blogs for the politically & socially insane. They don't give a fat rat's ass about the Mexican getting the hot needle. They just can't stand the precedent it will set. The WORLD COURT, one of their Holy Institutions, will be exposed as insignificant and rendered mute. That is the thing with which they have a problem.
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One, Governor Goodhair can't stop the execution. The Texas Board of Parole and Pardons makes the decision on executions, pardons and paroles. The Board affirmed the execution order. Goodhair can't stop it.
Second, Jose Medellin did not take the Mexican national position until 1997. Four years after his trial. Medellin said he told both Houston police and Harris County sheriffs that he was a Mexican national upon his arrest, but this story falls apart on it's own when you consider that neither Medellin nor his attorney brought up this point during his trial, his sentencing phase, nor in his appeals until the Mexican government brought it up to him in 1997. The only question that remains is what Medellin will have for his last dinner.
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One, Governor Goodhair can't stop the execution. The Texas Board of Parole and Pardons makes the decision on executions, pardons and paroles. The Board affirmed the execution order. Goodhair can't stop it.
Second, Jose Medellin did not take the Mexican national position until 1997. Four years after his trial. Medellin said he told both Houston police and Harris County sheriffs that he was a Mexican national upon his arrest, but this story falls apart on it's own when you consider that neither Medellin nor his attorney brought up this point during his trial, his sentencing phase, nor in his appeals until the Mexican government brought it up to him in 1997. The only question that remains is what Medellin will have for his last dinner.
May I suggest Taco Bell?
:lmao: :rotf:
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My take on it is that they should let the guy face his execution at the hands of blind people using butterknives and spoons.
And they should televise it.
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One, Governor Goodhair can't stop the execution. The Texas Board of Parole and Pardons makes the decision on executions, pardons and paroles. The Board affirmed the execution order. Goodhair can't stop it.
Second, Jose Medellin did not take the Mexican national position until 1997. Four years after his trial. Medellin said he told both Houston police and Harris County sheriffs that he was a Mexican national upon his arrest, but this story falls apart on it's own when you consider that neither Medellin nor his attorney brought up this point during his trial, his sentencing phase, nor in his appeals until the Mexican government brought it up to him in 1997. The only question that remains is what Medellin will have for his last dinner.
May I suggest Taco Bell?
:rotf: H5
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"Flouting the World Court ruling would be yet another blight on America's already tarnished international reputation," said Sue Gunawardena-Vaughn, director of AIUSA's Death Penalty Abolition Campaign.
ask us if we give a sh** lady!
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One, Governor Goodhair can't stop the execution. The Texas Board of Parole and Pardons makes the decision on executions, pardons and paroles. The Board affirmed the execution order. Goodhair can't stop it.
Second, Jose Medellin did not take the Mexican national position until 1997. Four years after his trial. Medellin said he told both Houston police and Harris County sheriffs that he was a Mexican national upon his arrest, but this story falls apart on it's own when you consider that neither Medellin nor his attorney brought up this point during his trial, his sentencing phase, nor in his appeals until the Mexican government brought it up to him in 1997. The only question that remains is what Medellin will have for his last dinner.
Don't mess them up with the F word (F A C T S).
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One, Governor Goodhair can't stop the execution. The Texas Board of Parole and Pardons makes the decision on executions, pardons and paroles. The Board affirmed the execution order. Goodhair can't stop it.
Second, Jose Medellin did not take the Mexican national position until 1997. Four years after his trial. Medellin said he told both Houston police and Harris County sheriffs that he was a Mexican national upon his arrest, but this story falls apart on it's own when you consider that neither Medellin nor his attorney brought up this point during his trial, his sentencing phase, nor in his appeals until the Mexican government brought it up to him in 1997. The only question that remains is what Medellin will have for his last dinner.
Don't know how it works in Tejas, but the Governor of Georgia can stop an execution here with a stay.
Why is it DUmmies ALWAYS side with f'n murderers? ::)
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I'm pretty sure the Governor is allowed to issue ONE 30 stay of execution and that is it. I wouldn't swear to that though.
KC
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I'm pretty sure the Governor is allowed to issue ONE 30 stay of execution and that is it. I wouldn't swear to that though.
KC
The Texas Governor has no power to stop the execution. He may issue one stay or he may let his desires be known to the board - but that's it. It is NOT in his hands. Most people don't know this about Texas.
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One, Governor Goodhair can't stop the execution. The Texas Board of Parole and Pardons makes the decision on executions, pardons and paroles. The Board affirmed the execution order. Goodhair can't stop it.
Second, Jose Medellin did not take the Mexican national position until 1997. Four years after his trial. Medellin said he told both Houston police and Harris County sheriffs that he was a Mexican national upon his arrest, but this story falls apart on it's own when you consider that neither Medellin nor his attorney brought up this point during his trial, his sentencing phase, nor in his appeals until the Mexican government brought it up to him in 1997. The only question that remains is what Medellin will have for his last dinner.
Don't know how it works in Tejas, but the Governor of Georgia can stop an execution here with a stay.
Why is it DUmmies ALWAYS side with f'n murderers? ::)
I surely don't know. It is astounding though to know that there are 50 Mexicans on death row in America!
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One, Governor Goodhair can't stop the execution. The Texas Board of Parole and Pardons makes the decision on executions, pardons and paroles. The Board affirmed the execution order. Goodhair can't stop it.
Second, Jose Medellin did not take the Mexican national position until 1997. Four years after his trial. Medellin said he told both Houston police and Harris County sheriffs that he was a Mexican national upon his arrest, but this story falls apart on it's own when you consider that neither Medellin nor his attorney brought up this point during his trial, his sentencing phase, nor in his appeals until the Mexican government brought it up to him in 1997. The only question that remains is what Medellin will have for his last dinner.
Don't know how it works in Tejas, but the Governor of Georgia can stop an execution here with a stay.
Why is it DUmmies ALWAYS side with f'n murderers? ::)
Because the only thing they hate more than themselves is the USA (and by extension, all her citizens and legal residents).
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Since we are on the subject of the death penalty can I just offer us this?
Ohio Inmate Claims He's Too Fat to Be Executed
COLUMBUS, Ohio — A death row inmate scheduled for execution in October says he's so fat that Ohio executioners would have trouble finding his veins and that his weight could diminish the effectiveness of one of the lethal injection drugs.
Lawyers for Richard Cooey argue in a federal lawsuit that Cooey had poor veins when he faced execution five years ago and that the problem has been worsened by weight gain.
Cooey, 41, was sentenced to die for raping and murdering two female University of Akron students in 1986. After a federal judge granted Cooey a last-minute reprieve in 2003, Cooey was returned to death row. In April, he lost a challenge to Ohio's lethal injection process when the U.S. Supreme Court said he had missed a deadline to file a lawsuit.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397521,00.html
excuse me but :lmao:
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Since we are on the subject of the death penalty can I just offer us this?
Ohio Inmate Claims He's Too Fat to Be Executed
COLUMBUS, Ohio — A death row inmate scheduled for execution in October says he's so fat that Ohio executioners would have trouble finding his veins and that his weight could diminish the effectiveness of one of the lethal injection drugs.
Lawyers for Richard Cooey argue in a federal lawsuit that Cooey had poor veins when he faced execution five years ago and that the problem has been worsened by weight gain.
Cooey, 41, was sentenced to die for raping and murdering two female University of Akron students in 1986. After a federal judge granted Cooey a last-minute reprieve in 2003, Cooey was returned to death row. In April, he lost a challenge to Ohio's lethal injection process when the U.S. Supreme Court said he had missed a deadline to file a lawsuit.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397521,00.html
excuse me but :lmao:
Is he saying if he had a medical emergency he is too fat to start an IV so they should just let him die? Some Fat F*ck hasn't thought through this defense angle all the way.
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I'm pretty sure the Governor is allowed to issue ONE 30 stay of execution and that is it. I wouldn't swear to that though.
KC
The Texas Governor has no power to stop the execution. He may issue one stay or he may let his desires be known to the board - but that's it. It is NOT in his hands. Most people don't know this about Texas.
And the stay is only 30 days. He's done it at least once.
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Since we are on the subject of the death penalty can I just offer us this?
Ohio Inmate Claims He's Too Fat to Be Executed
COLUMBUS, Ohio — A death row inmate scheduled for execution in October says he's so fat that Ohio executioners would have trouble finding his veins and that his weight could diminish the effectiveness of one of the lethal injection drugs.
Lawyers for Richard Cooey argue in a federal lawsuit that Cooey had poor veins when he faced execution five years ago and that the problem has been worsened by weight gain.
Cooey, 41, was sentenced to die for raping and murdering two female University of Akron students in 1986. After a federal judge granted Cooey a last-minute reprieve in 2003, Cooey was returned to death row. In April, he lost a challenge to Ohio's lethal injection process when the U.S. Supreme Court said he had missed a deadline to file a lawsuit.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397521,00.html
excuse me but :lmao:
Is he too fat for a firing squad?
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I wonder if our little primitive friend who loves Texas death row inmates is all over this one?
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You kill someone in Texas and chances are Texas won't let you keep on living.
“If you come to Texas and kill someone, we will kill you back! That's our policyâ€
- Ron White
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^God Bless Texas :-)
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One, Governor Goodhair can't stop the execution. The Texas Board of Parole and Pardons makes the decision on executions, pardons and paroles. The Board affirmed the execution order. Goodhair can't stop it.
Second, Jose Medellin did not take the Mexican national position until 1997. Four years after his trial. Medellin said he told both Houston police and Harris County sheriffs that he was a Mexican national upon his arrest, but this story falls apart on it's own when you consider that neither Medellin nor his attorney brought up this point during his trial, his sentencing phase, nor in his appeals until the Mexican government brought it up to him in 1997. The only question that remains is what Medellin will have for his last dinner.
Hmmmm. "What would you like on your Tombstone"(Pizza that is),
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I surely don't know. It is astounding though to know that there are ONLY 50 Mexicans on death row in America!
Fixed. Given that a disproportionate number of the felons in our prison systems are illegals.
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Dear Murdering Raping Illegal Intruder:
Today is the last day of the rest of your life.
Enjoy!
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Want to increase the tourist income to Mexico (assuming that's the catbox where they'll cover over this pile of shit)? Publish the location of his gravesite in Houston, so they can go pay proper respects.
Better change out that headstone for a urinal if you do though.
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You kill someone in Texas and chances are Texas won't let you keep on living.
“If you come to Texas and kill someone, we will kill you back! That's our policyâ€
- Ron White
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Yeah, and we're the only state that has an express line on Death Row. lol
But seriously, Houstonians will NEVER forget this heinous crime by these scumbags. It still shocks to this day. Ertman and Pena were repeatedly raped, tortured, sodomized, strangled, and stomped on by these cupcakes.
Here's some info: ****WARNING***DISTURBING AND GRAPHIC DETAILS****** http://www.murdervictims.com/voices/jeneliz.html
:censored:
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When exactly is this POS scheduled to go to his infernal reward, btw?
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When exactly is this POS scheduled to go to his infernal reward, btw?
Sometime tonight, last I heard. Though at the Glenn Beck show in Dallas, the Gub'ner said something about September 5th, if I recall.
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When exactly is this POS scheduled to go to his infernal reward, btw?
TODAY
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Sean O'Brien was executed on July 11, 2006. His final statement was, "I'm sorry. I have always been sorry. It's the worst mistake that I ever made in my whole life. Not because I am here but because of what I did and I hurt a lot of people, you and my family."
One asshole down and a few more to go.
When exactly is this POS scheduled to go to his infernal reward, btw?
Medellin has an execution date of August 5, 2008.
Cya, ****wad. :evillaugh:
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/5924476.html
article says this evening but dosen't give a time.
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Sean O'Brien was executed on July 11, 2006. His final statement was, "I'm sorry. I have always been sorry. It's the worst mistake that I ever made in my whole life. Not because I am here but because of what I did and I hurt a lot of people, you and my family."
One ******* down and a few more to go.
When exactly is this POS scheduled to go to his infernal reward, btw?
Medellin has an execution date of August 5, 2008.
Cya, ****wad. :evillaugh:
And this wasn't the first time that one of these guys killed.
Sean O'Brian was later linked by DNA to a previous brutal murder of a young woman at another Houston park. The victim was raped and then slashed up like an animal. The dumbass left a beer can at the scene. His DNA was linked to the beer can.
And these DU tards want these guys saved? Liberalism is a mental disorder.
:banghead: :banghead:
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Is he dead yet?
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Is he dead yet?
O'Brien? Yes, the waste of a zygote was executed in 2006.
As for Medellin, I believe he will be executed this evening.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/5924476.html
article says this evening but dosen't give a time.
I'll have to raise a bottle of beer to this individual (can't call it a "person") meeting Satan. :fuelfire: :fuelfire: :-)
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I thought they usually fried them at midnight or after?
I hope he made peace with God first.
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I thought they usually fried them at midnight or after?
I hope he made peace with God first.
Nah, that's only in old Cagney movies.
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I thought they usually fried them at midnight or after?
I hope he made peace with God first.
He will be toast a little after 6PM tonight.
God does not want him, someone else does.
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I thought they usually fried them at midnight or after?
I hope he made peace with God first.
He will be toast a little after 6PM tonight.
God does not want him, someone else does.
The Gub'ner was quoted elsewhere paraphrasing: "It's the job of God to judge the actions of every man and to dispense justice or mercy accordingly. It's my job merely to expedite the appointment." :II:
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I thought they usually fried them at midnight or after?
I hope he made peace with God first.
He will be toast a little after 6PM tonight.
God does not want him, someone else does.
The Gub'ner was quoted elsewhere paraphrasing: "It's the job of God to judge the actions of every man and to dispense justice or mercy accordingly. It's my job merely to expedite the appointment." :II:
If I could H5 Gov. Perry, I would.
Guess you'll hafta do . . . ;)