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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on October 19, 2016, 05:46:50 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/11584268
Oh my. This is disgusting, the way primitives are.
SHRED (14,211 posts) Sun Oct 16, 2016, 04:51 PM
Any construction Contractors in here?
Let me ask you.
My mother in-law had water damage in her tub/shower wall.
Shortened story...(details here http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028232628)
Insurance is paid. Everything is demoed. She wants a shower kit/stall installed.
I totalled up all materials needed...some drywall, floor tiles, shower stall insert, shower valve and hardware which came to about $3,000 ($2,000 for the insert)
The contractor knows how much we are working with (see details above) which is about $8,000 and claims they can't do the job on this tiny bathroom for $5,000.
When you factor overhead, labor, and profit isn't it about a 50/50 split for these with materials? If not, as I know this is a generality, do you think they can't do it for $5,000 or they just want too much?
Looking at this small job I cannot see why $5,000, above materials, is not enough.
Question for the shredded primitive--since when do you determine the price of a good and service you're seeking? You have no realistic idea what the supplier's expenses are, and what's considered a fair profit.
For a primitive, one suspects that one cent above the cost of labor and materials is a "fair" profit--if some other guy's doing the job.
But if a primitive's doing the job, probably twice the cost of labor and materials would be the minimal "fair" profit.
As a customer, the control you have over prices is.....whether or not you're willing to pay it, or to look elsewhere.
Old and In the Way (37,509 posts) Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:06 PM
1. Seems high to me. Say they charge $50/hr,
100 hours do do the job seems way too high. I would suggest getting 3 or 4 other quotes.
Oh now, how would you know what's "way too high"?
If it seems "too high," one should do as the old primitive suggests; get some other quotes.
Hassin Bin Sober (15,859 posts) Sun Oct 16, 2016, 06:56 PM
4. I charge around $6.5k in Chicago.
That includes supplies but not tile or fixtures (tub, toilet, vanity, mirror, lighting).
See?
The Hussein von Slobber primitive, who's in the business, has a better idea of what's "fair"--and probably with the fixtures included, it'll be about the $8,000 originally quoted the shredding primitive.
Wash. state Desk Jet (2,799 posts) Sun Oct 16, 2016, 10:22 PM
5. Seems to me you answered yer own question.
Void the contract and get some bids -like about five of them. And an independent contractor just might get you a better deal price wise on those materials. And leave out the insurance claim part . $65 an hour is just a base quote to them. You know they make their money on materials and labor-ok so the mark up on the contractor cost of materials plus the estimated time involved and the time factor does not include the unforeseen. In other words cost over ride. Than there is add on's . They like the nice round $10,000 number on bathrooms.
From my experience as a contractor and I'm retired, insurance companies are a pain in the ass. You somehow end up on their call list, they call you about a job ,They tell you how much the estimated damage is and suggest you keep your bid inside their damage report estimate. So,it's a racket.
If yer any good as a contractor., you don't need insurance jobs unless the client is one of yer own.
I'm retired ,done with it, but ben sobers take on it seems about right. From my experience in it, when the client ends up with some extra monies out of it, they may be inclined to want additional work . If they like you and your work,they will have you back for more.
That is how an independent contractor builds a business. Repeat customers and referrals.
Keep that in mind when you are getting estimates.
I don't know about the 50/50 split thing ! Some jobs are labor intensive meaning the cost of labor can far exceed the cost of materials. Ask any plumber ! Or auto mechanic for that matter !
Yer bathroom job however should come in on yer target number.
It's sickening, the way the primitive think honest working men--their mechanics, their plumbers, their electricians, their roofers, their appliance repairmen, their groundskeepers, &c., &c., &c., are always trying to cheat them.
But then on the other hand, they don't mind being ripped off by the bosses of the local, state, and national party political machines.
:puke:
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Come on DUmmy. In your socialist Valhalla, the contractor should do everything at cost. Zero profit.
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Does the dummies contractor use union labor? If not, why is the dummie not calling a contractor that uses union labor?
Come on dummie... come over here and explain it to me.
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He should do it himself and then figure out how much it is worth for a good job.
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Does the dummies contractor use union labor? If not, why is the dummie not calling a contractor that uses union labor?
Come on dummie... come over here and explain it to me.
Well, like a primitive, he's worried the other guy might be getting "too much."