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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 01, 2016, 06:46:53 AM
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (16,130 posts)
Feminist Bookstore Says F*** Portlandia! for "Transmisogyny" and "Queer Antagonism"
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/feminist-bookstore-rips-portlandia-transmisogyny-queer-antagonism-220912647.html
A Portland bookstore is saying, "F - Portlandia."
The specialty bookshop In Other Words, which has served as the inspiration (and actual filming location) for the fictional shop in the IFC comedy about Portland, Ore., has posted a sign on its door that reads, "F - Portlandia." In a blog post, the bookstore staff revealed it has decided to cut ties with the sketch series starring Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen, citing the "trans-antagonistic attitude" and "queer antagonism" it claims the show perpetuates as reasons why.
The establishment's website offers a deeper explanation of why the In Other Words "community" has agreed to discontinue its relationship with the comedy. " 'LOL Fred Armisen in a wig and a dress' is a deeply shitty joke whose sole punchline throws trans femmes under the bus by holding up their gender presentation for mockery and ridicule," reads the letter posted online. "In a world where trans femmes - particularly Black trans women - are being brutalized and murdered on a regular basis for simply daring to exist, dude in a dress jokes are lazy, reactionary, and actively harmful. They're also just straight up not funny."
The staff also contended that the show's production mistreated the In Other Words employees, left the bookstore a mess and forced neighboring shops to close down and lose business for a day without any warning. Additionally, it pointed out that being featured in the series doesn't actually make the shop any money, as the small flat fee it's paid for each episode isn't enough to outweigh the profits lost by having to close down for filming.
I'm pretty sure the show has been on long enough that they could have decided it was "just straight up not funny" quite a while ago.
"trans-antagonistic" sounds like a made up word from an episode of Portlandia.
Cal Carpenter (3,930 posts)
1. From the full statement on their site:
"The current board, staff, and volunteers were not involved in the decision, made six years ago, to allow Portlandia to film at In Other Words. We stand behind our collective decision to discontinue our relationship with the show. "
They are a struggling specialty bookstore - a specialty that is rare to find these days. (Also from their website: "When we opened in 1993 there were over 200 feminist bookstores in the United States and today there are fewer than 30".)
If the filming is not only disrupting their already precarious nonprofit business, but is also resulting in disrespect of their space and their staff, then it sounds like the right decision. They provide an important service to their community and that has to come first.
Selling second hand hipster douche bag books =/= important community service
TheFrenchRazor (252 posts)
2. only watched the show a couple times, but i agree. nt
Warren DeMontague (74,194 posts)
3. They are right that the show's just not that funny.
And I'm perfectly capable of laughing at Portland; although I do think for all the "ooh Portland's so weird looky how weird it is", actual "normal" middle America is waaaaaaaaaay weirder. It's not the "weird" people you need to watch out for, anyway.
Think about all the time that was spent in the 80s and early 90s with the popular entertainment press obsessing over whether Michael Stipe was gay; is he? Isn't he? He's so weird! So obscure! What's he saying? Such odd sexuality!
Meanwhile, at the same time, "America's Dad" was apparently busy being a serial rapist. Don't even get me started on Denny Hastert or the Catholic Church.
Yeah, it's the normal people you need to watch out for.
But I digress. I think the bookstore was in a kind of going-out-of-business money losing spiral before Fred Armisen showed up, the show may have given em a year or so extra but the fame didn't pay the bills. And some of it may have been the bookstore's fault, some of it may have been that a bookstore is a tough business in the age of Amazon, and when you're sharing a city with a 6 floor walk-in bookstore like Powell's, that probably has a section of a floor devoted to Feminist Discourse larger than their entire shop-- the writing was probably on the wall a while ago.
Proglodytes are absolutely ego-driven.
Anything and everything that makes fun of them is derided as "just not funny" as if they're so aloof but objective that the rest of us should just take their word for it.
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...and lose business for a day without any warning. Additionally, it pointed out that being featured in the series doesn't actually make the shop any money, as the small flat fee it's paid for each episode isn't enough to outweigh the profits lost by having to close down for filming.
That's a laugher. What's the flat fee, ten bucks? There's a reason the number of these places dropped off so much, and it isn't Teh Patriarchy. If you can't make it as a nonprofit depending on unpaid volunteers, it says a lot about the demand for your product.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (16,130 posts)
Feminist Bookstore Says F*** Portlandia! for "Transmisogyny" and "Queer Antagonism"
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/feminist-bookstore-rips-portlandia-transmisogyny-queer-antagonism-220912647.html
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A Portland bookstore is saying, "F - Portlandia."
The staff also contended that the show's production mistreated the In Other Words employees, left the bookstore a mess and forced neighboring shops to close down and lose business for a day without any warning. Additionally, it pointed out that being featured in the series doesn't actually make the shop any money, as the small flat fee it's paid for each episode isn't enough to outweigh the profits lost by having to close down for filming.
Warren DeMontague (74,194 posts)
3. They are right that the show's just not that funny.
And I'm perfectly capable of laughing at Portland; although I do think for all the "ooh Portland's so weird looky how weird it is", actual "normal" middle America is waaaaaaaaaay weirder. It's not the "weird" people you need to watch out for, anyway.
Think about all the time that was spent in the 80s and early 90s with the popular entertainment press obsessing over whether Michael Stipe was gay; is he? Isn't he? He's so weird! So obscure! What's he saying? Such odd sexuality!
Meanwhile, at the same time, "America's Dad" was apparently busy being a serial rapist. Don't even get me started on Denny Hastert or the Catholic Church.
Yeah, it's the normal people you need to watch out for.
But I digress. I think the bookstore was in a kind of going-out-of-business money losing spiral before Fred Armisen showed up, the show may have given em a year or so extra but the fame didn't pay the bills. And some of it may have been the bookstore's fault, some of it may have been that a bookstore is a tough business in the age of Amazon, and when you're sharing a city with a 6 floor walk-in bookstore like Powell's, that probably has a section of a floor devoted to Feminist Discourse larger than their entire shop-- the writing was probably on the wall a while ago.
al Carpenter (3,930 posts)
1. From the full statement on their site:
"The current board, staff, and volunteers were not involved in the decision, made six years ago, to allow Portlandia to film at In Other Words. We stand behind our collective decision to discontinue our relationship with the show. "
They are a struggling specialty bookstore - a specialty that is rare to find these days. (Also from their website: "When we opened in 1993 there were over 200 feminist bookstores in the United States and today there are fewer than 30".)
If the filming is not only disrupting their already precarious nonprofit business, but is also resulting in disrespect of their space and their staff, then it sounds like the right decision. They provide an important service to their community and that has to come first.
Profits lost by having to close down for filming outweigh the struggling going out of business spiral? Really nice negotiating there boss. ::)
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Profits lost by having to close down for filming outweigh the struggling going out of business spiral? Really nice negotiating there boss. ::)
I respectfully disagree. Profit is the only motive that is driving this decision. Watch the online sales come streaming in from across the country from DUmmies nationwide because of their decision to stand up to 'Big Hollywood' or somesuch.. Once the owners clean up, they can then shut the place down after having a 'Portlandia drove us out of business sale' to liquidate the remaining stock. Then walk away flush with cash and happy.
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I respectfully disagree. Profit is the only motive that is driving this decision. Watch the online sales come streaming in from across the country from DUmmies nationwide because of their decision to stand up to 'Big Hollywood' or somesuch.. Once the owners clean up, they can then shut the place down after having a 'Portlandia drove us out of business sale' to liquidate the remaining stock. Then walk away flush with cash and happy.
:cheersmate: I try not to stay in the DUmmie thought process too long as it may cause irreversible harm but I do believe you nailed it. H5.
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I respectfully disagree. Profit is the only motive that is driving this decision. Watch the online sales come streaming in from across the country from DUmmies nationwide because of their decision to stand up to 'Big Hollywood' or somesuch.. Once the owners clean up, they can then shut the place down after having a 'Portlandia drove us out of business sale' to liquidate the remaining stock. Then walk away flush with cash and happy.
This is correct. It takes a lot of money to be a Progressive in Portland. Sometimes you have to be extra-freaky to keep the greenbacks rolling in, you they can get back to complaining about greenbacks.
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The place sounds like Pacifica Radio's chronic money-pit station KPFA (in Berserkeley, where else!) that is a soap opera-collective of kingdom-building, inter-personal snippery, and disputes about the most Progressively correct way to re-split a split hair.
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I've never watched the show but seen promos. Those are supposed to be the best of the show and they are terrible. Super unfunny. Portlandia is the type of programming we get when cable companies force us to take lots of crap channels to get that one program on one channel. It's just the same as the bbc fee brits have to pay. No longer are prgrams measured by audiences as to their existence.
Want to really kill hollywood and the evilness that exudes from there? Make alacarte channels. Like Professor Reynolds says "End the hollywood tax cuts" our country would be an order of magnitude better off.
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" "In a world where trans femmes - particularly Black trans women - are being brutalized and murdered on a regular basis for simply daring to exist, dude in a dress jokes are lazy, reactionary, and actively harmful. They're also just straight up not funny.""
1. Funny that we have not heard of even a single account of a tranny being "Brutalized and murdered," let alone "On a regular basis." Had such an incident happened, you know darn well the LGBT activist freaks would be shrieking to no end about it and holding the victim up as a martyr and the media would show it on every news channel daily for months afterward, like BLM and the media do whenever a black person gets killed by a cop.
2. Once again we see the Left excelling at ruining things for everyone. "Dude in a dress" jokes, when done well, can indeed be very funny.
3. Do you think they'd still be complaining if the show (Which I never watched to begin with) insulted and stereotyped Christians, Southerners, conservatives, etc.?
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3. Do you think they'd still be complaining if the show (Which I never watched to begin with) insulted and stereotyped Christians, Southerners, conservatives, etc.?
Well, if the insults and stereotypes were poorly done, DU-folk might complain that the show isn't as good as all the other sitcoms, dramedies, and drama shows that insult and stereotype Christians, Southerners, conservatives, etc.
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" "In a world where trans femmes - particularly Black trans women - are being brutalized and murdered on a regular basis for simply daring to exist, dude in a dress jokes are lazy, reactionary, and actively harmful. They're also just straight up not funny.""
1. Funny that we have not heard of even a single account of a tranny being "Brutalized and murdered," let alone "On a regular basis." Had such an incident happened, you know darn well the LGBT activist freaks would be shrieking to no end about it and holding the victim up as a martyr and the media would show it on every news channel daily for months afterward, like BLM and the media do whenever a black person gets killed by a cop.
2. Once again we see the Left excelling at ruining things for everyone. "Dude in a dress" jokes, when done well, can indeed be very funny.
3. Do you think they'd still be complaining if the show (Which I never watched to begin with) insulted and stereotyped Christians, Southerners, conservatives, etc.?
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I've never watched the show but seen promos. Those are supposed to be the best of the show and they are terrible. Super unfunny. Portlandia is the type of programming we get when cable companies force us to take lots of crap channels to get that one program on one channel. It's just the same as the bbc fee brits have to pay. No longer are prgrams measured by audiences as to their existence.
Want to really kill hollywood and the evilness that exudes from there? Make alacarte channels. Like Professor Reynolds says "End the hollywood tax cuts" our country would be an order of magnitude better off.
I actually like the show and watch it regularly. The feminist characters are hysterical and the fact that the left hates it makes it even better. They hate having the mirror held up to them so they can see how the rest of the world sees them.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FPFUrXbQgc[/youtube]
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I actually like the show and watch it regularly. The feminist characters are hysterical and the fact that the left hates it makes it even better. They hate having the mirror held up to them so they can see how the rest of the world sees them.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FPFUrXbQgc[/youtube]
Showing the truth about humorless activists takes a bit of courage, these days. OTOH, Portlandia might get some free publicity from this move by these uber-feminazis.
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I find the show to be an almost-painfully-accurate parody of my own old hometown, home of a huge (Primarily liberal arts) land-grant university, which accounts for approximately half the city's population. I fully agree with AprilRazz.