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Title: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: CC27 on August 31, 2016, 02:46:23 PM
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kentuck (76,417 posts)

Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.


We can hope that he does not create an international incident.

The State Dept did not have time to set up the trip and he went on a whim. Perhaps he thinks he can make some type of political hay before his big speech on immigration tonight?

It's disturbing because it is indicative of what he might do as Commander in Chief. I seriously doubt that he would hesitate at all to send troops into any country that might speak ill of him.

He has shown himself to be a loser, no matter how this trip turns out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028135059

The only loser is you ken****.

Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: 67 Rover on August 31, 2016, 02:54:48 PM
The only loser is you ken****.

They had to come up with something considering that Killery turned down the invite due to health concerns.

Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: DLR Pyro on August 31, 2016, 02:59:44 PM
He was invited by the president of mexico.  Was he supposed to turn down the invite and risk offending El presidente?
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Delmar on August 31, 2016, 03:08:18 PM
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Response to kentuck (Original post)Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:47 PM
sarae (2,170 posts)
3. I agree.

This is a perfect example of him putting his personal goals above the country's. I think this is a matter of pure ego for him. He wants people to think he's a tough guy who's not afraid of other countries. He has no regard for the subtleties of international diplomacy – all that matters is his image. It's incredibly irresponsible and wreckless.

I really hope he doesn't create some kind of incident. You could argue he already has, just by going to Mexico after his dangerous rhetoric against Mexico, Mexicans, and Mexican-Americans.
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Response to kentuck (Original post)Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:49 PM
Star Member Botany (41,394 posts)
5. Trump's trip is putting people's lives @ risk

From our embassy, secret service people, mexican police and security people all
are being put at risk by Trump's trip.

I'm surprised that none of the DUnces have called the trip treasonous or a Logan Act violation yet.

He was invited.  Hillary was invited too but she couldn't pull herself away from Jimmy Buffet and John Bon Jovi or maybe she is hanging close to home waiting for an important delivery.
http://www.libertymedical.com/urology/products/
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Carl on August 31, 2016, 03:13:16 PM
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Response to kentuck (Original post)Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:49 PM
Star Member Botany (41,394 posts)
5. Trump's trip is putting people's lives @ risk

From our embassy, secret service people, mexican police and security people all
are being put at risk by Trump's trip.

Ambassador Stevens was unavailable for comment because he is DEAD but I guess...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpQ6X4ojHws[/youtube]
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Big Dog on August 31, 2016, 03:47:04 PM
I'm surprised that none of the DUnces have called the trip treasonous or a Logan Act violation yet.

He was invited.  Hillary was invited too but she couldn't pull herself away from Jimmy Buffet and John Bon Jovi or maybe she is hanging close to home waiting for an important delivery.
http://www.libertymedical.com/urology/products/

That's not the only buffet she can't pull herself away from.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: SVPete on August 31, 2016, 03:49:25 PM
The SHREW screwed up and declined the invite. Trump, who was already on the West Coast, showed the President of Mexico the respect of a quick acceptance. So of course DU-folk have to re-spin Trump's action and The SHREW's inaction.

Riddle me this, kt: Why is Trump's visit to Mexico a greater threat to Secret Service, Mexican police, etc. than Sasha and Malia's visit to Mexico a few years ago, with the same sort of Secret Service, etc., protection?
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: fatboy on August 31, 2016, 03:55:18 PM
Over at the DUmp right now (post Trump Mexico speech) It's like a bunch of Dopes mistook a hornets nest for a piñata.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Karin on August 31, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
^^ I wandered over and quickly and quietly backed out the door.  They're using a lot of these ***** and all caps.  I can't hear myself think. 

Every now and then, a DUmmie will pipe up and ask, "why don't we have more positive Hillary threads?"  It's all Trump all the time, in an echo chamber.  It's a good question, DUmmies.  Why don't you have more positive Hillary threads, where you extoll all her virtues and accomplishments, and the countless ways she has personally helped people, in order to arm yourself to go door to door?  You are going door to door, aren't you? 
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Delmar on August 31, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
Well, that didn't take long:
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Wed Aug 31, 2016, 04:36 PM
Star Member kentuck (76,418 posts)

Donald Trump has no more authority than I to negotiate with another country.


He has no official capacity to make any kind of deal with Mexico. He cannot offer or receive anything from Mexico. That should be clear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028135682
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Response to kentuck (Original post)Wed Aug 31, 2016, 04:43 PM
exboyfil (6,167 posts)
2. Logan Act violation?



§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Big Dog on August 31, 2016, 04:23:00 PM
'Logan Act violation?'

 :lmao:

Good luck with that one, DUmbass.

That blade cuts both ways. Felonia von Cankles is saddlebags deep in foreign influence peddling.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: FlaGator on August 31, 2016, 04:25:24 PM
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kentuck (76,417 posts)

Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.

I guess he should have played golf for a couple of weeks on Martha's Vineyard so as not to be impulsive
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: 67 Rover on August 31, 2016, 04:44:57 PM
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Wed Aug 31, 2016, 04:36 PM
Star Member kentuck (76,418 posts)

Donald Trump has no more authority than I to negotiate with another country.


He has no official capacity to make any kind of deal with Mexico. He cannot offer or receive anything from Mexico. That should be clear.

What??  You mean the Office Of President Elect is powerless?  Does jug ears know about this? :whatever:
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Carl on August 31, 2016, 05:01:50 PM
^^ I wandered over and quickly and quietly backed out the door.  They're using a lot of these ***** and all caps.  I can't hear myself think. 

Every now and then, a DUmmie will pipe up and ask, "why don't we have more positive Hillary threads?"  It's all Trump all the time, in an echo chamber.  It's a good question, DUmmies.  Why don't you have more positive Hillary threads, where you extoll all her virtues and accomplishments, and the countless ways she has personally helped people, in order to arm yourself to go door to door?  You are going door to door, aren't you?

I have seen nothing about the speech,trip or visited the DUmp yet but I presume he appeared Presidential but not cowering and they are in a panic? 
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: franksolich on August 31, 2016, 05:13:18 PM
He was invited by the president of mexico.  Was he supposed to turn down the invite and risk offending El presidente?

Well, yeah, sure.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Big Dog on August 31, 2016, 05:21:14 PM
As worked up as the DUmmies are, you'd think Trump just traded a pallet load of foreign cash for some hostages.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 31, 2016, 05:37:47 PM
I saw his (And El Presidente's) speeches, I was laughing my ass off because he totally killed it, making Hitlery look like a hopeless tool in the process without even mentioning her name or making any reference to her.  Good job, and no wonder the DUmmtards are enraged!

 :rotf:
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Delmar on August 31, 2016, 05:54:44 PM
What is the deal with all the threads over at DU about the trip being a failure since Trump didn't get Mexico to agree to pay for the wall?

He's not president yet, DUmmies.

Half of their stupid posts over there are about Trump being treasonous for showing up there for a visit and the the other half of the posts are berating him for not getting Mexico to pay for the wall.

Getting them to agree to pay for it can wait until he's sworn in next January.

For now, he's just a candidate.

Patience DUmmies.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: SVPete on August 31, 2016, 06:21:37 PM
He was invited by the president of mexico.  Was he supposed to turn down the invite and risk offending El presidente?

Of course he should have! Easier for Libs & Progs to condemn him for racism.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)Wed Aug 31, 2016, 04:43 PM
exboyfil (6,167 posts)
2. Logan Act violation?

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, 1.) with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or 2.) to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This shtick again? Let me count the narrative fails:

1.) Trump's talks had nothing to do with disputes between the United States and Mexico;

2.) Trump did not meet with the President of Mexico to defeat some effort or policy of BHO (or a previous President).

But don't let me be the one to stop DU-folk from wetting themselves in contemplation and anticipation of this chimera.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: I_B_Perky on August 31, 2016, 07:08:47 PM
The next two months or so ought to be  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on August 31, 2016, 07:40:07 PM
I saw his (And El Presidente's) speeches, I was laughing my ass off because he totally killed it, making Hitlery look like a hopeless tool in the process without even mentioning her name or making any reference to her.  Good job, and no wonder the DUmmtards are enraged!

 :rotf:

It was an excellent speech.

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kentuck (76,417 posts)

Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.


We can hope that he does not create an international incident.

The State Dept did not have time to set up the trip and he went on a whim. Perhaps he thinks he can make some type of political hay before his big speech on immigration tonight?

It's disturbing because it is indicative of what he might do as Commander in Chief. I seriously doubt that he would hesitate at all to send troops into any country that might speak ill of him.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:  You're too stupid, even for the (D)Ump.

He has shown himself to be a loser, no matter how this trip turns out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028135059

I guess the State Department is too busy scolding the media for reporting on terrorism, asswipe.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on August 31, 2016, 07:45:50 PM
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Response to kentuck (Original post)Wed Aug 31, 2016, 04:43 PM
exboyfil (6,167 posts)
2. Logan Act violation?

No, you ****ing idiot.  We've been over and over and over this dozens of times.

Shut.  Up.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: SVPete on August 31, 2016, 08:02:23 PM
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It's disturbing because it is indicative of what he might do as Commander in Chief. I seriously doubt that he would hesitate at all to send troops into any country that might speak ill of him.

OK, ignoring the fact that Trump was invited ... ignoring the fact that Trump was already on the West Coast, making the schedule change less difficult than if he were in other parts of the US ...

How in Hades is travelling to the capital of another country to meet with the country's President even infinitesimally analogous to invading another country? Oh! And did I mention that Trump was invited to do so by Mexico's President?!
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: dutch508 on August 31, 2016, 10:46:19 PM
OMG- they are loosing their minds over Trump's immigration speech and the trip to Mexico.

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Star Member Stinky The Clown (54,774 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028136838

Tonight's suspension of Godwin's Law:

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SummerSnow (7,108 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028136810

Oh my, he really lost the Latino vote.lol

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Lint Head (12,747 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028136764

These people, who Trump is parading out as political fodder, by showcasing their dead children


need to realize that Sandy Hook happened too. Among many more. He is going to save us from something his own party has fought against from the get go. No one's death is any more important than any other to the relatives of the victims. If I was running for office, I would refuse to intentionally use people, who have suffered, as an example of what I could do if i were elected.

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MohRokTah (15,241 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028136628

Trump went hardline, then went further. This is reminiscent of Hitler speeches!!!!


The reaction is the same as Hitler crowds!!!!!

OMFG!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: SVPete on September 01, 2016, 06:48:09 AM
OMG- they are loosing their minds over Trump's immigration speech and the trip to Mexico.

Wow! Trump must've said something REALLY right! Like maybe promising to enforce immigration law?
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Karin on September 01, 2016, 07:54:31 AM
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I seriously doubt that he would hesitate at all to send troops into any country that might speak ill of him.

Kentuck, this is why you're on the DUmmie of the Year award nomination list every year.  We have a picture of you on file, too, and you look like a real mouth breather.  I'll type real slow:  This is not how troop deployment works. 

Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: RayRaytheSBS on September 01, 2016, 02:59:22 PM
Kentuck, this is why you're on the DUmmie of the Year award nomination list every year.  We have a picture of you on file, too, and you look like a real mouth breather.  I'll type real slow:  This is not how troop deployment works. 



'don't stop him,  he's on a roll.' Next thing you know, this mangina will tell us that the Germans bombed pearl harbor.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: ADsOutburst on September 01, 2016, 11:06:24 PM
Wow! Trump must've said something REALLY right! Like maybe promising to enforce immigration law?
Oh man, we gotta stop this megalomaniac before he like, travels to Mexico again, proposes immigration reform, has a stroke from shouting too much, declares World War III, displays American flags, invades China, offends somebody, or like, accidentally steps on a nuke or something.

/DU mode
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: SVPete on September 02, 2016, 06:27:13 AM
Oh man, we gotta stop this megalomaniac before he like, travels to Mexico again, proposes immigration reform, has a stroke from shouting too much, declares World War III, displays American flags, invades China, offends somebody, or like, accidentally steps on a nuke or something.

/DU mode

H-5 for your succinct summary of DU "thought" - some things don't need to be hyperbolized or satirized.

One of GWB's first mistakes as President was not cleaning out more Clinton partisan operatives from the bureaucracy - or neutralizing them if Civil "Service" laws protected them - and leaving Clintonian skeletons closeted. Among the real possibilities I think Libs & Progs fear are that Trump would clean house, and that he would expose as many Obamian skeletons as he could find.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Karin on September 02, 2016, 09:15:33 AM
Holy shit!  How much fun would that be? 
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: SVPete on September 02, 2016, 11:06:48 AM
Holy shit!  How much fun would that be?

It would be like Hercules and the Augean Stables.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on September 02, 2016, 01:36:13 PM
Liberals disgust me. Trump was going to get slammed no matter what he did.

He was invited by the President of Mexico

1) Trump goes - left slams him for screwing up and damaging international relations. Didn't get Mexico to agree to pay for the wall. An overall disaster

2) Trump doesn't go - left slams him for ignoring the President of Mexico and committing an international relations gaff.
Title: Re: Trump's trip is example of his dangerous impulsive behavior.
Post by: SVPete on September 02, 2016, 01:53:27 PM
Liberals disgust me. Trump was going to get slammed no matter what he did.

He was invited by the President of Mexico

1) Trump goes - left slams him for screwing up and damaging international relations. Didn't get Mexico to agree to pay for the wall. An overall disaster

2) Trump doesn't go - left slams him for ignoring the President of Mexico and committing an international relations gaff.

H-5 & precisely! But when one has nothing to lose it's freeing. Trump was free to try to turn a trap - not necessarily intentionally sp on the part of the President of Mexico - against those thinking they could spring the trap on him. And I'd say he was rather successful, given the back-pedaling from The SHREW and the whiny howls from places like DU.