Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 18, 2016, 09:35:58 AM
THREAT OF WAR Fears of all-out conflict in Ukraine as sabre-rattling Vladimir Putin places 40,000 troops and armoured vehicles along the border
The manoeuvres are part of what the Russian strongman sees as the fortification of a new front line with NATO
By COREY CHARLTON
18th August 2016, 10:43 am
AS many as 40,000 Russian troops are massing on the country’s border with Ukraine – prompting fears of a new military invasion.
The Pentagon has identified eight staging areas dotted along the border, suggesting Russian strongman Vladimir Putin is preparing for new incursions.
Among the units deployed to the area are armoured vehicles, tanks and fighter jets.
Navy Captain Danny Hernandez told the Washington Free Beacon that the exercises were being closely monitored.
He said: “We are extremely concerned about the increasing tensions near the administrative boundary between Crimea and the rest of Ukraine.
The rest of this link: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1631749/fears-of-all-out-conflict-in-ukraine-as-sabre-rattling-vladimir-putin-places-40000-troops-and-armoured-vehicles-along-the-border/
Yes, 'interesting times' indeed . . . :whistling: :runaway:
I have heard that Vlad may use the Ukranian Independence Day as the date of invasion. That's next Wednesday, August 24th.
Post by: DLR Pyro on August 18, 2016, 11:28:02 AM
Post by: ADsOutburst on August 18, 2016, 11:35:33 AM
Don't worry. obama is formulating his strategy from a golf course in Martha's Vinyard.Unfortunately, it's his strategy for the golf course.
Post by: Eupher on August 18, 2016, 11:39:01 AM
And Vlad knows it.
Barry has done more to embolden our enemies than anyone in our history. He is America's Chamberlain. :whatever:
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 18, 2016, 06:34:29 PM
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 23, 2016, 10:12:06 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/703068/German-conscription-Angela-Merkel-defence-plan-protect-NATO
Post by: Eupher on August 23, 2016, 11:08:31 AM
Post by: FlaGator on August 23, 2016, 12:13:28 PM
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 23, 2016, 01:08:56 PM
The question is who would you rather have controlling Europe the Muslims or the Russians?
Given those two . . . Putin, definitely.
Post by: Eupher on August 23, 2016, 04:06:20 PM
Given those two . . . Putin, definitely.
Yup. While Putin is essentially a hardline communist, he's not so wrapped up in dogma that he can't be approached. He and Hillary are exactly alike -- they're fundamentally after power and the money that goes along with that.
Post by: ItsTeaTime on September 11, 2016, 11:26:18 AM
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2016, 09:02:03 AM
The question is who would you rather have controlling Europe the Muslims or the Russians?
Neither.
Post by: Big Dog on September 16, 2016, 09:29:39 AM
Putin needs to be stopped.
OK, new guy. Defend your statement.
How?
Which country shall the US invade? Which Russian cities shall the US bomb?
Should the CIA assassinate Putin? Send infected hookers to Russia to give him AIDS? Contaminate his supply of tiger blood?
Or should our government complain to the United Nations, send a strongly worded letter, or start a Twitter campaign?
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2016, 09:57:31 AM
OK, new guy. Defend your statement.
How?
Which country shall the US invade? Which Russian cities shall the US bomb?
Should the CIA assassinate Putin? Send infected hookers to Russia to give him AIDS? Contaminate his supply of tiger blood?
Or should our government complain to the United Nations, send a strongly worded letter, or start a Twitter campaign?
Not trying to speak for the n00b...but stopping Putin doesn't have to automatically equate to invading Russia or having him taken out with a CIA wet works team.
Putin is exploiting a weakness in the U.S. and it's foreign policy right now. He sees us withdrawing forces in Europe cutting our military to pre WWII levels and he knows that the moves he's made so far...with the current Administration...won't be stopped.
He knows that any "red line" ultimatum we give about his aggressive moves in Eastern Europe are impotent.
If anything all we have done when he invaded the Crimea and the Ukraine was exactly what you're mocking the new guy about...we ran to the U.N. and cried.
He's got more troops and equipment massed around the Ukraine than we have in total in Europe. And Obama is trying to make USAREUR even smaller before he leaves office.
All we have permanently stationed in Europe right now in the way of land fighting forces is a Cavalry Brigade and a Light Infantry Brigade. That's it.
If we want to stop Putin and prevent him from acquiring any more of the former USSR than we already have...we need to put forces back in place in Europe that we've taken away. Pre positioning equipment and rotating units in looks nice for the media and helps logistically when you need to train stateside soldiers over in Europe...but from a tactical standpoint Putin has us by the short hairs and he knows it.
If it were me...I'd put at least one division and a heave brigade permanently back either Germany or Poland. Return the attack helicopter battalion to the Aviation Brigade in Germany and return at least two fighter wings to Europe...again in either Germany or Poland. I'd also start having our Bomber groups return to rotating in to Europe for training like we used to do.
On the political side...I'd start offering the European countries that get there Natural Gas from Gazprom a better deal if they buy from the U.S. Putin pays for his war machine from oil and gas profits. He's got most of Eastern Europe living in fear of having their gas supplies cut off if the oppose him. Lets take that bullet away from him.
Secondly I'd push...HARD to get the NATO countries to adhere to their obligation to put 2% of their GDP towards defense. IIRC none of the countries outside of the U.S....except maybe England is even coming close to doing that.
That is how you stop Putin.
Post by: Big Dog on September 16, 2016, 11:23:03 AM
Not trying to speak for the n00b
Well, you saved him the trouble of explaining his position.
Disregard, new guy.
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2016, 11:32:41 AM
Well, you saved him the trouble of explaining his position.He can still give his vision of how to stop him.
Disregard, new guy.
Hell for all you and I know he may be FOR invading Russia.
I...in my normal fashion jumped into the conversation feet first
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Post by: Big Dog on September 16, 2016, 12:14:37 PM
He can still give his vision of how to stop him.
Hell for all you and I know he may be FOR invading Russia.
I...in my normal fashion jumped into the conversation feet first
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I think the best way to stop Vladimir Putin from doing anything* is to give him a tiger and a box of condoms.
*except screwing tigers.