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Title: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: FaC on August 08, 2016, 06:24:26 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028081681

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cali (114,025 posts)

I may be in a small minority here, but I'm sorry as hell about Wikileaks.

Last edited Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:52 PM - Edit history (1)

It's Julian Assange's private fiefdom. It allows for no input, no review. It's the opposite of wiki anything:

wi·ki

/ˈwikē/

noun

noun: wiki; plural noun: wikis

a website that allows collaborative editing of its content and structure by its users.


I was always wary of Assange because he came off as authoritarian to me, but I appreciated WikiLeaks' early work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks

Now Assange has decided to intervene in the U.S. Presidential election to benefit Trump. He may have said, today, that they're both equally awful, but he's lying. He's laying off Trump. He won't go after him on taxes or his foundation.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/08/06/wikileaks_denies_it_is_trying_to_hack_trump_s_tax_returns.html

Along with others, Assange created WikiLeaks.

Now, singlehandedly, he's destroyed it. And he's been doing that for years, but this shit? It's a nail in the coffin.

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It allows for no input, no review.
Doesn't  www.democraticunderground.com has a very similar approach to their content???

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cali  Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore   Tue Mar-01-11 05:43 PM
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13. well, that was my first thought. having said that, there's no doubt in my mind
that Assange is a bit unhinged. Not that that obviates in any way, what Wikileaks does.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x535741

^^^ A previous thought from the good cali on Wikileaks....


We now return to this week's trashing of wikileaks

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bloom (11,325 posts)
1. We could start calling them Ass-leaks n/t

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VMA131Marine (373 posts)
2. Assange is not American

So it's unreasonable to expect he'd have any loyalty to the US. Indeed, he seems to be actively undermining our government. As the saying goes: "In chaos, there is opportunity."

^^^ To DUmmies this seemed to be a feature when Assange was publishing the material from Bradly Manning...

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4now (1,055 posts)
3. It seems we just can't trust a rapist

who is hiding out from justice to do the right thing.

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LAGC  Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore   Sat Aug-21-10 05:51 AM
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1. There's been several other threads about this already.
Clearly a Pentagon/CIA-orchestrated misinformation campaign aimed at taking him down.

They couldn't get at him any other way, they figured they'd try to ruin his reputation with false "rape" allegations.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8988010

^^^ Last I heard from DU the rape charges were trumped up to get Assange. When did that change?

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Hekate (37,036 posts)
7. I didn't know WikiLeaks was going down, but after collaborating in messing with a US election...

...and only on the side of a fascist psychopath
-- I will not be sorry in the least if the whole shebang evaporates in a cloud of pixels.

^^^ It would be perfectly ok if Assange was on the side of Hillary

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Star Member cali (114,025 posts)
17. For me the point is about WikiLeaks having gone down the tubes due to his hubris

^^^ Please. You know that if Assange was digging up and publishing crap about Trump you would have tingles up your legs and be standing there cheering about the public service he was providing.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 08, 2016, 07:00:54 AM
They're as predictable as gravity.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: SVPete on August 08, 2016, 07:12:48 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028081681
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... You know that if Assange was digging up and publishing crap about Trump you would have tingles up your legs and be standing there cheering about the public service he was providing.

DU-folk are not concerned with facts. The SHREW could be caught in bed with a dead woman and a live boy and still get their votes.

Assange seems to me like the Black Dwarfs in C. S. Lewis's The Last Battle: "The dwarfs are for the dwarfs"; attacking either sides when it threatens to win. Not many DU-folk would be familiar with that literary simile.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on August 08, 2016, 07:21:00 AM
DU-folk are not concerned with facts. The SHREW could be caught in bed with a dead woman and a live boy and still get their votes.

Assange seems to me like the Black Dwarfs in C. S. Lewis's The Last Battle: "The dwarfs are for the dwarfs"; attacking either sides when it threatens to win. Not many DU-folk would be familiar with that literary simile.
Not many DU-folk would be familiar with the word simile.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: Duke Nukum on August 08, 2016, 07:43:10 AM
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4now (1,055 posts)
3. It seems we just can't trust a rapist

who is hiding out from justice to do the right thing.

Hillary aided and abetted her rapist husband for their entire careers.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: Bad Dog on August 08, 2016, 09:05:47 AM
Setting themselves up for an "I told you so" if he DUmps the October surprise he is promising. 
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: DLR Pyro on August 08, 2016, 09:54:08 AM
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I was always wary of Assange because he came off as authoritarian to me, but I appreciated WikiLeaks' early work.


Now Assange has decided to intervene in the U.S. Presidential election to benefit Trump.

 
Sort of sounds like you were for wikileaks before you were against it, right DUmmy?

Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 08, 2016, 11:22:00 AM
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VMA131Marine (373 posts)
2. Assange is not American

So it's unreasonable to expect he'd have any loyalty to the US. Indeed, he seems to be actively undermining our government. As the saying goes: "In chaos, there is opportunity."

DUmmie accidentally trips over the truth, shakes it off, and walks on without noticing.  Assange is a Discordian, or perhaps what would amount to a particular flavor of anarchist or extreme Libertarian.  Anti-establishment no matter whether the establishment styles itself as Left, Right, Center, Fascist, Socialist/Social Democrat, Prog, or whatever, no matter what the social environment or external threat, it's all about the individual ego with no recognition of any need for constraints upon will.  And like all of them (When it comes down to brass tacks), his will counts for a wee bit more than anyone else's, otherwise he wouldn't be in hot water on those sex allegations.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: USA4ME on August 08, 2016, 11:47:36 AM
The old bitter Vermontese primitive is just sucking up to the primitives to re-establish her street cred since she returned from being a jackal.

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Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on August 08, 2016, 10:04:54 PM
They're as predictable as gravity.

Embarrassingly, so.

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I was always wary of Assange because he came off as authoritarian to me, but I appreciated WikiLeaks' early work.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

.....which seemed to just always go your way, ass.

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VMA131Marine   Oh, really? :whatever: (373 posts)
2. Assange is not American

So it's unreasonable to expect he'd have any loyalty to the US. Indeed, he seems to be actively undermining our government. As the saying goes: "In chaos, there is opportunity."

That's a problem!?!?!  You slobs masturbate over, just that, every day. 

 :bird: shit bird.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 11, 2016, 12:23:55 PM
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The SHREW could be caught in bed with a dead woman and a live boy and still get their votes.

Considering Clinton morality, no one would be that surprised.

She'd still be a better choice than the orange lunatic.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 11, 2016, 12:37:02 PM
Considering Clinton morality, no one would be that surprised.

She'd still be a better choice than the orange lunatic.

Not unless you are angling for a job in a Federal regulating agency.

Aside from the judicial appointments, there is also the problem that every Democrat in the House and Senate would back her to the hilt, no matter how brain-damaged, senile, corrupt, or authoritarian she gets (Or already is), and her first Supreme Court appointment will tip that in her favor beyond recovery.  Many Republicans won't support Trump even if he tells them sun shines in the daytime, so it's only the Hilbot that represents an actual structural threat to our system of checks and balances.

That's aside from policy problems with her, such as the fact she would have to redouble the national debt in four years to enact her social agenda, and with so many favors to repay the money boys that's likely to be pretty ugly for everyone on top of a cyclical recession being overdue, and the fact that everything she's ever exercised her fecal touch on in foreign policy has actually made things somewhere between 'Much worse' to 'Disastrously worse.' 
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 11, 2016, 12:43:21 PM
Not unless you are angling for a job in a Federal regulating agency.

Aside from the judicial appointments, there is also the problem that every Democrat in the House and Senate would back her to the hilt, no matter how brain-damaged, senile, corrupt, or authoritarian she gets (Or already is), and her first Supreme Court appointment will tip that in her favor beyond recovery.  Many Republicans won't support Trump even if he tells them sun shines in the daytime, so it's only the Hilbot that represents an actual structural threat to our system of checks and balances.

That's aside from policy problems with her, such as the fact she would have to redouble the national debt in four years to enact her social agenda, and with so many favors to repay the money boys that's likely to be pretty ugly for everyone on top of a cyclical recession being overdue, and the fact that everything she's ever exercised her fecal touch on in foreign policy has actually made things somewhere between 'Much worse' to 'Disastrously worse.'

H5.

There's this link, too (direct to AP, so I shouldn't quote it) . . .

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/cbcc46c385f04a269c051ef0fb3446fb/some-great-leaders-had-mental-illness-it-may-have-helped
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: Carl on August 11, 2016, 12:45:32 PM
Not unless you are angling for a job in a Federal regulating agency.

Aside from the judicial appointments, there is also the problem that every Democrat in the House and Senate would back her to the hilt, no matter how brain-damaged, senile, corrupt, or authoritarian she gets (Or already is), and her first Supreme Court appointment will tip that in her favor beyond recovery.  Many Republicans won't support Trump even if he tells them sun shines in the daytime, so it's only the Hilbot that represents an actual structural threat to our system of checks and balances.

That's aside from policy problems with her, such as the fact she would have to redouble the national debt in four years to enact her social agenda, and with so many favors to repay the money boys that's likely to be pretty ugly for everyone on top of a cyclical recession being overdue, and the fact that everything she's ever exercised her fecal touch on in foreign policy has actually made things somewhere between 'Much worse' to 'Disastrously worse.'

I fear that the DC establishment sorts think they have struck a grand bargain with her to protect their positions by pushing her election.
In return I am guessing that her people have insinuated she won`t push really left wing agendas or appointments.

On Jan 21st when the DC GOP leaders extend their hand to confirm the good faith arrangement she will bite it off and spit it back in their faces.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: wasp69 on August 11, 2016, 01:04:35 PM
On Jan 21st when the DC GOP leaders extend their hand to confirm the good faith arrangement she will bite it off and spit it back in their faces.

Which is pretty much standard practice that us rank and file conservative voters have become so used to...
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: wasp69 on August 11, 2016, 01:05:08 PM
Not unless you are angling for a job in a Federal regulating agency.

Pearls before swine, DAT.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: wasp69 on August 11, 2016, 01:05:56 PM
Considering Clinton morality, no one would be that surprised.

She'd still be a better choice than the orange lunatic.

The voice of the GOPe for Clinton camp has spoken.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 12, 2016, 10:43:42 AM
The voice of the GOPe for Clinton camp has spoken.

Clinton is no different from the likes of Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, or Chris Christie.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 12, 2016, 11:01:12 AM
The voice of the GOPe for Clinton camp has spoken.

If that witch gets in and gets enough of Congress to go along with her, the tax bill for anyone earning more than about $50K is going up pretty seriously.  The chances of getting Congress to go along with the free college thing aren't so great, though, so I give that one a somewhat lower chance of happening.  She owes enough favors to big money that I don't see her getting all that much more revenue out of the top 10% after all the special cut-outs and favors play out, it's the middle and upper-middle classes that are going to take it right in the ass.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: wasp69 on August 12, 2016, 05:48:10 PM
If that witch gets in and gets enough of Congress to go along with her, the tax bill for anyone earning more than about $50K is going up pretty seriously.  The chances of getting Congress to go along with the free college thing aren't so great, though, so I give that one a somewhat lower chance of happening.  She owes enough favors to big money that I don't see her getting all that much more revenue out of the top 10% after all the special cut-outs and favors play out, it's the middle and upper-middle classes that are going to take it right in the ass.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that but, hey, Trump sucks, or something.
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: Carl on August 12, 2016, 06:13:46 PM
Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that but, hey, Trump sucks, or something.

Or will appoint a Lawrence Tribe marxist with a deal made for Ginsburg to retire so a twofer on the SCOTUS.

But Gary Johnson that is for amnesty,is pro baby killing,likes Breyer as a justice is the true conservative.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Julian Assange/Wikileaks goes from fair haired boy to evil VRWC tool
Post by: Bad Dog on August 16, 2016, 10:48:27 AM
Or will appoint a Lawrence Tribe marxist with a deal made for Ginsburg to retire so a twofer on the SCOTUS.

But Gary Johnson that is for amnesty,is pro baby killing,likes Breyer as a justice is the true conservative.  :whatever:

But, Gary did say he will stop using pot while in the WH.  FEEL THE JOHNSON!!!!!