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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on July 19, 2016, 07:29:52 AM
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Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:54 PM
Dawgs (14,685 posts)
With an unstoppable global warming, overpopulation, and food and water shortages.
Why do people continue to have a children, or be happy when the hear someone they know is pregnant?
It always makes me so sad.
Just man up and remove yourself from the population you despise.
Response to Dawgs (Original post)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:05 PM
Throd (7,021 posts)
17. Should I apologize to my children for having them?
Doom Underground
You are a leftist mongrel,you want to apologize for everything.
Response to Throd (Reply #17)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:49 PM
Dawgs (14,685 posts)
24. You can do whatever you want.
I know I would apologize to mine.
Bet Christmas is a happy time in your house.
Response to Dawgs (Original post)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:15 PM
Rex (62,733 posts)
22. We got a long way to go before we overpopulate the planet.
Food and water shortages can be fixed, but we are greedy by nature so that is probably out. Nobody is going to fix global warming, it evidently eats into the bottom line.
What makes me sad is that we live in an advanced age where we can wipe out famine, but it cost money and nobody wants to pony up. We could also at least reduce green house gases, but that too would mean ponying up money. Never happen.
All Rex wants is for people to pony up for his free shit.
Response to Dawgs (Original post)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 04:24 PM
skip fox (14,673 posts)
31. I have 4 grandchildren who I love.
But I see the world doomed as well. The 6th major extinction event will likely include us.
Perhaps we not yet have crossed the final line of no return, but I don't sense we have the political will to change our course of direction.
The one item that has the ability to change climate deniers' minds (those not ideological, crazy, or in the pocket of the petroleum industry) is the fact the 97.1% of the relevant scientists agree that climate change is occurring, that it is man-made, and that it is extremely dangerous for our species.
Ask deniers how hard it is to get even 60% of people to agree on anything. Then consider that a majority of these scientists dedicated their lives to the discovery of physical truths in their adolescents.
Ask deniers if 97.1% of such dedicated people would fudge their research and predictions simply to gain tenure or obtain grants.
By the way, the 97.1% number is on the NASA website:
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
I love my grandchildren and celebrate each child born, but . . .
:yawn:
Response to Dawgs (Original post)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 04:39 PM
Star Member Auggie (21,350 posts)
36. I felt that way 30 years ago, Dawgs
Climate change was yet to be an issue, but overpopulation wasn't.
The irony escapes you.
Response to Dawgs (Original post)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 05:06 PM
Star Member LWolf (45,008 posts)
42. Because
life, new life, affirms our existence and infuses us with hope and energy. That's why people get happy.
That said, I certainly think that global warming, food and water shortages, species decline, and other ills are due to overpopulation. I'd love nothing more than to see human population decline to more manageable levels across the globe. It's the dark side of reproductive choice, to allow people to reproduce irresponsibly. Still, I don't think forced birth limits is a viable long-term solution.
For the U.S., I favor flipping the tax code. Deductibles and tax breaks for those who do not produce biological children; smaller benefits for those who produce 1, no benefits but no extra taxes for those who produce two, and a carbon tax, growing larger with each child, for every child after two.
You would kill off your voting base.
Response to Dawgs (Original post)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 05:19 PM
riderinthestorm (22,490 posts)
45. The planet's in it's 11th hour
We need aggressive, bold action on this, not incrementalism.
I grieve for my children's future. Climate and environmental catastrophic events are already upon us. Our window of opportunity for any effective action is 5 years or less according to forecasts.
Grab me another beer.
Then a freak surfaces.
Response to Dawgs (Original post)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:15 PM
undergroundpanther (11,871 posts)
63. it makes me sad too
I wonder how they can even think of having kids. we will have nothing but a polluted
Ravaged. Dead.hollowed out violent world for them. I think having kids thse days
Is a selfish thing.double selfish if you do not treat them with respect and prepare them
For the rough reality they will be dealing with in the future honestly.
Says a lunatic with the carbon footprint of a village.
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I see that the UP has its' computer privileges back at the asylum . . . :whistling:
And, lurking DUmmies, if you're so worried about overpopulation, make your own carbon footprint zero!
Here's how to do it properly . . .
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/73/11/f6/7311f6449a3b240e82b471af83c05850.jpg)
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Have I got a solution for "Dawgs" and his crew! (http://www.vhemt.org/) Please! Go ahead! Show us how it's done!
50 years ago Paul Ehrlich and the Enviro-Movement proclaimed that mankind's struggle to feed itself was over and lost. Mass famines were predicted for the 1970s - 100s of millions would starve to death. Did. Not. Happen. But Libs & Progs evidently haven't learned from their failure.
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Star Member LWolf (45,008 posts)
42. Because
life, new life, affirms our existence and infuses us with hope and energy. That's why people get happy.
That said, I certainly think that global warming, food and water shortages, species decline, and other ills are due to overpopulation. I'd love nothing more than to see human population decline to more manageable levels across the globe. It's the dark side of reproductive choice, to allow people to reproduce irresponsibly. Still, I don't think forced birth limits is a viable long-term solution.
For the U.S., I favor flipping the tax code. Deductibles and tax breaks for those who do not produce biological children; smaller benefits for those who produce 1, no benefits but no extra taxes for those who produce two, and a carbon tax, growing larger with each child, for every child after two.
I do not think this DUmmie realizes which group this would adversely affect and I do not mean Catholics.
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I do not think this DUmmie realizes which group this would adversely affect and I do not mean Catholics.
The group that diminishes its numbers through abortions, perhaps?
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The group that diminishes its numbers through abortions, perhaps?
DING! DING! DING!
We have a winner! H5!
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For the U.S., I favor flipping the tax code. Deductibles and tax breaks for those who do not produce biological children; smaller benefits for those who produce 1, no benefits but no extra taxes for those who produce two, and a carbon tax, growing larger with each child, for every child after two.
Except for a slight update, that was a "brilliant" idea ca. 1970.
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Ask deniers if 97.1% of such dedicated people would fudge their research and predictions simply to gain tenure or obtain grants.
A most emphatic YES. And your 97.1% of "relevant" scientists is bullshit too. I like how that qualifier was snuck in there. You're only "relevant" if you agree with the climate bullshit to keep your funding flowing in.
I would have thought subway cat would have offed herself a long time ago. She's still just as miserable as ever.
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Response to Dawgs (Original post)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:15 PM
undergroundpanther (11,871 posts)
we will have nothing but a polluted Ravaged. Dead.hollowed out violent world for them.
This, folks, is what happens when one is under the impression the whole nation is like LA NYC or Boston.
CMD
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Rex (62,733 posts)
22. We got a long way to go before we overpopulate the planet.
Food and water shortages can be fixed, but we are greedy by nature so that is probably out. Nobody is going to fix global warming, it evidently eats into the bottom line.
What makes me sad is that we live in an advanced age where we can wipe out famine, but it cost money and nobody wants to pony up. We could also at least reduce green house gases, but that too would mean ponying up money. Never happen.
Science has made it possible to feed most of the world's population with ease. Unfortunately, the left and environmentalists prefer that impoverished people die than be fed with "FrankenFoods".
GMO's have been banned in many places since the left doesn't believe in science.
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Science has made it possible to feed most of the world's population with ease. Unfortunately, the left and environmentalists prefer that impoverished people die than be fed with "FrankenFoods".
That and getting rid of socialist kleptocracies will go a long way to end starvation in the 3rd world.
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... we can wipe out famine, but it cost money and nobody wants to pony up.
He almost had me with the first half of this sentence, but then he skidded off and crashed into this tree. The problem is not $$, the problem is governments that created famines to further their purposes. Stalin did it in Ukraine. Mao did it in China. Ethiopia did it in the late 70s-early 80s. Kim II & Kim III have done it (and maybe Kim I did, too). Sudan did it in Darfur. Just off the top of my head ...
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He almost had me with the first half of this sentence, but then he skidded off and crashed into this tree. The problem is not $$, the problem is governments that created famines to further their purposes. Stalin did it in Ukraine. Mao did it in China. Ethiopia did it in the late 70s-early 80s. Kim II & Kim III have done it (and maybe Kim I did, too). Sudan did it in Darfur. Just off the top of my head ...
The government in Venezuela is working on it.
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Response to Dawgs (Original post)
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:38 PM
Star Member Starry Messenger (31,205 posts)
129. Another Malthusian.
Resources are being wasted and distributed poorly. The problem isn't children, it's hoarding.
As in hoarding/stockpiling ammo and handloading components (smokeless powder and primers)?
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He almost had me with the first half of this sentence, but then he skidded off and crashed into this tree. The problem is not $$, the problem is governments that created famines to further their purposes. Stalin did it in Ukraine. Mao did it in China. Ethiopia did it in the late 70s-early 80s. Kim II & Kim III have done it (and maybe Kim I did, too). Sudan did it in Darfur. Just off the top of my head ...
The government in Venezuela is working on it.
All the above senecios brought about by the very types of government these mongrels worship and praise. :mental:
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The government in Venezuela is working on it.
A food desert, on a national scale, unlike the smaller urban ones that most primitives inhabit
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The problem isn't children, it's hoarding.
Ah, yes! The magic H-Word that Stalin used to take away farmers' seed that was to be planted for the following year's crop - no seed, no crop, no food, starvation. The magic H-Word that Ethiopia used to take away farmers' seed that was to be planted for the following year's crop - no seed, no crop, no food, starvation.
Venezuela is "fixing" their problems by nationalizing everything in sight, and then paying workers with "money" the government is swiftly printing into worthlessness, Zimbabwe-style. They'll soon learn, as did the Soviets, that collective farms are very unproductive.
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Have I got a solution for "Dawgs" and his crew! (http://www.vhemt.org/) Please! Go ahead! Show us how it's done!
50 years ago Paul Ehrlich and the Enviro-Movement proclaimed that mankind's struggle to feed itself was over and lost. Mass famines were predicted for the 1970s - 100s of millions would starve to death. Did. Not. Happen. But Libs & Progs evidently haven't learned from their failure.
Unfortunately they never quit... and they are always wrong in their predictions.
Currently in this land of starvation what is the number one health problem? Obesity!!!! The Fat Kitty Kat is example number one. That feline ain't missed too many meals and if she has missed one, she made up for it on the next two.
I have a good idea for you econazi dummies:
Want to lessen the population dummies? Cut out the EBT cards, section 8 housing, and welfare. First winter up north in the paradises of NYC, Philly, DC and Baltimore and I guaran-damn-tee you that would cut the population in half in those cities by spring. At the very least the obesity problem will be fixed.
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Every prediction of doom and gloom the Libs have ever made has turned out to be absolutely incorrect.
Yet they can't help themselves by repeating their behavior.