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Title: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: CC27 on June 29, 2016, 04:29:36 PM
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MineralMan (85,366 posts)

Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention?


I expect that he will not. He has staunchly defended being an Independent Senator for many years, and ran as a Democrat for President, primarily because he would not have gained the same traction as an Independent, Green, or Democratic Socialist candidate. But why would he abandon his Independent status after the convention, which will end his chances of being the Democratic Party nominee?

I don't see any reason for him to run as a Democrat in 2018 to keep his Senate seat. He has never needed that party membership to be elected in the past. So, my guess is that, if he decides to run for another term, he does so with Independent status. I'm sure he'll still vote with the Democratic Caucus, as he has almost always done in the past, but a formal change of his status as Senator isn't really a requirement.

That he is not succeeding in pushing the Democratic Party Platform much in his direction is another thing that is likely to influence his decision. The platform will not reflect his views precisely, since the apparent nominee has more influence in it and wants to keep it more general in nature, rather than calling for specific actions in some areas.

Senator Sander's reluctance to strongly endorse Hillary Clinton's candidacy may also be an indication that he intends to return to his independent Democratic Socialism stance following the convention. I have zero problem with this. His voice in the Senate has been a strong one and he has succeeded in bending legislation to the left with his amendments. I hope he will run again in Vermont for that seat when his current term expires.

He has stated that he will vote for Clinton in November. That may well be his endorsement, in the end, and it is politically sufficient, really. I don't see him as a strong campaigner for her election, since he is generally not willing to speak in favor of anything that is not in line with his positions. His primary campaign supporters, too, will probably vote for Clinton, but with somewhat less enthusiasm. That's fine, too. A few may do otherwise, but a few might do otherwise, regardless of the outcome.

In any case, I encourage Bernie Sanders to do as he thinks best and as best suits his positions. That he will vote for Hillary is not surprising, and is endorsement enough for me.

That's my opinion. Others might hold different opinions.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512225100

Will look who is back after six days with no internet while visiting his parents. Wonder who missed him?  :whatever:
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on June 29, 2016, 04:30:53 PM
Will look who is back after six days with no internet while visiting his parents. Wonder who missed him?  :whatever:

Was he gone?
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: landofconfusion80 on June 29, 2016, 07:42:20 PM
I think bernie is more concerned about seeing the end of july than seeing any of 2018

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Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on June 30, 2016, 07:00:50 AM
I think bernie is more concerned about seeing the end of july than seeing any of 2018

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From natural causes or Clintoncide?
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 30, 2016, 07:06:05 AM
Clintoncide

Great term!  H5!
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: landofconfusion80 on June 30, 2016, 07:21:22 AM
From natural causes or Clintoncide?
Don't think it matters. When you hit crypt keeper status they just shrug and nudge you into the hole with their toe

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Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: diesel driver on June 30, 2016, 07:53:46 AM
Don't think it matters. When you hit crypt keeper status they just shrug and nudge you into the hole with their toe

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I'd use a shovel.   :rotf:
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 30, 2016, 08:31:25 AM
I'd use a shovel.   :rotf:

I think it'll be a BYOB party, myself . . .

Bring Your Own Backhoe
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: diesel driver on June 30, 2016, 10:01:24 AM
I think it'll be a BYOB party, myself . . .

Bring Your Own Backhoe

I got one of those.  1959 International 460.  Looks rough but runs like a top!   :II:
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: landofconfusion80 on June 30, 2016, 02:22:06 PM
I got one of those.  1959 International 460.  Looks rough but runs like a top!   :II:
That gives me hope for my 80s something jd 850 tractor

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Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: FlaGator on June 30, 2016, 02:23:25 PM
He'll go back to sleep and climb out of his coffin in about 4 years.
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: thundley4 on June 30, 2016, 03:57:30 PM
Don't think it matters. When you hit crypt keeper status they just shrug and nudge you into the hole with their toe


Bernie looks and acts downright spry and like a spring chicken compared to how Bill Clinton looks.

Personally, I think Bill is going to kick the bucket right before the election to give Hillary the sympathy vote. Of course she will be across the country from him when it happens.    :whatever:
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 30, 2016, 08:28:07 PM
Bernie looks and acts downright spry and like a spring chicken compared to how Bill Clinton looks.

Personally, I think Bill is going to kick the bucket right before the election to give Hillary the sympathy vote. Of course she will be across the country from him when it happens.    :whatever:

Hillary sounded like she has lung cancer last time I saw her bloviating on the TV.  I expect her to get the nomination and then withdraw due to her "illness". Which will occur two days after she gets indicted. 

Who knew munching rug would give someone lung cancer.   :lmao:

Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: Chris_ on June 30, 2016, 08:31:04 PM
Who knew munching rug would give someone lung cancer.   :lmao:
See what happens when you keep shoving cigars up there?
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: SVPete on July 01, 2016, 06:07:38 AM
He'll go back to sleep and climb out of his coffin in about 4 years.

Exactly! The Bern will be voting "D" forever, early and often!
Title: Re: Will Bernie Sanders remain a Democrat after the Convention? Mineralman
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on July 01, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
See what happens when you keep shoving cigars up there?

Yes, but those cigars have a flavor that's, presidential.