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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: txradioguy on June 12, 2016, 07:35:22 AM
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BREAKING NEWS – Authorities in Florida said at a news conference Sunday morning that “as many as 20 people died†in a shooting at an Orlando nightclub. The gunman was killed.
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said at least 42 people have been transported to area hospitals.
The Florida Department of Law Enforcement said officials are investigating the shooting as an “act of terrorism,†but it was unclear whether it was domestic or international terrorism, or if the shooter was a lone wolf.
Mina said officers were called to Pulse Orlando, a popular gay nightclub, at around 2 a.m. after reports of a shooting. He said officers were engaged in a gun battle outside the club before the suspect went back into the building where more shots were fired. He said the gunman then took several hostages.
About three hours later, Mina said officials made the decision to rescue the hostages in the club. He said SWAT officers exchanged fire with the gunman and killed him.
Mina said the suspect was found with some kind of assault rifle on the suspect along with a handgun and some kind of device on him. Officials stopped short of saying it was a bomb and were still investigating whether it was something real or a hoax device.
Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer credited law enforcement with saving more lives by their heroic efforts.
“Many were saved by the heroic efforts of the Orlando Police Department and Orange County Sheriff’s Office,†he said.
Orlando Police said a controlled explosion did take place, Mina said they used the sound as a diversion.
Officials said the next update will take place at 9 a.m. Police said local, state and federal agencies were investigating.
Witnesses in the club reported mass chaos after hearing several shots ring out inside the nightclub.
Pulse Orlando posted on its own Facebook page around 2 a.m.: "Everyone get out of pulse and keep running." Just before 6 a.m., the club posted an update: "As soon as we have any information we will update everyone. Please keep everyone in your prayers as we work through this tragic event. Thank you for your thoughts and love."
Mina Justice was outside the club early Sunday trying to contact her 30-year-old son Eddie, who texted her when the shooting happened and asked her to call police. He told her he ran into a bathroom with other club patrons to hide. He then texted her: "He's coming."
"The next text said: 'He has us, and he's in here with us,'" she said. "That was the last conversation."
Jon Alamo said he was at the back of one of the club's rooms when a man holding a weapon came into the front of the room.
"I heard 20, 40, 50 shots," Alamo said. "The music stopped."
Club-goer Rob Rick said it happened around, 2 a.m., just before closing time.
"Everybody was drinking their last sip," he said.
He estimated more than 100 people were still inside when he heard shots, got on the ground and crawled toward a DJ booth. A bouncer knocked down a partition between the club area and an area in the back where only workers are allowed. People inside were able to then escape through the back of the club.
Christopher Hansen said he was in the VIP lounge when he started hearing gunshots. He continued to hear shooting even after he emerged, where police were telling people to back away from the club. He saw injured people being tended to across the street.
"I was thinking, are you kidding me? So I just dropped down. I just said please, please, please, I want to make it out," he said. "And when I did, I saw people shot. I saw blood. You hope and pray you don't get shot."
The incident follows the fatal shooting late Friday of 22-year-old singer Christina Grimmie, who was killed after her concert in Orlando by a 27-year-old Florida man who later killed himself. Grimmie was a YouTube sensation and former contestant on "The Voice."
Police said there was no more threat to the area.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/police-say-around-20-killed-in-shooting-at-orlando-nightclub-more-than-40-taken-to-local-hospitals.html?intcmp=hpbt1
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Only mentions on the dump are just as expected... this is still about guns according to the primitives. Geez... what a nightmare. I guess the solution is to up our numbers and bring in more "refugees" and open the border more so as to appease them and not make them angrier. Oh wait, gun contol, I forgot.
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Only mentions on the dump are just as expected... this is still about guns according to the primitives. Geez... what a nightmare. I guess the solution is to up our numbers and bring in more "refugees" and open the border more so as to appease them and not make them angrier. Oh wait, gun contol, I forgot.
Don't worry FZ, once DU folk catch on to the realities that gun control laws would not have had any effect and that the killer was (apparently) motivated by Islam, they'll move on to diversions claiming that Fundie Christians are just as bad, want to kill gays, enslave women, and set up a theocracy ... and other nonsense so lame TMN can lead the rhetorical charge.
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So any mention from the DUmp that the shooter was muslim and a registered demoNcrat?
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From CBS News: (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pulse-nightclub-shooting-orlando/)
A U.S. intelligence source told CBS news senior investigative producer Pat Milton that Islamic terrorism is being investigated as a possible motive in the shooting due to several indicators including the style of the attack, which had similarities to the attacks in Paris in November 2015 and Brussels in March. ...
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Don't worry FZ, once DU folk catch on to the realities that gun control laws would not have had any effect and that the killer was (apparently) motivated by Islam, they'll move on to diversions claiming that Fundie Christians are just as bad, want to kill gays, enslave women, and set up a theocracy ... and other nonsense so lame TMN can lead the rhetorical charge.
Too bad you didn't find someone to take your bet. Here it is already:
"Law enforcement sources told CBS News the gunman has been identified as Omar Mateen, a U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie. Mateen was born to Afghan parents in 1986. CBS News reports Mateen has no apparent criminal history and that authorities are investigating whether he had ties to Islamic terrorism."
Would have passed any imaginable "comprehensive background check" ever pimped by the left.
source: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/12/orlando-nightclub-shooting/
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Omar Mateen is registered to vote.
http://flvoters.com/by_number/1144/84524_omar_mir_seddique_mateen.html
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Omar Mateen is registered to vote.
http://flvoters.com/by_number/1144/84524_omar_mir_seddique_mateen.html
Say it ain't so...
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FZ, criminals have almost no problems getting guns, because they're criminals. They don't use legal means and sources. No gun control law will eliminate those sources. Gun control laws only hinder law-abiding citizens' self-defense and other legal usages.
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Omar Mateen is registered to vote.
http://flvoters.com/by_number/1144/84524_omar_mir_seddique_mateen.html
Mateen is a D? Then the shooting is obviously Trump's fault! Because Trump exists!!!
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Now up to 50 casualties. No differentiation yet as to 50 killed--yet.
ETA: FNC is now saying 50 dead, 53 wounded.
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I'll give CBS News this much credit. Their headline for the article I linked and quoted above is, "Islamic terrorism tie eyed in Orlando gay bar shooting". They didn't euphemize the possible Islamic terrorism tie.
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Now up to 50 casualties. No differentiation yet as to 50 killed--yet.
ETA: FNC is now saying 50 dead, 53 wounded.
Pointing out the obvious, that's a lot of bullets fired by the killer! The dude obviously had a lot of ammo and was not effectively opposed for a really long time (= no club patron or employee was armed and trained in self-defense).
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Now up to 50 casualties. No differentiation yet as to 50 killed--yet.
ETA: FNC is now saying 50 dead, 53 wounded.
It could go higher.
'Islamic extremist' Omar Mateen, 29, from Florida, shoots dead at least 50 at Florida gay club after bursting in 'wearing a suicide vest' and taking hostages - injuring a further 53 - before he is killed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html
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The local imam (Orlando) was just spouting off a bunch of peaceable rhetoric, and his comments were pretty much calling for gun control as a solution.
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I'll give CBS News this much credit. Their headline for the article I linked and quoted above is, "Islamic terrorism tie eyed in Orlando gay bar shooting". They didn't euphemize the possible Islamic terrorism tie.
More obvious comments ...
Orlando gets a LOT of tourists. AKA soft targets, from terrorists' POV. Does FL law still forbid out-of-staters from carrying handguns? If so, a tourist hang-out would be a REALLY soft target!
Further evidence of planning by the killer ... Port St. Lucie (where the killer lived) is on the order of 80 miles from Orlando. Even with "perfect" traffic, it would have taken an hour and a half to two hours to get to that nightclub.
Stupid question time ... current reports are that the killer had a long gun (the MSM are saying "assault weapon", which is probably the usual ignorant nonsense bogeyman-invocation) and a handgun. The latter could be concealed fairly easily, but how was the long gun snuck into the club? Even if broken down and stashed into a duffel or backpack, wouldn't a heavily loaded bag have all but screamed, "Inspect me!"? Something's amiss or missing in this scenario as we "know" it.
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This attack will do what terrorism does best. Keep people from going to popular places and in turn cause those businesses money.
Schools are letting out for the summer...people are beginning to plan vacations to that area...and now this.
I'd expect to see cancellations increase starting today or tomorrow.
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This attack will do what terrorism does best. Keep people from going to popular places and in turn cause those businesses money.
Schools are letting out for the summer...people are beginning to plan vacations to that area...and now this.
I'd expect to see cancellations increase starting today or tomorrow.
Mrs. SVPete and I were in Orlando just 30 days ago. As unimpressive as MouseWorld's Magic Kingdom entry plaza security regime is, it would have prevented this killer from bringing his guns into the park. Whether he could have gotten onto transportation to a park from the parking area, I don't know (I didn't see what security measures they might have there).
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Is it wrong that I read about this and just shrugged?
It's not that I'm cold, I'm just not surprised. The lbgt movement has spent years attacking Christian and conservative beliefs while intentionally ignoring these same actions in the middle east. It's hard to feel sympathy knowing the large majority of those victims would have loved nothing more than to see the same possibly happen to us .
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ISIS Cheers Orlando #Pulse Nightclub Massacre – Warns of More Attacks on Disbelievers
Says this ISIS Tweet identifies the killer.
http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/dr-faisla-shaman-anzi-575x560.png
Story w/more Tweets @ http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/orlando-islamist-gay-killer-isis-twitter-feed-pictures-killer-pulse-hashtag/
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A Leftist Report on Orlando
If you don't think they are biased, check this out.
Approximately 20 people are dead inside Pulse nightclub, Orlando Police Chief John Mina said Sunday morning, just hours after a shooter opened fire in the club. At least 42 people have been transported for medical treatment, he said.
Police have shot and killed the gunman, Mina told reporters.
Pulse is a gay bar, but without further information we don’t know if that was relevant in the gunman’s choice to target it. As usual in mass shooting situations, expect conflicting reports and changing casualty counts.
They simply cannot bring themselves to report the truth – that a Muslim killed and wounded a whole bunch of gays!
From http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/06/12/1537657/-Mass-shooting-in-Orlando-nightclub-shooter-dead
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CBS Identifies Shooter
http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OmarMateen.png
A registered Democrat. No word about religious affiliation.
From http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/12/multiple-casualties-in-orlando-from-act-of-terrorism-at-night-club/
UPDATED: Death Toll Raised to 50, Injuries 53, Many Critical; Shooter Identified @ http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/06/12/terror-orlando-florida-dead-injured-jihad-attack-gay-nightclub/ w/video of shots being fired.
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Omar Mateen
(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/0612-omar-mateen-picture-4-620x482.jpg)
Reports indicate he had an advanced firearms permit that required an even more extensive background search.
This story @ http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/12/heres-what-we-know-about-the-suspected-orlando-club-shooter-omar-mateen/
Orlando Shooting Suspect Identified As Omar Mateen, Registered Democrat Of Afghan Descent With Firearm License @ http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-12/orlando-shooting-suspect-identified-omar-mateen-us-citizen
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Sanders Claims Lack of Gun Control Responsible for Orlando Shooting
More proof the man has loose marbles in his skull? This simply cannot be made up.
“I believe that in this country, we should not be selling automatic weapons which are designed to kill people,†Sanders said Sunday. “We have got to do everything that we can on top of that to make sure that guns do not fall into the hands of people who should not have them, criminals, people who are mentally ill.â€
Story w/lots of links and videos @ http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/12/sanders-claims-he-knows-the-real-culprit-behind-orlando-shooting/
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Get ready for the massive gun grab theme now.
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Sanders Claims Lack of Gun Control Responsible for Orlando Shooting
More proof the man has loose marbles in his skull? This simply cannot be made up.
“I believe that in this country, we should not be selling automatic weapons which are designed to kill people,†Sanders said Sunday. “We have got to do everything that we can on top of that to make sure that guns do not fall into the hands of people who should not have them, criminals, people who are mentally ill.â€
Story w/lots of links and videos @ http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/12/sanders-claims-he-knows-the-real-culprit-behind-orlando-shooting/
I wonder if Sanders would support something as logical as, say, profiling?
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Drudge has a headline saying, SHOOTER PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE TO ISIS just below a picture of the shooter. Also, in a press conference at around 9:45, I did hear the LEO at the microphone say that the rifle was an AR-style weapon.
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I think I can cease including "IF" from my posts regarding this horror:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/12/terrorist-omar-mateen-gay-nightclub-murder/
http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/suspected-gunman-in-florida-gay-club-mass-shooting-idd/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/12/omar-mateen-id-d-as-orlando-killer.html
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Get ready for the massive gun grab theme now.
If that happens watch Isis step up attacks with guns on America in hopes of having our asshat politicians ban our guns. Then watch the Democrat party help them out!
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Is it wrong that I read about this and just shrugged?
It's not that I'm cold, I'm just not surprised. The lbgt movement has spent years attacking Christian and conservative beliefs while intentionally ignoring these same actions in the middle east. It's hard to feel sympathy knowing the large majority of those victims would have loved nothing more than to see the same possibly happen to us .
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Terrorist Omar Mateen Worked For Security Company Responsible For Transporting Illegal Aliens…
The Palm Beach Post reports that he worked for G4S. The global security firm G4S, with offices in Jupiter, has confirmed that Orlando shooter Omar Mateen has worked for the company since 2007.
A security company contracted by the U.S. government is driving the OTMs from the Border Patrol’s Tucson Sector where they were in custody to Phoenix, sources said.
The firm is called G4S and claims to be the world’s leading security solutions group with operations in more than 100 countries and 610,000 employees.
G4S has more than 50,000 employees in the U.S. and its domestic headquarters is in Jupiter, Florida.
Judicial Watch is filing a number of public records requests to get more information involving the arrangement between G4S and the government, specifically the transport of illegal immigrants from the Mexican border to other parts of the country.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/12/death-toll-climbs-terror-in-orlando-50-dead-53-injured-in-terrorist-attack-at-gay-nightclub/
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Florida nightclub shooter apparently made threats in the past; ex-wife claims he beat her
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/florida-nightclub-shooter-had-made-threats-in-past-reports-claim.html
The gunman who killed at least 50 people at an Orlando nightclub early Sunday was a licensed security officer who claimed more than once that he had connections to Islamic terror groups, Fox News has learned, as the killer's ex-wife reportedly said he was unstable and would beat her.
Investigators identified the shooter as 29-year-old Omar Mateen, a Muslim who had a Statewide Firearms License. They said he lived in Port St. Lucie and nearby Fort Pierce. His father, Seddique Mateen, announced he was running for president of Afghanistan sometime around May 2015.
Omar Mateen "was not a stable person," his ex-wife told The Washington Post, which did not name her. "He beat me. He would just come home and start beating me up because the laundry wasn’t finished or something like that." She said he worked as a guard at a facility for juvenile delinquents and frequently exercised at a nearby gym in his spare time.
The father is just crazy.
The gunman's father claimed the massacre "had nothing to do with religion."
The elder Mateen once voiced support for the Taliban and denounced Pakistan while hosting a television show on a California-based channel called Payam-e-Afghan, the Washington Post reported.
"Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in Taliban movement, and national Afghan Taliban are rising up,†he says in one of dozens of videos posted on YouTube under his name. “Inshallah the Durand line issue will be solved soon.â€
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He got some crazy and evil looking eyes. :mental:
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Omar Mateen "was not a stable person," his ex-wife told The Washington Post, which did not name her. "He beat me. He would just come home and start beating me up because the laundry wasn’t finished or something like that."
First, Mateen had no criminal record. IOW she didn't report him. I'm not criticizing, just putting her comment in perspective. She may have been entirely correct - about the beatings, about his stability - but it wasn't piblic record.
Second, if he did beat her, that is permitted per Surah 4:34 of the Qur'an.
As for the father's statement, he's not going to say here in the US in English that Islam was the motivation; he might even be smart enough not to say it in his native language while here in the US. But in Afghanistan, in Pashto or Dari ...
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The father, Seddique Mateen, Durand Jirga Show. Plenty of videos on YouTube.
Seddique Mateen
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5MBQ9UhS01swTh860m_tvQ
Mir Seddique, Omar Mateen’s Father: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/mir-seddique-omar-mateen-father-son-afghanistan-orlando-mass-shooting-family-reaction/
The father is just as crazy as Omar Mateen. :mental:
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If that happens watch Isis step up attacks with guns on America in hopes of having our asshat politicians ban our guns. Then watch the Democrat party help them out!
There was a cop outside with a gun, so Trump's theory of having more GUNS is wrong. We can't stop killers and terrorist. The only way is to CLOSE DOWN GUN SHOPS. Thank God Hillary is the nominee because she's for gun control and reform. Bernie voted 5 times against the brady bill. 5000 teens died in Chicago by gun violence for the year, so the problem isn't just terrorist. so we MUST STOP ACCESS TO GUNS..
Leftists are full of crap!
It was another "Gun Free" shooting gallery!
How about if Everyone in the club had been carrying?
Would Fifty innocents still be dead?
France has gun laws the American Left can only dream of.
Only terrorists and criminals are packing heat.
(How's that working out?)
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Perhaps pinkpistols.org should get more visibility . . .
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His father stated that he saw two gay men kissing and he thinks that might have set his son off....
Well then...can we use liberal logic and say that if a confederate flag caused the shootings at the church in South Carolina, then these gay men kissing are the cause of these 50 deaths in Orlando.???
And if we should ban all things confederate now we should also ban all things gay!!!!
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His father stated that he saw two gay men kissing and he thinks that might have set his son off....
Well then...can we use liberal logic and say that if a confederate flag caused the shootings at the church in South Carolina, then these gay men kissing are the cause of these 50 deaths in Orlando.???
And if we should ban all things confederate now we should also ban all things gay!!!!
Let's just ban everything. Anything can be a microagression.
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http://youtu.be/qBlwxqqAprQ
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Let's bring more muslims into the US!!!!!!
Personally I think the queers all brought this on themselves. They have been pushing their lifestyle down everyone's throat, secure in the knowledge that the Christians will not rain down destruction upon them. They forgot one tiny little detail though... we got hard core muzzies here now.... bringing in more everyday... and the muzzies will have absolutely no reservations about killing all of them. How ya like them apples queers? Your beloved dem party is bringing in the adherents of a religion that will kill all your asses and laugh about it afterwards.
Serves you right for supporting the dems. I have no sympathy.
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Is it wrong that I read about this and just shrugged?
It's not that I'm cold, I'm just not surprised. The lbgt movement has spent years attacking Christian and conservative beliefs while intentionally ignoring these same actions in the middle east. It's hard to feel sympathy knowing the large majority of those victims would have loved nothing more than to see the same possibly happen to us .
I'm also unable to work up any sympathy. Islamic militants have made it clear who they are and what they want to do. We conservatives have been telling the libs that these militants weren't fooling around and they'll try to do what they say they're going to do unless we nip this in the bud now. Instead, libs pointed their fingers at us and called us alarmists and haters.
Ok, enjoy reaping what you've sewn. I'm done and whatever you decide now to do that you should have done 20+ years ago you can go for it on your own. You'll fail because you're too stupid to know what you're doing, but you libs go at it.
Oh, and try taking people's guns. Yeah, just try it. Make. My. Day.
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Co-worker: Omar Mateen homophobic, 'unhinged'
Gilroy, a former Fort Pierce police officer, said Mateen frequently made homophobic and racial comments. Gilroy said he complained to his employer several times but it did nothing because he was Muslim. Gilroy quit after he said Mateen began stalking him via multiple text messages — 20 or 30 a day. He also sent Gilroy 13 to 15 phone messages a day, he said.
"I quit because everything he said was toxic," Gilroy said Sunday, "and the company wouldn't do anything. This guy was unhinged and unstable. He talked of killing people."
Florida Today (http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2016/06/12/who-omar-mateen/85791280/)
Surprise :whatever:
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You gotta Luv em! :cheersmate:
Gwendolyn Patton, First Speaker of the Pink Pistols, an international GLBT self-defense organization, warns people not to jump immediately to the assailant’s guns as the object of blame, but to concentrate instead on Mateen’s violent acts.
“The Pink Pistols gives condolences to all family and friends of those killed and injured at Pulse,†began Patton.
“This is exactly the kind of heinous act that justifies our existence.
At such a time of tragedy, let us not reach for the low-hanging fruit of blaming the killer’s guns.
Let us stay focused on the fact that someone hated gay people so much they were ready to kill or injure so many.
A human being did this.
http://www.pinkpistols.org/
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@HeyTammyBruce @BaaadJuJu who else partied with the Orlando Killer's Daddy?
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It is Seddique Mateen with Charlie Rangel.
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Orlando gunman tied to radical imam released from prison last year, say law enforcement sources
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/orlando-gunman-tied-to-radical-imam-released-from-prison-last-year-say-law-enforcement-sources.html?intcmp=hpbt1
The gunman who murdered at least 50 people in a Florida nightclub early Sunday morning was a follower of a controversial gang leader-turned-bank robber who was released from prison last year despite warnings from prosecutors that he would recruit people to carry out violent acts, sources told FoxNews.com.
Omar Mateen, whose bloody siege inside a packed Orlando gay nightclub ended when SWAT teams stormed the building and killed him, was a radical Muslim who followed Marcus Dwayne Robertson, a law enforcement source said.
“It is no coincidence that this happened in Orlando,†said a law enforcement source familiar with Robertson’s history of recruiting terrorists and inciting violence. “Mateen was enrolled in [Robertson’s online] Fundamental Islamic Knowledge Seminary.â€
Omar Mateen has been radicalized by an ex-convict turned imam.
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Orlando gunman tied to radical imam released from prison last year, say law enforcement sources
The same law enforcement that investigated the shooter twice but found no reason to take action.
Welcome to Obama's America.
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Just watched the local news. Apparently the one gay bar in town is going to have a vigil tonight, they found a couple of patrons in the parking lot and they are singing the same old song about how hated they are and they have no idea why this shooting happened. Really? You have no idea. Either they found the dumbest poof they could find in the parking lot or of course the gays (the ones here at least) prefer to play stupid.
They know exactly why it happened. They just don't want to acknowledge a problem they've seen on the news across the world is now in their lap.
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Well, they damn sure found out.
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So, the deflective narrative is to blame homophobia and guns? ::) I could pile a hundred loaded long guns and hand guns in front of a gay bar, and as long as no one touched them, no one would be endangered.
Did Mateen hate gays? Obviously! But I guess it's Islamophobic of me to ask ... WHY? Because the answer is equally obvious!!!
If you think about it, Mateen's action belies the homophobia-only faexplanation. By way of a straight line, Mateen's home was about 80 miles from Orlando, and by highway, it's apparently more like 120 miles. The 1 1/2-2 hour drive time I guessed and posted yesterday were low. Including driving on streets his drive was 2 1/2 hours or a bit more. According to a site called gaybarmaps (I will not post a link, 'K) there is at least one significant gay bar in Port St. Lucie. If simply killing gays was his object, he could have done it much more easily, and had a better chance of escaping (due to knowing the city). Gay-bashers - they do exist, obviously - do their thing and often are not caught. Driving 2 1/2 hours to Orlando points to a larger goal, to create terror, on a national scale. And that points to a larger motive, he had become "radicalized" (basically, a more faithful Muslim!).
That's the dot-connecting Libs & Progs seem bent of avoiding. But I don't think many American people are going to buy it, other than doctrinaire Lib & Prog ideologues.
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Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/
A former classmate of Omar Mateen’s 2006 police academy class said he believed Mateen was gay, saying Mateen once asked him out.
Officials say Mateen shot and killed 49 people and injured 53 others at an Orlando nightclub early Sunday morning.
The classmate said that he, Mateen and other classmates would hang out, sometimes going to gay nightclubs, after classes at the Indian River Community College police academy. He said Mateen asked him out romantically.
“We went to a few gay bars with him, and I was not out at the time, so I declined his offer,†the former classmate said. He asked that his name not be used.
He believed Mateen was gay, but not open about it. Mateen was awkward, and for a while the classmate and the rest in the group of friends felt sorry for him.
Omar Mateen is gay. I once heard homosexuality is very pervasive in the Middle East.
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He looks like he'd suck a dick to get something he wanted.
The San Bernadino knob gobbler had the same look on his face. Never mind his horse faced Paki wife.
Bunch of fags. Allahu ackbar, cocksucker fagboy.
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Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/
Omar Mateen is gay. I once heard homosexuality is very pervasive in the Middle East.
Especially on Thursday's.
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Especially on Thursday's.
It's probably a good chunk of the ISIS population. Big case of group think hoping none of their buddies find out while raping the local livestock.
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Oh, The Orlando Killer Didn't Use An AR-15 Rifle...
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/14/oh-the-orlando-killer-didnt-use-an-ar15-rifle-n2177835
Folks—the demonization of the AR-15 rifle has begun in the media. The usual talking points about its lethality, its rate of fire, and its scariness are coursing through the veins of the anti-gun Left following the Orlando attack. Omar Mateen committed the worst mass shooting in U.S. history on Sunday morning, which will likely be reclassified as a terrorist attack, when he murdered 49 people at a gay nightclub (Pulse). As Bob Owens and Streiff noted at Bearing Arms and RedState respectively, Mateen didn’t use an AR-15 rifle, but the media has a narrative to dole out (via CBS News):
A law enforcement source said that the shooting suspect legally purchased recently the two weapons used in the attack at the shooting center in Port St. Lucie near his Fort Pierce home. He had a Glock 17 handgun purchased on June 5, a Sigsauer MCX assault rifle purchased on June 4 on his person during the shootout, and investigators later found a .38-caliber weapon in his vehicle.
The shooter did not use an AR-15, but a Sig Sauer MCX. I have never even heard of it.
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Oh, The Orlando Killer Didn't Use An AR-15 Rifle...
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/14/oh-the-orlando-killer-didnt-use-an-ar15-rifle-n2177835
The shooter did not use an AR-15, but a Sig Sauer MCX. I have never even heard of it.
Don't worry, you will. It's just as black and scary looking as an AR-15. :rofl:
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EXCLUSIVE: Orlando shooter's father called for 'Allah to punish' his Afghan political allies with cancer when they fell out - and one now warns he is a 'fanatic'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3639976/Father-Orlando-shooter-called-Allah-punish-political-supporters-fell-bizarre-plan-enlarge-Afghanistan.html
The father of the Orlando shooter called for Allah to punish Afghans involved in his political campaign when they disobeyed him, Daily Mail Online can reveal.
Seddique Mir Mateen branded his former colleagues a 'bunch of parasites' for trying to put people in charge of two European offices who he disagreed with.
Mateen - who claims to be the Afghan President in exile - threatened to report them to the British and Dutch police for fraud and theft and told them that 'the jealous person goes to hell'.
The father, Seddique Mir Mateen, is a total nutjob! He had to have influence on Omar Mateen. :mental:
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Why won’t the Left admit the inconvenient truth about Islam? It hates everything else they love
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641118/KATIE-HOPKINS-won-t-Left-admit-inconvenient-truth-Islam-hates-love.html
Sometimes the build-up of pressure is just too much. You see it in nature - the force of two tectonic plates converging along a fault line. Shuddering out earthquakes, forcing up mountains, causing volcanoes to scream and spew lava down themselves.
Society is just the same. Simmering tensions boiling over into road rage, an angry exchange, knives drawn in the street.
Opposing forces shunting against each other so violently, eventually something gives. Someone gives.
And so it has been with Orlando. Islam against homosexuality.
Forty nine dead. Fifty one injured.
And the shock waves of this human earthquake spread fast. The ground whipped out from under the feet of a hundred sleeping mothers, some clutching phones, still listening to their frightened children's last, terrified messages.
Katie Hopkins nails it right on the head.
Predictably they have chosen Islam.
And don’t tell me the ‘acts of a few extremists do not represent Islam’, because I am sick of hearing it. Every time another Islamist takes down a club, knocks out an airport or wipes out the subway, we are supposed to embrace Muslims and spread the love.
Some of the comments are stupid.
Katherina17, Boston, United States, about 3 hours ago
So ignorant.
:mental: :bird:
James2227, Glasgow, United Kingdom, about 3 hours ago
It is absolutely absurd to me that Katie thinks gun control isn't a serious issue in the US. Let's rewind back to a few days ago to when a singer gets shot at her concert in front of everyone. Now only a few days later, the same tragedy has occurred but to a level that was almost unimaginable. What needs to be addressed especially after this week is the use of guns!
Typical DUmb leftist. :bird:
Irishgirl70, Burleson, United States, about 3 hours ago
Her level of ignorance, hate and xenophobia was too much to take. I stopped reading midway.
:bird:
One Tree Hill Rules, Unknown, United Kingdom, 11 hours ago
Go away Katie Hopkins. No one outside of DailyMail even likes you. Your views are perceptibly narrow-minded and absurd. Islam is not to blame. I don't care if I get red arrows for this. Who cares about red arrows, seriously? Katie, you need to re evaluate your life. Pathetic, narrowminded vile woman!
:bird: :bird:
Sometimes I think leftists are a bigger threat.
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Florida governor: Obama 'has not called' after Orlando terrorist attack
http://www.businessinsider.com/rick-scott-obama-orlando-attack-2016-6
Florida Gov. Rick Scott said on Tuesday that President Barack Obama has not called him after the worst terrorist attack on US soil - which took place in Scott's home state - since September 11, 2001.
"No. He has not called," the Republican governor told "Fox & Friends."
Scott noted that a "staffer has called," but reiterated that Obama has "not called."
I usually the President to call the governor of a state if disaster strikes on a scale like this.
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This is an 11 minute video but one you MUST watch. It lays out the Obama administration's stand on the Florida shooter and it's going to send off alarm bells as you watch it. Here's my personal take on what Obama and the Secretary of Homeland Security is telling us.
This poor young American born of Afghani immigrants grew up in an environment of hate and racial division caused by conservative Republicans. He tried to follow the American and peaceful Muslim way of life by marrying. Although that didn't work out, he tried once again. Because of bigotry toward LGBT people, he hid his true feelings but finally ended up going to gay clubs to seek friendship and even kindred spirits. In the meantime, he had unlimited access to the internet filled with evil and misleading information that caused him to seek parts of jihadi Islam – receiving the most horrid and wrong versions of the Religion of Peace. He was licensed to carry weapons and, at last at the breaking point, his mind poisoned by the hatred of many for an LGBT lifestyle by conservative Republicans, he went off and bought guns that should've been far more strictly controlled and, all on his own without influence from anyone but the evil internet, he descended on the club where he had been so often rebuffed and suffered a mental breakdown resulting in the tragic death of so many,.
You got all that?
Evil internet
Uncontrolled guns
Radical uncaring Republicans/conservatives
Self-radicalization
Uh, what about the mosques he attended? What did he learn there? How come his trips to Saudi Arabia were ignored?
Can you see where the administration is going on this? More control of the internet. Stronger gun control. It cannot be Islam because that is not what it is all about (ignoring other countries in the world where killing gays is the law).
Wake up. November is our chance to put a stop to this before it's too late.
The video and story is @ http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/14/johnson-orlando-terror-attack-was-case-self-radicalization
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Yes, we are sure the shooter's Afghan father, views and videos showing sympathy towards the Talliban and no influence on the shooters views or actions.
It is all Republicans, guns and Christians fault.
God I really dislike liberals.
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(http://i67.tinypic.com/b5gzkg.jpg)
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Yes, we are sure the shooter's Afghan father, views and videos showing sympathy towards the Talliban and no influence on the shooters views or actions.
It is all Republicans, guns and Christians fault.
God I really dislike liberals.
Liberals and Jihadists are the same.
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Omar Mateen on IMDB!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIhb5GEqWA
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5753533/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t13
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It is him.
Omar Mateen recorded insulting workers in BP oil spill documentary 6 years ago
http://fox2now.com/2016/06/15/omar-mateen-recorded-insulting-workers-in-bp-oil-spill-documentary-6-years-ago/
Creepy to think about. He looks very creepy as well. :mental:
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This country gave the Mateen family refuge from the Hell that was Afghanistan when the Soviets were trying to prop up a puppet government - around the time Omar was born. Among many things, he seems to have been raised with and to have a lot of hatred for the US. Since they hate the US so, maybe the US should ship his body and the rest of his family back to a Taliban-dominated paradise area of Afghanistan.
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This country gave the Mateen family refuge from the Hell that was Afghanistan when the Soviets were trying to prop up a puppet government - around the time Omar was born. Among many things, he seems to have been raised with and to have a lot of hatred for the US. Since they hate the US so, maybe the US should ship his body and the rest of his family back to a Taliban-dominated paradise area of Afghanistan.
Only if they wrap it in pigskin first.
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EXCLUSIVE: FBI investigating ‘conspiracy’ tip from a rose peddler who claims Orlando shooter and his ‘pretty-eyed’ wife met regularly with a group of six other ‘foreigners’ in a dark corner of a West Palm Beach bar
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3647081/FBI-investigating-tip-rose-peddler-spoke-Orlando-shooter-befriended-pretty-eyed-wife-regularly-met-foreigners-dark-corner-West-Palm-Beach-bar.html
FBI offices in South Florida have received thousands of tips from members of the public since Sunday, when terror suspect Omar Mateen shot and killed 49 people at the gay club Pulse in Orlando.
Many of them have been bum tips, but some have been accurate and have helped investigators track Mateen's whereabouts before his bloody rampage.
Among members of the public trying to help is a woman in West Palm Beach, Florida, an hour south of the shooter's hometown of Fort Pierce.
Sounds like Omar Mateen was part of a group seen in San Bernardino.
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Lynch: "Partial Transcript" Of Orlando 911 Calls Will Have References To Islamic Terrorism Removed
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/19/lynch_partial_transcript_of_orlando_911_calls_will_have_references_to_isis_cut_out.html
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Lynch: "Partial Transcript" Of Orlando 911 Calls Will Have References To Islamic Terrorism Removed
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On Date June 19, 2016
Lynch: "Partial Transcript" Of Orlando 911 Calls Will Have References To Islamic Terrorism Removed
In an interview with NBC's Chuck Todd, Attorney General Loretta Lynch says that on Monday, the FBI will release edited transcripts of the 911 calls made by the Orlando nightclub shooter to the police during his rampage.
"What we're not going to do is further proclaim this man's pledges of allegiance to terrorist groups, and further his propaganda," Lynch said. "We are not going to hear him make his assertions of allegiance [to the Islamic State]."
The Washington Post reported last week that the gunman made multiple phone calls while holding hostages: "The gunman who opened fire inside a nightclub here said he carried out the attack because he wanted 'Americans to stop bombing his country,' according to a witness who survived the rampage."
Why remove reference to Islamic State???????????????????????? Witnesses heard him make reference to it.
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Lynch: "Partial Transcript" Of Orlando 911 Calls Will Have References To Islamic Terrorism Removed
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/19/lynch_partial_transcript_of_orlando_911_calls_will_have_references_to_isis_cut_out.html
Why remove reference to Islamic State???????????????????????? Witnesses heard him make reference to it.
This is the same regime that edited videos and transcripts of White House press conferences. They have also edited long standing archives regarding laws passed under past presidents to include Obama.
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But ....WAIT!!!! Wasn't this supposed to be the most TRANSPARENT administration ever??????
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I reported Omar Mateen to the FBI. Trump is wrong that Muslims don’t do our part.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/20/i-reported-omar-mateen-to-the-fbi-trump-is-wrong-that-muslims-dont-do-our-part/
Donald Trump believes American Muslims are hiding something. “They know what’s going on. They know that [Omar Mateen] was bad,†he said after the Orlando massacre. “They have to cooperate with law enforcement and turn in the people who they know are bad. … But you know what? They didn’t turn them in. And you know what? We had death and destruction.â€
This is a common idea in the United States. It’s also a lie. First, Muslims like me can’t see into the hearts of other worshipers. (Do you know the hidden depths of everyone in your community?) Second, Trump is wrong that we don’t speak up when we’re able.
I know this firsthand: I was the one who told the FBI about Omar Mateen.
He is also liked Hillary Clinton.
Omar and I continued to have infrequent conversations over the next few years. I last saw him at a dinner at his father’s house in January. We talked about the presidential election and debated our views of the candidates that were running – he liked Hillary Clinton and I liked Bernie Sanders. This banter continued through texts and phone calls for several months. My last conversation with Omar was by phone in mid-May. He called me while he was at the beach with his son to tell me about a vacation he’d taken with his father to Orlando the previous weekend. He’d been impressed by the local mosque.
The comment sections are idiotic.
Pogo4
9:25 PM CDT
Boogey man - Sharia law. Saudi Arabia applies the ancient barbaric custom of cutting off the right hand of a thief (pretty severe since they use their left hand to wipe themselves).
But for most Muslim majority countries - e.g. Egypt, Sharia is the rule for marriage, divorce and children for Muslims and doesn't apply to non-Muslims. It is not so different from Catholic rules and could be challenged by a Muslim in the US who claimed to have signed the marriage contract under duress or that it challenged American values.
So if you ask Muslims if they favor Sharia, it is like asking a Catholic if they favor Catholic rules on marriage. Most of them will say yes (and break the rules later).
Socks_Friend
9:18 PM CDT
It is difficult for Trump supporters to learn anything.
Or Clinton or Sanders supporters.
Jack Kelley
9:29 PM CDT
Glenn wants to lock up the author, but then Glenn is not an actual American in any way we can discern.
CarbonLifeForm
9:14 PM CDT
Fear, hate, fear, hate! Oh, look, a conspiracy, too!
Jack Kelley
9:14 PM CDT
Your degree in Islamic studies is from Breitbart U?
Projecting are we? :mental:
CarbonLifeForm
9:13 PM CDT
Fear, hate, fear, hate! Oh, look, a conspiracy, too!
You are repeating yourself! :mental:
The voice of reason.
BootsieGoldman
9:01 PM CDT [Edited]
It's sick that anyone who calls themselves a liberal could EVER try to defend a religion that TO THIS DAY excuses the ongoing slavery in its name.
That excuses violence against any non-believer no matter what age.
That teaches women are always to be property.
Explain At-Tawbah, someone out there in Liberal land. Tell me how it fits the goal of enlightened thinking?
grittygrits
9:03 PM CDT
Trollin, trollin, trollin, keep those doggies trollin! RawHIDE!
Stuck on stupid! :bird: :mental:
CarbonLifeForm
9:03 PM CDT
OMG you guys are all LOOoOoOOONS!
Proof liberals are stupid! :mental:
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Orlando Terror Attack ‘Triggered’ by Pentagon Drone Strike
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/orlando-terror-attack-triggered-pentagon-drone-strike/
The domestic terrorist behind the Orlando nightclub massacre was motivated by a Pentagon drone strike in Iraq a month before the shooting, according to police transcripts made public last week.
Conversations between Omar Mateen and an Orlando police negotiator on June 12 were kept secret by FBI and local police until Friday. The secrecy contributed to misleading media accounts of the terrorist’s motives in the days after the killings.
The transcripts were released by Orlando police Friday after a Florida court hearing held in response to a lawsuit filed by several news organizations.
Here is the transcript between the negotiator and Omar Mateen
http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/NEGOTIATION1_6146923_ver1.0.pdf
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Orlando Terror Attack ‘Triggered’ by Pentagon Drone Strike
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/orlando-terror-attack-triggered-pentagon-drone-strike/
Here is the transcript between the negotiator and Omar Mateen
http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/NEGOTIATION1_6146923_ver1.0.pdf
::) Trigger ::) Well, I guess that could be "correct", in the sense that it was the spark that set off the bomb of Islamic-terror. Without the years of Quranic teaching about conquering infidels and forcing on them the trilemma of conversion, dhimmitude, or having their heads hacked off (or otherwise killed) Mateen would not have been an Islamic time bomb.
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The term "trigger" seems to have a very popular following these days. :bs:
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The term "trigger" seems to have a very popular following these days. :bs:
It was better when "Trigger" was a horse.
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At Pulse hearing, Noor Salman pleads not guilty to both charges
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-noor-salman-plea-20170118-story.html
Noor Zahi Salman, widow of the Pulse nightclub shooter, pleaded not guilty to both federal charges against her in a California courtroom Wednesday.
Prosecutors say Salman, 30, knew about Omar Mateen's plan for the June 12 attack that left 49 people dead and 68 injured in the nation's worst mass shooting in modern history.
Salman entered her plea before U.S. District Judge Donna Ryu.
Aiding and abetting terrorists is just as bad. She should be executed. :mad: :argh:
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At Pulse hearing, Noor Salman pleads not guilty to both charges
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-noor-salman-plea-20170118-story.html
Aiding and abetting terrorists is just as bad. She should be executed. :mad: :argh:
If it is proved that she knew and did nothing, then she is worse than he is.
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Noor Zahi Salman, widow of the Pulse nightclub shooter, pleaded not guilty to both federal charges against her in a California courtroom Wednesday.
I hope this was due to some kind of procedural formality. She should be extradited to FL and tried there, where her alleged crime took place.