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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Delmar on June 10, 2016, 11:36:14 PM
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Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:35 PM
floriduck (1,832 posts)
Obama's Endorsement Undercuts Clinton FBI investigation.
Yesterday Josh Ernest admitted the FBI is conducting a "criminal investigation" regarding Clinton's emails. You can find it on C-Span.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/fox-news-obama-hillary-clinton-fbi-224143
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512171788
Correction: The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is conducting a records review security inquiry criminal investigation into Crooked Hillary's email server.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #2)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:18 PM
Star Member Samantha (9,060 posts)
88. Comey in a televised address said it was an "investigation"
We don't do security reviews, he mentioned, we do investigations. That word is even in our name: Federal Bureau of Investigation. (paraphrasing what he said since I do not have exact quote)
Sam
Bernie Bro or right wing troll? What difference does it make at this point?
Response to bravenak (Reply #128)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:36 PM
Star Member DemocratSinceBirth (71,641 posts)
131. I am on my third book about the Obamas and the Clintons.
They genuinely like each other, even after their bitter contest. I don't think the man has a vengeful bone in his body. He is almost too good for this world.
He's too good for us, mama.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #4)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:51 PM
floriduck (1,832 posts)
8. That's not for you or me to decide. But we now have confirmation it is a criminal investigation.
Response to floriduck (Reply #8)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:09 PM
scscholar (1,782 posts)
78. It wasn't confirmation. He probably misspoke
I'll believe it when I see it in writing.
Response to floriduck (Reply #8)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:08 PM
Star Member apcalc (877 posts)
111. No , we do not.
Confirmed: It's a criminal investigation of Crooked Hillary's illegal, unsecure, off-the-books email server that was put in place to get around legitimate oversight.
Loretta Lynch won't prosecute, but the whole world knows that Crooked Hillary is guilty as all hell.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #29)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 03:28 PM
floriduck (1,832 posts)
44. But if an indictment is recommended and the DOJ declines, shit will hit the fan.
Glad to be able to point THAT out to you. Then the Democratic Party will look like ridiculous crooks. Now you don't want THAT do you?
The Democrat Party will look like the ridiculous crooks that they are.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #10)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:40 PM
libdem4life (12,439 posts)
97. I disagree. It's sad to see Democrats shilling for someone who refuses
to come clean. She could in one moment clear everything up...if it were above board. Good lord, she's got the entire Democratic Party elite, PBO included, now "carrying water for her". That doesn't change one thing...just shows the depth she is willing to go to having "supporters" shill for her.
And don't give me the VRWC BS ... She is a Democrat. We are Democrats. These are her actions. She made decisions. And a good half of us think they suck.
The problem is that now they really have some red meat. So howl away. You'll have plenty of time and opportunity.
Come clean and clear everything up? Crooked Hillary?
That'll be the day.
Response to Hav (Reply #13)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 03:06 PM
floriduck (1,832 posts)
24. I have no issue with Obama's endorsement, nor Elizabeth Warren's, Joe Biden's or Nancy Pelosi's.
My point is the FBI IS treating this as a criminal investigation. Not like a security review that Clinton and her supporters said for months. They were wrong then and her supporters who deny a possible indictment might be wrong again.
Welcome to DU, low post count floriduck!
Response to floriduck (Reply #24)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 03:22 PM
Star Member bigtree (63,885 posts)
38. you wrote the title as if she was a definite target of the inquiry instead of a witness
...something which has not been established.
Also, an investigation of criminality is not proof that criminality occurred - something that Sanders and his supporters have been asserting for months.
Hillary is the target. It was her server. Witness? Who else besides Hillary could possibly be the target?
Pull your head out of your ass, DUmmy.
Response to libdem4life (Reply #59)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:08 PM
Star Member bigtree (63,885 posts)
77. the FBI hasn't declared anyone the target of a criminal inquiry
...much less indicated any crime has been committed.
So, yeah, talk to the FBI, don't blame Clinton for others using the inquiry as a political cudgel.
from Fiscal Times:
...legal experts have told the Associated Press that it “appears unlikely Clinton would be formally charged with committing a crime†for using her private email server throughout her four years at the State Department, in contravention of revised rules regulating highly sensitive email transmissions. That’s because the relatively few federal laws governing the handling of classified materials were written primarily to cover spies and leakers. What’s more, prosecutors would have to prove intent to violate the law and expose classified material to hacking, which would be a stretch at best.
No crime has been committed. It's only a records review.
Response to floriduck (Original post)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:00 PM
Star Member MFM008 (3,838 posts)
106. I find it hard to believe
a lawyer such as Barack Obama would risk everything with such an endorsement for HRC
if he wasn't sure she would be cleared of wrong doing. I find that mind boggling.
How many emails to or from constitutional law scholar Barry are there on Crooked Hillary's illegal server?
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Star Member DemocratSinceBirth (71,641 posts)
131. I am on my third book about the Obamas and the Clintons.
They genuinely like each other, even after their bitter contest. I don't think the man has a vengeful bone in his body. He is almost too good for this world.
(http://c3.thejournal.ie/media/2014/05/head-desk-bartlett-2.gif)
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I don't think the man has a vengeful bone in his body. He is almost too good for this world.
Wipe your chin and get off your knees.
I can't believe anyone thinks this way after 7+ years of this turd and his underlings.
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There is not a sane person in the world that doesn`t understand the Clintoons and Obozos despise each other.
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Response to bravenak (Reply #128)Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:36 PM
Star Member DemocratSinceBirth (71,641 posts)
131. I am on my third book about the Obamas and the Clintons.
They genuinely like each other, even after their bitter contest. I don't think the man has a vengeful bone in his body. He is almost too good for this world.
It's a good thing I had already swallowed my coffee when I read this! BHO likes The SHREW ... on the opposite side of the world from him; Moochchelle likes The SHREW beyond the Moon, and WJC at least a California-sized (north-south-wise) state away from Sash and Malia. As for The SHREW, BHO stole the Presidency from her in 2008 ... any questions?
bn needs to read political writers whose lips don't divide time between BHO's and The SHREW's :moon: .
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He is almost too good for this world.
Hmmmm....could that be a threat ?
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Hmmmm....could that be a threat ?
A microagression perhaps?
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The indictment need not be over the classified emails, or the server, or anything else. All the facts required are already public record.
1) Hillary Clinton, while SecState, conducted all official business over non-governmental email.
2) Hillary Clinton did not turn over those emails at the end of her tenure as SecState, as required by law.
3) Hillary Clinton deleted some portion of the emails in that non-governmental email account, with a strong possibility that official emails were among the deleted ones.
4) By virtue of the penalties of the Public Records Act, if she is found to have deleted ONE official government email, she is disqualified from ANY elected office, including POTUS.
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The indictment need not be over the classified emails, or the server, or anything else. All the facts required are already public record.
1) Hillary Clinton, while SecState, conducted all official business over non-governmental email.
2) Hillary Clinton did not turn over those emails at the end of her tenure as SecState, as required by law.
3) Hillary Clinton deleted some portion of the emails in that non-governmental email account, with a strong possibility that official emails were among the deleted ones.
4) By virtue of the penalties of the Public Records Act, if she is found to have deleted ONE official government email, she is disqualified from ANY elected office, including POTUS.
Some animals are more equal than others, doc. Similarly, "D" good, "R" bad.
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I think the FBI criminal investigation hardly matters at all.
The Hildebeast would be replaced by either Fauxcohontas or Slow Joe, or maybe even Crazy Bernie - but so what?
The election will still boil down to a referendum on Trump, regardless of who the democrat party runs.
It's only a small percentage on each side that realizes the significance of allowing the left to take over the Supreme Court for decades.
Most people will see a choice between a vicious, ignorant, mentally-ill, would-be tyrant vs. four more years of stalemate between the Congress and a leftist administration.
I don't think the name of the leftist will have much influence on the election.
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The indictment need not be over the classified emails, or the server, or anything else. All the facts required are already public record.
1) Hillary Clinton, while SecState, conducted all official business over non-governmental email.
2) Hillary Clinton did not turn over those emails at the end of her tenure as SecState, as required by law.
3) Hillary Clinton deleted some portion of the emails in that non-governmental email account, with a strong possibility that official emails were among the deleted ones.
4) By virtue of the penalties of the Public Records Act, if she is found to have deleted ONE official government email, she is disqualified from ANY elected office, including POTUS.
You forget. These are resume ENHANCERS for a democRAT.
Off to the re-education camp for you.
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Most people will see a choice between a vicious, ignorant, mentally-ill, would-be tyrant vs. four more years of stalemate between the Congress and a leftist administration.
Where the hell is this stalemate you speak of hiding? First, Boehner capitulated to Obama and now Paul Ryan is doing the same damn thing. And when they don't surrender, Obama just uses his pen and his phone, does what he wants and the republicans just say: "Oh well, we tried to stop him."
The republicans in congress are as much responsible for Trump's popularity as anyone.
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Where the hell is this stalemate you speak of hiding? First, Boehner capitulated to Obama and now Paul Ryan is doing the same damn thing. And when they don't surrender, Obama just uses his pen and his phone, does what he wants and the republicans just say: "Oh well, we tried to stop him."
The republicans in congress are as much responsible for Trump's popularity as anyone.
Speaking as a devout diehard lifelong Republican, I will be the first in line to say you're absolutely right, thundley4, sir. We have Trump because of the weakness, the spinelessness, of regular establishment Republicans who forgot to remember that Republicans stand for something.
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Speaking as a devout diehard lifelong Republican, I will be the first in line to say you're absolutely right, thundley4, sir. We have Trump because of the weakness, the spinelessness, of regular establishment Republicans who forgot to remember that Republicans stand for something.
Hi5. Well said, sir.