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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on June 06, 2016, 07:21:23 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512141311
Oh my.
You know, I'm kind of sad; the primitive civil war ends in about twenty-four hours from now.
I'm gonna miss it.
amborin (16,531 posts) Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:07 PM
2016 Is NOT Remotely Comparable to 2008
President Obama had a great record and had campaigned as a progressive.
President Obama was not under any investigations of any kind, especially FBI investigations.
President Obama was against the Iraq war
President Obama campaigned for peace
ETC......
Hillary is under FBI investigation
Hillary disregarded FOIA rules and the public's right to transparency and access to the historical record
Hillary has a demonstrated record of repetitive lies
Hillary has a record of implementing reckless regime change in the Middle East
Hillary has a record of supporting anti-democratic coups in Honduras
Hillary has a record of making promises to voters about FTAs, then lobbying for them and voting with Republicans and against Democrats for them
HIllary has a record of supporting a right wing regime in Colombia that brutalized union organizers
Hillary has accepted massive speaking fees from big banks, big pharma, etc and refuses to release the transcripts
Hillary cites as role models such war criminals and Neo Cons as Kissinger and Kagan
Hillary championed the TPP
Hillary's senate record shows she promised to rein in the big banks and fight inequality and loopholes for the wealthy, but instead upheld tax loopholes for big hedge funds and investors
Hillary is on tape and video saying she is "adamantly against illegal immigrants" and voted many times for a border wall
Plus, many more differences.
So, bottom line is: there IS NO comparison between this primary cycle and the one in 2008
Tarc (7,322 posts) Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:08 PM
1. It's ok, let it all out
Hillary will be the presumptive nominee in 24 hours.
Yeah.
But surely franksolich isn't the only one who's going to miss the soon-to-be-over primitive civil war.
floriduck (1,774 posts) Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:13 PM
2. Barack and Hillary agreed on so many issues. That's another reason Hillary conceded after CA.
But she wrangled the SOS position from Obama as she began her run for 2016. If Bernie is not the nominee, he will hand off the movement to others. That's why she clung so tightly to Obama, at least she said that, so she could slip in behind him when his term expires.
Bernie and Hillary are not even close in ideology. Hillary is a corporatist and Bernie is a middle class kind of guy.
beachbumbob (891 posts) Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:13 PM
3. Just ignore the fact that Bernie was ok with a black guy using super delegates
And against a woman using same super delegates....either sexism or hypocrisy or both
Uh huh. There ^^^ you have it.
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2016 Is NOT Remotely Comparable to 2008
President Obama had a great record and had campaigned as a progressive.
Wait, whut? What record? Obama nearly always voted present on any bill of importance in Illinois and did the same in the US senate.
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Is she going to be the presumptive nominee in 24 hours, or "24 business hours"?
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President Obama had a great record and had campaigned as a progressive.
He had no record and campaigned as "Hey, I'm Black."
President Obama was not under any investigations of any kind, especially FBI investigations.
Never having done anything in your whole life can be and advantage after all.
President Obama was against the Iraq war
Which was effectively over when he took office, then he proceeded to screw the pooch on it so bad it came back to life while he was still in office. He was FOR the Afghan war, which he also hosed up royally, then started a war for NOTHING in Libya and turned a stable state into a terrorist cesspool, and managed to destabilize the entire African Med littoral and Syria at the same time, achieving NOTHING which was good for the US or US interests in the region, and that in turn further screwed up Iraq. And don't even get me started on what he did with Iran.
President Obama campaigned for peace
Well, he got a Nobel Peace Prize, anyway.
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President Obama campaigned for peace
So do two-year-olds and Ms. America contestants, retard.