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I hope it's true.
Published: July 28, 2008 09:32 am
Rock-solid proof?
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/Servonaut/dino1.jpg)
A discovery by a former Mineral Wells resident might hold proof man and dinosaur walked the Earth together
By David May
editor@mineralwellsindex.com
A slab of North Texas limestone is on track to rock the world, with its two imbedded footprints poised to make a huge impression in scientific and religious circles.
The estimated 140-pound stone was recovered in July 2000 from the bank of a creek that feeds the Paluxy River near Glen Rose, Texas, located about 53 miles south of Fort Worth. The find was made just outside Dinosaur Valley State Park, a popular destination for tourists known for its well-preserved dinosaur tracks and other fossils.
The limestone contains two distinct prints – one of a human footprint and one belonging to a dinosaur. The significance of the cement-hard fossil is that it shows the dinosaur print partially over and intersecting the human print.
In other words, the stone’s impressions indicate that the human stepped first, the dinosaur second. If proven genuine, the artifact would provide evidence that man and dinosaur roamed the Earth at the same time, according to those associated with the find and with its safekeeping. It could potentially toss out the window many commonly held scientific theories on evolution and the history of the world.
Finding scholars and experts on evolution, paleontology or creationism to speak about the discovery proved difficult. Some who were contacted said they didn’t want to comment on the prints without a personal inspection or without review of data from scientific tests.
However, Dr. Phillip Murry, a vertebrate paleontology instructor in the Geoscience department of Tarleton State University at Stephenville, Texas, stated in his response to an interview request: “There has never been a proven association of dinosaur (prints) with human footprints.â€
The longtime amateur archeologist who found the fossil thinks that statement is now proven untrue.
“It is unbelievable, that’s what it is,†Alvis Delk, 72, said of what could be not only the find of a lifetime, but of mankind.
http://www.mineralwellsindex.com/homepage/local_story_210093256.html
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stone was recovered in July 2000
It's really shaken up evolutionists...what with all the coverage by the MSM... ::)
Edit to say: Oops!
Two months ago – about the third week of May – Delk said he grabbed a 4-inch brush and began lightly brushing away sediments and deposits from the stone when he noticed something. He began to see another print develop – that of a human – partially beneath the dinosaur print.
I'll save the first comment for a couple years... :-)
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You know, I have no dog in this fight; it makes little or no difference to me, whether man was created by God, evolved from apes, or was brought here by aliens from outer space.
My own religion says God is the First Cause of all things, and anything that happens after that is subject to debate; for me, evolution makes an interesting dinner-table debate, and is certainly no more important than that.
While not being a proponent of two of the theories, I tend to be mildly negative about the third one, the theory of evolution. Not that it doesn't make sense, which it does, to a limited and fallible human brain, but mostly simply because of the stridency, the shrillity, the fanaticism, of evolution enthusiasts.
I rarely meet people who are so sure they're so right about something.
As history has shown, the one and only real Truth is God; all "truths" discerned by man have shifted, altered, evaporated, throughout the ages.
One is struck, for example, that people before circa 1808 had a very different perception of time and space than people now, in 2008. Albert Einstein happened about mid-way through the past 200 years, and was perhaps subconsciously affected by nearly-imperceptible trends that preceded him, and managed to articulate this different perception of time and space, influencing the rest of us the following 100 years.
I have no doubt the law of gravity--which makes perfect sense to the limited and fallible human brain, including mine--will be found to be "wrong" in my own lifetime, and that sometime later this same century, it will be shown that 2 + 2 does NOT = 4. I have no idea what any new theories might propose, only that they'll be utterly different from our beliefs about gravity and mathematics as they presently are.
The evolution debate in Kansas a few years ago struck me as oddly familiar, something I'd seen before; that famous debate in southern France circa 1250, about how many teeth are inside the mouth of a horse. In that one, there were those who argued such could be discerned by the Scriptures, and those who argued such could be discerned by opening the horse's mouth and counting the molars.
The evolution enthusiasts won the debate down there in Kansas, but lost. One has to remember that those who had argued the Scriptures as the basis for discerning the number of teeth a horse has, some 750 years ago, had won that debate, too.
What I was seeing down in Kansas what what the world had seen many times before; the old order, in this case the evolution enthusiasts, decaying and brittle and adamant, trying desperately to remain relevant in a changing world, winning a temporary victory, which quickly thereafter erodes into dust.
As I said, it's not a big issue with me, the origins of mankind; there's plenty of other issues in this world more important than this. All the money, time, and energy spent on promoting evolution could probably feed a great many of the hungry children in the world. Evolution makes sense to me, but it's not really worth anything other than a casual debate over the dinner-table, nothing more.
And one has to remember God has a sense of humor.
God, being Almighty and All-Powerful, can do as God wishes, and who's to say that God didn't create all these things, this "evidence," that appears to be millions of years old to the limited, fallible human brain, just to stymie and confuse those who think they know, or can know, All?
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Well, looking at the picture, it looks real. If it turns out to be fake, it's a good one.
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stone was recovered in July 2000
It's really shaken up evolutionists...what with all the coverage by the MSM... ::)
Edit to say: Oops!
Two months ago – about the third week of May – Delk said he grabbed a 4-inch brush and began lightly brushing away sediments and deposits from the stone when he noticed something. He began to see another print develop – that of a human – partially beneath the dinosaur print.
I'll save the first comment for a couple years... :-)
From what I can tell this has not been submitted for rigorous scientific testing, even after all this time. Therefore its probative value is zero.
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I hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but isn't the whole solution staring us right in the face?
TominTib, in the back of his gift shop, finally put the finishing touches on his time machine, using all the secret and top secret ninja/SEAL/Marine/Green Beret technology he's acquired over the years. Then, he went back in time to the Cretacious period, chased a dinosaur, skinned it, made boots, and then came back.
Duh. :whatever:
:-)
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From what I can tell this has not been submitted for rigorous scientific testing, even after all this time. Therefore its probative value is zero
Exactly, and those that "think" they are real are Creationists. A bit skewed. While I'm a Catholic, I don't see the "need" for these to be real.
I hope it's true.
Why?
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The Anunaki came to earth (To mine gold to disperse as particulates in the atmosphere of their home planet Nibiru for weather control) long after the Dinosaurs had died out and created modern humans through genetic experimentation to use as their mine workers !
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They found Marshall, Will and Holly?
(http://www.sheilaomalley.com/archives/sleestak.bmp)
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I tend to agree with Splashdown. Some poor bastard got marooned by TiT on a trial run, and he's too embarassed about running from a dinosaur to say anything about it (yet, he is of course working on a version that will make him sound heroic).
Thing is, something about the prints looks a bit odd to me. But on top of that, it doesn't really disprove evolution since while a die-hard Creationist will claim it proves the world is only a few thousand years old, even if genuine it could just as easily mean there was some kind of critter with late-hominid-like feet running around 65 million years ago.
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From what I can tell this has not been submitted for rigorous scientific testing, even after all this time. Therefore its probative value is zero
Exactly, and those that "think" they are real are Creationists. A bit skewed. While I'm a Catholic, I don't see the "need" for these to be real.
I hope it's true.
Why?
For the entertainment value at the DUmp.
Watching them scratch their pointy little heads trying to
figure this out will be much fun indeed. :-)
Seriously,
I figure it might be a fake, if not, then the eggheads will have to
revise exactly when the dinosaurs died out.
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I hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but isn't the whole solution staring us right in the face?
TominTib, in the back of his gift shop, finally put the finishing touches on his time machine, using all the secret and top secret ninja/SEAL/Marine/Green Beret technology he's acquired over the years. Then, he went back in time to the Cretacious period, chased a dinosaur, skinned it, made boots, and then came back.
Duh. :whatever:
:-)
I have no doubt about the time machine theory., but what makes you think the little foot belongs to TiT?
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From what I can tell this has not been submitted for rigorous scientific testing, even after all this time. Therefore its probative value is zero
Exactly, and those that "think" they are real are Creationists. A bit skewed. While I'm a Catholic, I don't see the "need" for these to be real.
I hope it's true.
Why?
For the entertainment value at the DUmp.
Watching them scratch their pointy little heads trying to
figure this out will be much fun indeed. :-)
Seriously,
I figure it might be a fake, if not, then the eggheads will have to
revise exactly when the dinosaurs died out.
There are close relatives to dinosaurs alive today. Even if this isn't a fake, it would only add to the understanding of the overal picture of the TToE -- it far from undermines it.
But why hasn't it been submitted for analysis?
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I hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but isn't the whole solution staring us right in the face?
TominTib, in the back of his gift shop, finally put the finishing touches on his time machine, using all the secret and top secret ninja/SEAL/Marine/Green Beret technology he's acquired over the years. Then, he went back in time to the Cretacious period, chased a dinosaur, skinned it, made boots, and then came back.
Duh. :whatever:
:-)
I have no doubt about the time machine theory., but what makes you think the little foot belongs to TiT?
I figure the foot matches other diminutive aspects of TiT.