Post by: hippocritical on May 29, 2016, 09:09:22 AM
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demtenjeep (23,161 posts) Sun May 29, 2016, 03:48 AM
can you help rebuild my classroom warchest
https://www.gofundme.com/26wffbg#
For the last 5 years, I had been teaching in a setting that did not allow for hands on project based learning. Due to Sam Brownback and his hatred toward Kansas schools, my former program -which did such good for my students-was closed. Since my program was closed, I was placed into a middle school US History class needing to start all over.
i will need everything from binders, spiral notebooks, index cards, paper light, white to many colors, construction paper to poster board colored pencils, crayons, markers, glue sticks, tape, lots of it, scotch and packing tape, clear shelf liner to protect student's work. Then i will need supplies to display the finished products. Yarn, string, lightweight fishing twine , kite string, and a whole host of endless supplies.
any help would be wonderful.
if you feel so inclined.
edited by franksolich to add name of original primitive posting this
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 29, 2016, 09:17:35 AM
Post by: jukin on May 29, 2016, 10:17:59 AM
Post by: franksolich on May 29, 2016, 12:16:55 PM
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demtenjeep (23,161 posts) Sun May 29, 2016, 12:28 PM
4. i currently don't have many photos...new phone, different school computer since i was moved
we use old milk/juice cartons, potting soil and dowl rods and nuts and bolts to 'mine for gold'
i take students around the outside area and 'recreate' observation much like Lewis and Clark might have done and have students journal and then make diaries as if they were doing the expedition like Lewis and Clark might have done.
13 colonies mobile is always a fun one
we have made paper mache' globes
a ton of foldables for vocabs and essential question/answer
Civil War generals trading cards
important battles of the Civil War cubes
just anything i can think of to make it touchable, visual to make it come alive for my students
Seventy bucks from two primitives has been raised thus far, $5,000 being the goal.
Post by: franksolich on May 29, 2016, 12:19:07 PM
Sounds more like an elementary school art class.
What's scary is that she's using first- or second-grade-level "projects" for junior-high-school-aged kids.
Post by: Fourwinds on May 29, 2016, 12:37:54 PM
Please tell me that these pathetic, unintelligent, DUchebags are not anywhere near children, much less teaching them.
They've been around them for years starting in kindergarten and ending at the university level. For every person posting on DU there's at least 50 like them who do not post on DU but share the same mentality and are just as insane out there in positions teaching children.
Post by: franksolich on May 29, 2016, 01:44:46 PM
Somebody got wise to Pamela.
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noamnety (20,184 posts) Sun May 29, 2016, 10:03 AM
3. Before paying retail for all this
I would spend June/July stalking the free section of craigslist. Most of this is stuff that in my area comes up in the free offers fairly regularly.
I would also break down your costs better on the gofundme page to explain where the $5,000 figure came from and where it's all going. I'm saying this because that's about double what a typical art room budget is for the year where I teach; and you're using the supplies for art-related activities in a history class, so that can be hard to understand.
I took a look at the items you listed, and priced them out on amazon, trying to be overly generous in quantities, and it didn't even come out to a third of what you are requesting.
$100: 50 3 ring binders
$175: 125 spiral notebooks
$24: 2000 index cards
$210: 10000 sheets colored light weight construction paper
$84: 20000 sheets white copy paper
$160: 500 poster boards
$202: 72 packs of colored pencils, 24ct
$110: 60 boxes of 24ct crayons
$30: 90 glue sticks
$50: 30 rolls masking tape
$20: 20 rolls generic scotch tape
$13.50 12 rolls of packing tape
$83: 48 packs of fine point markers,
$106: 48 packs of thick markers
$100: 375 ft of clear shelf liner to protect student's work.
$50: 2,800 yards of yarn in 20 assorted colors
$16.50: 3,000 yards of lightweight fishing twine
$28.50: 5,000 feet twine/kite string
Total: $1562.50
It seems like "another 3400 in other miscellaneous expenses" is a lot to request through gofundme.
The teachers where I work have the best luck with gofundme when they ask for something very specific and can quote a price - like "this projection machine - here's a link and the price." It comes across less like a slush fund going to the teacher's pocket* with no accountability.
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Post by: Ralph Wiggum on May 29, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
Ooops.As libs & DUmmies call it, administrative costs. Same with unions.
Somebody got wise to Pamela.
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Post by: BattleHymn on May 29, 2016, 03:49:35 PM
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3400 in other miscellaneous expenses
"Miscellaneous expenses":
Let me help you with that:
http://travel.costhelper.com/mexico-cruise.html
Pool boys cost money, you know.
Post by: franksolich on May 29, 2016, 03:55:38 PM
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demtenjeep (23,168 posts) Sun May 29, 2016, 02:47 PM.
5. IT IS ONGOING ALL YEAR AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY KIDS I WILL HAVE
that was not an exact list
depends on the students, the units, the time, the behavior the inspiration
all i know is it is expensive and i have not had a raise in 8 years
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Hey Pamela.
Eight years, huh?
Who's been in the White House the past eight years?
I thought your Oreo cookie guy was going to take care of things like this.
Post by: BattleHymn on May 29, 2016, 04:04:56 PM
Isn't that what socialism is about? Taking something against someone's will, in this case, Pam's, and applying it towards a perceived need of a lesser group?
Post by: BattleHymn on May 29, 2016, 04:08:35 PM
Post by: Carl on May 29, 2016, 04:18:18 PM
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on May 29, 2016, 04:44:55 PM
If all of that stuff is so important to her, why doesn't she sell some of her own stuff to cover the costs?
Isn't that what socialism is about? Taking something against someone's will, in this case, Pam's, and applying it towards a perceived need of a lesser group?
C'mon man. Socialism is to be paid for by the OTHER guy.
Post by: I_B_Perky on May 29, 2016, 05:41:24 PM
And another thing, Battlehymn has had is own "Gofundme" campaign going since February. It's called having two ****ing jobs, you lazy bitch. You want something, go out and get it, and quit sitting around with your damn hand out in hopes of profiting off of someone else's sweat.
H5!
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 29, 2016, 07:20:44 PM
What's scary is that she's using first- or second-grade-level "projects" for junior-high-school-aged kids.
My point exactly. For a middle school history class, this only makes sense if she's teaching special ed students, which I suppose is possible if her system is cynical enough to stick those poor kids with the dud round.
Post by: BattleHymn on May 29, 2016, 07:43:16 PM
My point exactly. For a middle school history class, this only makes sense if she's teaching special ed students, which I suppose is possible if her system is cynical enough to stick those poor kids with the dud round.
Pam is so dumb that they probably stuck her in a room full of mannequins dressed to look like kids, and she hasn't noticed they're not real live students yet.
Post by: Big Dog on May 29, 2016, 08:41:20 PM
The Wichita school board is reliably Democrat, but even they know the value of a primitive.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on May 29, 2016, 09:30:55 PM
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I had been teaching in a setting that did not allow for hands on project based learning. Due to Sam Brownback and his hatred toward Kansas schools,
Gots to have them keywords, don'tcha Primitive.
:bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:
You are so full of shit.
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all i know is it is expensive and i have not had a raise in 8 years
2016-8 = ?
bOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOsh!!!111!!!!! and jooooOOOOOs
Post by: FaC on May 29, 2016, 09:36:09 PM
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noamnety (20,185 posts)
7. Maybe an initial list of specifics for now would get a better result
and do another request next school year when you have a better idea of class sizes and needs.
I think most teachers begin the year without an exact student count - the best we can do is base estimates on previous years. And then we have supply lists that are specific to the projects we know we will be doing.
I've just never seen a successful gofundme request that was in the form of "I need thousands of dollars and I have no idea what most of it is for and can't account for what I'm going to do with 2/3 of what I am asking for."
Zing - that left a mark...
Post by: Delmar on May 29, 2016, 10:29:52 PM
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Pamela Dawson 11 hours ago I don't have a lot of photos as it was over 5 years ago when I did all the cool projects teaching 8th grade and I have had a different computer and phone since then; but we used dowl rods and potting soil and nuts and bolts to pan for 'gold' I do a lot of hanging mobiles, globes, foldables, Civil War generals playing cards, industrial revolution inventions, Lewis and Clark expedition complete with 'authentic journal'
Pan for gold. That's fitting.
Like others have said, those sound like activities for little kids.
Post by: Carl on May 30, 2016, 04:28:26 AM
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Sun Mar 29, 2015, 04:52 PMhttp://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=101535.0
demtenjeep (22,151 posts)
he didn't even have a blanket of his own
I teach at a school where most kids have been in trouble for some reason or another. Expelled for drugs, or battery on staff or peers, fights or threats or any other number of things. We are their "second" chance to salvage some credits towards graduation even though they have been kicked out of mainstream schools.
I run an incentive program to aid the students in good behavior. Each week the students earn tickets every hour for doing what they are supposed to be doing. The tickets are put into a container for a chance to win one of two different items every Friday. Most of the time these are small items such as home baked goods or 5 dollar gift cards for various places.
A couple weeks ago, we had a small fleece blanket donated to use in the drawing. Not a big thing to most people.
I had a student approach me in private asking about the blanket. He said he hoped he won it because his cousin stole his blanket and he had nothing to sleep on. This is a 16 year old kid. How can he not have a blanket. (I felt really horrible especially when I thought of the three blankets we put in our dog cages)
Hubby and I went that night and bought a blanket. I took it the next day and told the student I couldn't guarantee he would win the blanket and so we "just had one" and brought it to him. He was very grateful.
HOW can someone not even have a blanket to call their own.
As part of our program, all kids are required to take a "group class" it is a therapy type class taught by a social worker. We are going to get yards of that fleece material and next year, towards Thanksgiving, we are going to teach the students we have then how to make their own blankets and they can pick out the colors they want. Then they can either keep it for themselves or give it to someone they love at Christmas.
We are going to look for grants to help pay the cost of the material because the cheapest price we have fount is 3.98 a yard. Each blanket takes 4 yards. We could have anywhere from 10 to 30 students.
I just could not believe it. And then people wonder why students do horrible on tests.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026434056
Now re read how she describes where she teaches.
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demtenjeep (23,161 posts) Sun May 29, 2016, 03:48 AM
can you help rebuild my classroom warchest
https://www.gofundme.com/26wffbg#
For the last 5 years, I had been teaching in a setting that did not allow for hands on project based learning. Due to Sam Brownback and his hatred toward Kansas schools, my former program -which did such good for my students-was closed. Since my program was closed, I was placed into a middle school US History class needing to start all over.
i will need everything from binders, spiral notebooks, index cards, paper light, white to many colors, construction paper to poster board colored pencils, crayons, markers, glue sticks, tape, lots of it, scotch and packing tape, clear shelf liner to protect student's work. Then i will need supplies to display the finished products. Yarn, string, lightweight fishing twine , kite string, and a whole host of endless supplies.
any help would be wonderful.
if you feel so inclined.
Post by: RobJohnson on May 30, 2016, 08:42:41 AM
As libs & DUmmies call it, administrative costs. Same with unions.
Shipping and handling, LOL
Post by: RobJohnson on May 30, 2016, 08:47:57 AM
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i will need everything from binders, spiral notebooks, index cards, white light ,
At first this is what I thought my eyes seen.... I will be happy to send some white light so they can play in the dirt. How dare a liberal public school teacher use the word "Christmas" when telling a blanket story?
Post by: franksolich on June 03, 2016, 06:42:01 PM
After five days, $145's been raised, $2,000 being the goal.
It looks to me as if Pamela downsized her expectations; I believe the original goal was $5,000.
Post by: franksolich on June 03, 2016, 06:43:40 PM
The original goal of $5,000 was stated in the title. I just never read it, and went from memory.
Sorry about that.
Post by: BattleHymn on June 03, 2016, 08:33:02 PM
Post by: Karin on June 04, 2016, 12:11:20 PM
Post by: SVPete on June 04, 2016, 01:02:20 PM
What's scary is that she's using first- or second-grade-level "projects" for junior-high-school-aged kids.
Maybe I'm repeating what other(s) have posted, but her projects consume much time in exchange for learning but a little information. Her program verges on avoiding teaching information!
Post by: SVPete on June 04, 2016, 01:06:09 PM
Ooops.
Somebody got wise to Pamela.
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I realize San Jose, CA isn't wherever-the-@#$%-she-lives, KS, but Santa Clara County has a Teachers Resource Center at which teachers with something that identifies them as teachers can get a lot of the kinds of materials she wants with no cost to the teachers (beyond the time and gasoline to get there).
Post by: SVPete on June 04, 2016, 01:18:30 PM
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demtenjeep (23,168 posts) Sun May 29, 2016, 02:47 PM
5. ...
all i know is it is expensive and i have not had a raise in 8 years
Ummmmm ... Governor Brownback became Governor in 2011. How is he responsible - even remotely - for her not getting raises in 2008, 2009, and 2010? In reality, teacher's contracts are negotiated at the district level, not in the Governor's office. IF her claim is true, she should focus her ire on her union and school district, not an ideologically tantalizing but irrelevant figurehead bogeyman.
But as frank so often says, "Dummies lie ... (http://www.kansas.com/news/article1096092.html). It took me, MAYBE, 30 seconds with Google to find that, not that DU-folk would think to nadin "wichita school teachers raises" (the search phrase I used)!
Post by: freedumb2003b on June 04, 2016, 01:18:35 PM
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It seems like "another 3400 in other miscellaneous expenses" is a lot to request through gofundme.
Phraseology is a little off. More accurately "another 3400 to line my pocket."
There. See how it all tidies up with just some verbiage clarity?
Post by: Big Dog on June 04, 2016, 01:22:02 PM
I realize San Jose, CA isn't wherever-the-@#$%-she-lives, KS, but Santa Clara County has a Teachers Resource Center at which teachers with something that identifies them as teachers can get a lot of the kinds of materials she wants with no cost to the teachers (beyond the time and gasoline to get there).
So, then, no transteachers- people who sincerely identify as teachers, but have no teaching contract.
Post by: SVPete on June 04, 2016, 01:40:10 PM
So, then, no transteachers- people who sincerely identify as teachers, but have no teaching contract.
No, and it is such an intolerant policy. But a creative transteacher could create their own private transschool, create letterhead on MS Word or Publisher, and write an official letter on the letterhead that identifies them as the teacher they identify as being.
Post by: Big Dog on June 04, 2016, 02:30:22 PM
No, and it is such an intolerant policy. But a creative transteacher could create their own private transschool, create letterhead on MS Word or Publisher, and write an official letter on the letterhead that identifies them as the teacher they identify as being.
Transschool should be eligible for all sorts of Federal grants. The Feds love that trans- stuff.
Post by: tanstaafl on June 04, 2016, 05:27:56 PM
So, I went and checked.
After five days, $145's been raised, $2,000 being the goal.
It looks to me as if Pamela downsized her expectations; I believe the original goal was $5,000.
Probably, franksolich. More likely is that Pam found some kind of discount for the cruise.
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 05, 2016, 05:52:50 PM
$5,000 for some miscellaneous art supplies? She is such a grifter, and whoever sent in $145 is just plain retarded. And does anyone ever remember doing dopey arts and crafts in history class? What are they making with yarn and glue besides a big mess? I'm glad noamety called her out on it.A smart panhandler never starts with an empty cup. He puts in some seed money to prime the pump.
It makes his marks feel guilty if they don't contribute the way some earlier people did.
A great example of this was when the Andyscam grifters flooded the DUmp with claims of their most recent contributions.
That's not to say Pam is smart - she's one of the DUmbest of all DUmpmonkeys.
Panhandlers just instinctively know some tricks of the trade.
Thankfully, Pam is so stupid, and her stupidity is so well known at the DUmp, her scams rarely get off the ground before someone calls her out.