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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on May 17, 2016, 04:30:04 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511983057
Oh my.
I think she's writing while drunk.
nadinbrzezinski (151,470 posts) Tue May 17, 2016, 05:15 PM
On Nevada, some relevant questions (and if you made your mind do not read, please, might cause)
some discomfort)
First off I watched this morning the interview CNN did with Mrs. Langue on this matter of phone calls. For those going, but you defend this... nope, what those are are actually, under US Code Terroristic Threats. Why am I mentioning the US Code? Because here are two relevant questions the media has not asked. They have mentioned it in passing, but not asked. And this is where a healthy dose of skepticism should come in. Yes, your spidey sense should be going danger, danger will robinson...
The first question after the pleasantries that have to do with rapport building, aka how are you doing, I am sorry this is happening to you, should have been... has a police report been filed? No police report, there is no prosecution, generally speaking. That question has not been asked.
For the record, I do hope not only that she has she filed an actual honest to goodness police report, so there is a law enforcement follow up. Whether law enforcement will find enough to go beyond a police report is a good question, since the few calls might not be enough, scary I know, to trigger that.
Here is the second point. The origin of the calls. We know at least one, thanks to a poster here, came from a San Diego based phone. Yes, 619 is one of the two area codes... actually I think we are up to three, but I digress. The NYT did mention in passing that those messages et al came from all over the country. Strangely Nevada was not mentioned.
Now I do know some Bernie supporters here in town were following Nevada, mostly though reddit. But here is where my skepticism comes in. Why would a caller from clearly the other side of a state line, who was NOT there... call and leave their phone number? We are talking potentially a felony, federal. I know criminals are idiots, trust me I know that, but this truly stretches credibility. Why media should be asking that damn question, and Ralston should have been the first one to ask. He is well known in investigative circles. His internal alarms should have gone off.
There is a very well known story of Karl Rove, bugging himself and calling the cops... that was back in the 70s, This is why my mind is going to who else might be behind here. And yes his client did win that election.. And I will actually suggest that this might not have been the clinton or sanders campaign. Suffice it to say, some folks would benefit, and that is the other question that our lovely media has not asked. Who benefits?
So here they are?
WHY
WHO Benefits
Who is calling and who is behind this?
And no, I do not expect CNN to ask those questions. Oh and by the way, leaving that 619 number behind also could be misdirection and red herring. Which should only deepen the questions.
I did a cursory check, Those tools are online, you can use them yourself. One of them actually gives you location for last call, which that particular phone was Los Angeles. I just don't feel like pulling the full string... but there is something really off about the whole thing. And yes that is the skeptic in me not willing to accept the easy explanation. Incidentally that is what CNN is doing.
Okay, somebody tell me exactly what it is the cousin said here.
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gNads has been drying that parrot crap and smoking it.
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Rove bugged himself and called in the cops in the 1970's? WTF does that mean?
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511983057
Oh my.
I think she's writing while drunk.
Okay, somebody tell me exactly what it is the cousin said here.
What she said was:
nadinbrzezinski (151,470 posts) Tue May 17, 2016, 05:15 PM
On Nevada, some relevant questions (and if you made your mind do not read, please, might cause)
some discomfort)
First off I watched this morning the interview CNN did with Mrs. Langue on this matter of phone calls. For those going, but you defend this... nope, what those are are actually, under US Code Terroristic Threats. Why am I mentioning the US Code? Because here are two relevant questions the media has not asked. They have mentioned it in passing, but not asked. And this is where a healthy dose of skepticism should come in. Yes, your spidey sense should be going danger, danger will robinson...
The first question after the pleasantries that have to do with rapport building, aka how are you doing, I am sorry this is happening to you, should have been... has a police report been filed? No police report, there is no prosecution, generally speaking. That question has not been asked.
For the record, I do hope not only that she has she filed an actual honest to goodness police report, so there is a law enforcement follow up. Whether law enforcement will find enough to go beyond a police report is a good question, since the few calls might not be enough, scary I know, to trigger that.
Here is the second point. The origin of the calls. We know at least one, thanks to a poster here, came from a San Diego based phone. Yes, 619 is one of the two area codes... actually I think we are up to three, but I digress. The NYT did mention in passing that those messages et al came from all over the country. Strangely Nevada was not mentioned.
Now I do know some Bernie supporters here in town were following Nevada, mostly though reddit. But here is where my skepticism comes in. Why would a caller from clearly the other side of a state line, who was NOT there... call and leave their phone number? We are talking potentially a felony, federal. I know criminals are idiots, trust me I know that, but this truly stretches credibility. Why media should be asking that damn question, and Ralston should have been the first one to ask. He is well known in investigative circles. His internal alarms should have gone off.
There is a very well known story of Karl Rove, bugging himself and calling the cops... that was back in the 70s, This is why my mind is going to who else might be behind here. And yes his client did win that election.. And I will actually suggest that this might not have been the clinton or sanders campaign. Suffice it to say, some folks would benefit, and that is the other question that our lovely media has not asked. Who benefits?
So here they are?
WHY
WHO Benefits
Who is calling and who is behind this?
And no, I do not expect CNN to ask those questions. Oh and by the way, leaving that 619 number behind also could be misdirection and red herring. Which should only deepen the questions.
I did a cursory check, Those tools are online, you can use them yourself. One of them actually gives you location for last call, which that particular phone was Los Angeles. I just don't feel like pulling the full string... but there is something really off about the whole thing. And yes that is the skeptic in me not willing to accept the easy explanation. Incidentally that is what CNN is doing.
What she MEANT could probably be debated for 200 years.
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I find it interesting that nads references the movie "Lost in Space" in her post.
Her post should be titled "Lost in Translation".
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Nads whips out some weapons grade irony:
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:35 PM
nadinbrzezinski (151,499 posts)
9. Asking relevant quetions is not a conspiracy theory
You need to learn the meaning of words... son.
I don't even have to say anything. I'll just put it here so you can behold it in all of its glory.
I would HIGHLY recommend rolling over for some classic nads in the nether regions of the thread. It's worth the trip over. All I'm gonna say is we need to add "Telecommunications Expert" to her resume.
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Well at least she's not "pulling the full string" WTF?
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Well at least she's not "pulling the full string" WTF?
Nads needs to listen to Bela and..."Pull za string, pull za string!!!" :rofl:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-8j8c7iL3E[/youtube]
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Well at least she's not "pulling the full string" WTF?
Ewwwwwwww
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Nads needs to listen to Bela and..."Pull za string, pull za string!!!" :rofl:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-8j8c7iL3E[/youtube]
Cue the buffalo herd!
Glen or Glenda really fits with gNads. "Neither man, nor woman..."
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Well at least she's not "pulling the full string" WTF?
:pms:
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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #39)
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:48 PM
underthematrix (2,489 posts)
43. I don't do scare tactics. That's for those other people aka as FOX HATE NEWS viewers
I simply stated what I'm doing. I'm a DEMOCRAT and yes I'm supporting the MOST qualified DEM presidential candidate. FACT is HRC is very very close to reaching the minimum of 2383 delegates. That's a fact, which means no matter how hard he tries Bernie will not catch up to HRC's delegate count.
Yes. It appears some Bernie "supporters" are GOP operatives.
Yep, but they must be the ones that work the night shift and weekends.
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She never asks relevant questions about Ensenada. What's up with that?
I think she's hiding something.
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She doesn't want to pull the full string, but apparently she did push up the slack.
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Tue May 17, 2016, 05:35 PM
nadinbrzezinski (151,499 posts)
9. Asking relevant quetions is not a conspiracy theory
You need to learn the meaning of words... son.
I don't even have to say anything. I'll just put it here so you can behold it in all of its glory.
:-)
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There is a very well known story of Karl Rove, bugging himself and calling the cops... that was back in the 70s,
Let me guess. alternet? ::)
<<< Never heard of it.
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nads, who is a bern-out but claims to be neutral, is trying to suggest that billary operatives called in the threats to the NV dem convention leader woman to make bern-outs look bad. Her basis of this belief is that the threatening calls came from out-of-state and the woman never filed a police report, thus allowing the callers to get away with it.
Her conspiracy theory, which she falsely calls relevant questions, falls apart once you realize that if billary operatives went to all the trouble to do this, why didn't they make sure the calls were all staged from NV (or at least a majority of them) and were just marginal enough in threating tones to not cross the line and therefore make any filed police reports simply an exercise in making it look legit?
Edit: Upon further reading, it seems nads believes the threats came from Republican operatives trying to divide dems, which adds a whole other level of crazy to her conspiracy theory. :mental:
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