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Title: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Wretched Excess on July 31, 2008, 03:55:42 PM
what did they give up for this  :censored: ing  :censored: ?!?!?!?  I doubt that they only lost larouche.
where the hell is he going to play?  unless they sit andruw jones, I'm not sure what they have accomplished
here.

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Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal

Manny Ramirez's stormy relationship with the Boston Red Sox appears to be over.

A baseball source has confirmed Ramirez has been traded to the Los Angeles Dodgers, ESPN.com has learned.

Jason Bay is going to Boston as part of the deal, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reported. And the Pittsburgh Pirates get four minor leaguers as part of the three-way deal.

Third baseman Andy LaRoche and right-handed pitcher Bryan Morris will go to the Pirates from the Dodgers. Outfielder Brandon Moss and right-handed pitcher Craig Hansen will leave the Red Sox orgianization for Pittsburgh, ESPN.com has learned.

WTF?!?!? (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3513383)
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Wretched Excess on July 31, 2008, 04:00:03 PM

the dodgers blog I hang out on is reporting that he will replace jones/pierre, and all of my
fave kids are still dodgers, which makes this a bit more palatable.

until I find out which minor leaguers are involved.

Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 31, 2008, 04:20:52 PM
Here they are:

Pirates get from the Red Sox:  RP Craig Hansen, OF Brandon Moss
Pirates get from the Dodgers:  3B Andy LaRoche, P Bryan Morris

The Red Sox will pay the remaining $7 million on Manny's contract.

Manny's team options have been removed and he has agreed to decline arbitration.

Bay gets $7.5 million next year.  Boston dumps salary.
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Odin's Hand on July 31, 2008, 05:38:31 PM

he will replace pierre

Hell, I'd figured you'd be popping the corks on the champagne after hearing that proposition.
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Uhhuh35 on July 31, 2008, 06:08:10 PM
So how does this benefit Boston? They dump him and his salary, that's all? Manny was a popular guy in the clubhouse and to the fans no? Seems like he was far from some cancer that had to be removed (like Bonds).
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Chris_ on July 31, 2008, 09:33:15 PM
He got what he wanted. Now he has to put up or shut up.
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Wretched Excess on July 31, 2008, 10:16:07 PM

he will replace pierre

Hell, I'd figured you'd be popping the corks on the champagne after hearing that proposition.

any reason to bench pierre is also a reason to celebrate.

but that's just what I heard.  I would assume that pierre is the odd man out, as well, but I won't believe it until I see it.  personally, I would play kemp in center and teach ethier to play right.  andruw jones is an automatic out.
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Wretched Excess on July 31, 2008, 10:16:50 PM
So how does this benefit Boston? They dump him and his salary, that's all? Manny was a popular guy in the clubhouse and to the fans no? Seems like he was far from some cancer that had to be removed (like Bonds).

boston is paying his salary for the rest of the season.  yeah, I know.  I didn't believe that part, either.
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: morningAngel on July 31, 2008, 10:27:16 PM
 :yawn: :yawn:
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Wretched Excess on July 31, 2008, 10:35:09 PM
:yawn: :yawn:

ok, cut it out.  :-) THIS is a pretty big deal.  ramirez is one of the elite bats in baseball. :hyper:
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: morningAngel on July 31, 2008, 10:42:04 PM
:yawn: :yawn:

ok, cut it out.  :-) THIS is a pretty big deal.  ramirez is one of the elite bats in baseball. :hyper:

I have a face the size of a pumpkin and the color of a grape and all you can talk about is baseball? where's the love? where's the support? where's the pillow fluffing?  for better or worse my ass  :bird:
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Wretched Excess on July 31, 2008, 10:46:31 PM
:yawn: :yawn:

ok, cut it out.  :-) THIS is a pretty big deal.  ramirez is one of the elite bats in baseball. :hyper:

I have a face the size of a pumpkin and the color of a grape and all you can talk about is baseball? where's the love? where's the support? where's the pillow fluffing?  for better or worse my ass  :bird:

but . . . but . . . but . . . it's manny ramirez. :hyper:

I hope you are feeling better :)

Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: morningAngel on July 31, 2008, 10:47:58 PM
:yawn: :yawn:

ok, cut it out.  :-) THIS is a pretty big deal.  ramirez is one of the elite bats in baseball. :hyper:

I have a face the size of a pumpkin and the color of a grape and all you can talk about is baseball? where's the love? where's the support? where's the pillow fluffing?  for better or worse my ass  :bird:

but . . . but . . . but . . . it's manny ramirez. :hyper:

I hope you are feeling better :)



you love Manny more than me  :bawl:
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Wretched Excess on July 31, 2008, 10:57:29 PM
:yawn: :yawn:

ok, cut it out.  :-) THIS is a pretty big deal.  ramirez is one of the elite bats in baseball. :hyper:

I have a face the size of a pumpkin and the color of a grape and all you can talk about is baseball? where's the love? where's the support? where's the pillow fluffing?  for better or worse my ass  :bird:

but . . . but . . . but . . . it's manny ramirez. :hyper:

I hope you are feeling better :)



you love Manny more than me  :bawl:

hardly. :wink:  I do like his OPS more than yours, though. :-)
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: morningAngel on July 31, 2008, 11:06:42 PM
:yawn: :yawn:

ok, cut it out.  :-) THIS is a pretty big deal.  ramirez is one of the elite bats in baseball. :hyper:

I have a face the size of a pumpkin and the color of a grape and all you can talk about is baseball? where's the love? where's the support? where's the pillow fluffing?  for better or worse my ass  :bird:

but . . . but . . . but . . . it's manny ramirez. :hyper:

I hope you are feeling better :)



you love Manny more than me  :bawl:

hardly. :wink:  I do like his OPS more than yours, though. :-)

If i knew what OPS was, I would probably be pissed wouldn't i?
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Wretched Excess on July 31, 2008, 11:17:55 PM
:yawn: :yawn:

ok, cut it out.  :-) THIS is a pretty big deal.  ramirez is one of the elite bats in baseball. :hyper:

I have a face the size of a pumpkin and the color of a grape and all you can talk about is baseball? where's the love? where's the support? where's the pillow fluffing?  for better or worse my ass  :bird:

but . . . but . . . but . . . it's manny ramirez. :hyper:

I hope you are feeling better :)



you love Manny more than me  :bawl:

hardly. :wink:  I do like his OPS more than yours, though. :-)

If i knew what OPS was, I would probably be pissed wouldn't i?

only if your contract was up for renegotiation :wink:
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: john c calhoun on August 01, 2008, 08:48:09 AM
the dodgers won BIGTIME... obviously joe torre has seen enough of manny to realize this ...

Ramirez is one of THE greatest 'CLUTCH' hitters of all time....

his batting average this last week was around 400 & for the season its 319....

Manny Ramirez is also one of THE greatest 2 strike sluggers in the history of baseball...

and whats the key difference between his 319 vs. Arods or many other players comparable ??

Manny Ramirez gets his hits &/or homers that drive in runs when the sox really needed it... unlike Arod that chokes in close/key games, or hits 2 homers in a game that the yankees are already winning by 10 runs....

Boston just threw away their chances at even the post season this year...

they are friggen TOAST....

dodgers gain BIGTIME ...

any dodger was negotiable to get manny....
Title: Re: Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 01, 2008, 11:20:13 AM
the dodgers won BIGTIME... obviously joe torre has seen enough of manny to realize this ...

Ramirez is one of THE greatest 'CLUTCH' hitters of all time....

his batting average this last week was around 400 & for the season its 319....

Manny Ramirez is also one of THE greatest 2 strike sluggers in the history of baseball...

and whats the key difference between his 319 vs. Arods or many other players comparable ??

Manny Ramirez gets his hits &/or homers that drive in runs when the sox really needed it... unlike Arod that chokes in close/key games, or hits 2 homers in a game that the yankees are already winning by 10 runs....

Boston just threw away their chances at even the post season this year...

they are friggen TOAST....

dodgers gain BIGTIME ...

any dodger was negotiable to get manny....

LA didn't "get" manny, they are "renting" manny for 3 months.  in order for him to agree to the trade, the dodgers had to drop the two club option years (for $20 million freaking dollars a year).  from that perspective, I think the deal was okay as it went down.  but he wasn't worth, say, kemp, ethier, billingsley, kershaw, & etc., etc.

when I first saw that this trade went down, i was SURE that colletti had dealt one of the aforementioned kids that always come up in trade discussions.  i was afraid that colletti, in order to make up for boneheaded signings like pierre and jones, not to mention schmidt and tomko, and retarded trades, like mark getting hendrickson,  or julio lugo, or losing chuck tiffany, would desperately try to make fix all of those monumental screw ups with one huge deal.

so, my very first reaction as I read "the dodgers trade for manny ramirez" on my blackberry, was abject panic.