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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: JakeStyle on April 15, 2016, 04:06:41 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511745680
She really has to tie herself into knots in order to justify being offended by the Bernie image. And always remember; it's not just another opinion when nadin posts it, it's analysis.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 04:46 PM
nadinbrzezinski (149,221 posts)
The nature of a dog whisltle
I am sure you all remember this beauty from 2008
(http://freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/obama-muslim.png)
Well this was the 2008 explanation for that one
Barack Obama's campaign team today accused Hillary Clinton's beleaguered staff of mounting a desperate dirty tricks operation by circulating a picture of him in African dress, feeding into false claims on US websites that he is a Muslim.
Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, described it as "the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we've seen from either party in this election". Obama has had to spend much of the campaign stressing he is a Christian not a Muslim and did not study at a madrassa.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton
While the campaign denied it, well it was pretty clear the Clinton Campaign had it's dirty paws in this wonderful smear. RUN, OBAMA IS BLACK AND A MUSLIM... that was the intended dog whistle, and it worked. RW media picked it up... in fact, worked so well that RW media, like Breitbart and company ran with that. and Rush was a pleasure to listen to as to how Obama had to be a muslim. Hell Rush kept it going for years as part of his act.
These days we have some users here using this lovely avatar. For the record, this is not a Clinton dirty trick... it is the kind of crap that is being tolerrated though, and as a good dog whistle, you are not supposed to hear thiem if it is not aimed at you, it took me a little white to figure this out.
So here it is
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/74b2/at5pd563ndh71w76g.jpg)
It is such a lovely image.
So let's start decoding this one, m'kay.
It is part of the Marian devotion, and includes the heart of Mary. This is what this devotion is all about
The love which Mary bears us is similar to that manifested towards us by her Divine Son when, while on earth, he sought sinners rather than the just; our condition as sinners, far from opposing an obstacle, is rather a claim upon her. In this point, as in all others, Mary walks faithfully in the footsteps of her Son and model, and if she loves the just with a love of complacency because of their virtues, the love of compassion and mercy which she feels for sinners is still greater, not because they are worthy of it, but because of their greater necessities. Finally the material heart of Mary, by means of which we should raise our thoughts to the spiritual, is ordinarily represented not only with New flames escaping from it, which figure her love, and crowned with flowers, emblems of her virtues, but also pierced with a sword, to call our attention to her sorrows.
http://catholicharboroffaithandmorals.com/Immaculate%20Heart%20of%20Mary%20popup.html
Now I am not stretching this when I say that this defacing of a sacred image is anti Catholic, It does not matter whether you do it with Photoshop, or a spray can. In case you wonder, this is part of the Federal HATE CRIME statues as well, for physical crimes. I think we all can agree, that for the moment a photoshop hack job does not rise, YET, to the category of an actual crime.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/federal-statutes
This is also part of a long tradition in the United States. It is not a pleasant tradition. It goes back to the earliest days of the Colonies. I could give you oodles of books to go read, but the Guardian had a nice little piece before Pope Francis visited recently.
The land of immigrants enshrined freedom of religion in the constitution yet spent much of its history despising, harassing and marginalising Catholics.
From the first Puritan settlers to televangelists, leading political, business and religious figures lambasted followers of Rome as theological abominations and traitorous fifth columnists.
“When you look back at the true, hidden history of the United States this strand of anti-Catholicism is very powerful,†said Kenneth Davis, a prominent historian and commentator.
“We want to show this patriotic view that we were this melting pot of religious freedom. Nonsense. People wanted their own religious freedom, not freedom for others. There was a very, very deep hatred of Catholics.â€
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/12/america-history-of-hating-catholics
Some here might remember the religious wars that wracked Europe, but this hate of the Catholic and all things catholic is not gone. The purposeful defacing of an image to "make fun of Bernie Sanders supporters," as some of you claim is just cover. This is as vile as it gets. And I admit it, since it was on a RELIGIOUS image my radar for dog whistles was thrown off for a few.
Now you are also engaging in some old fashioned antisemitism. The choice of image points to a heart. Hearts usually pump blood, and blood libel has a very long history. That history goes back to the middle ages and led directly to the death of people.
Now I have tried telling some of the folks (two to be exact) that this is a troublesome image, Just as troublesome as the one of Obama in a Turban that at least I hope you would not defend today, but I am not sure anymore. When this is explained to you, and you keep laughing it off, you either are tone deaf, possible, or like a poster that blew her cover somewhere else, this is what you are. There is no question in my mind that just like anti AA sentiments went though the roof in 2008, and people got a license to engage in them, so is the candidacy of a Jewish man a license for some to engage in dog whistle politics of the worst kind.
You want to disagree with people on policy have at it. That is what primaries are about. Once you cross into using imagery like this, you have crossed into at the very least dirty tricks territory. And now you cannot claim you were just kidding and it was a way to make a joke at bernie supporters and the beatification of a jew (more dog whistles by the way) As far as I am concerned, this is quite anti-Semitic, and anti-Catholic and it is far from funny.
Have at it, I expect this to be alerted and possibly closed as Meta. But this is what it is.
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tl;dr
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511745680
She really has to tie herself into knots in order to justify being offended by the Bernie image. And always remember; it's not just another opinion when nadin posts it, it's analysis.
analysis? or anal cysts? Remember she has a spelling disability.
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WTF, over?
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No typos? Proofreading?
Nadin could not have written this. She must have stolen this from somewhere.
and Nads, that Bernie picture is NOT a hate crime. Free Speech means there are no hate speech crimes. If there were, all of DU would have been shut down long ago.
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Some dogs hear more whistles then others.
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Nads even gave us what the dog whistle she hears sounds like:
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:41 PM
nadinbrzezinski (149,276 posts)
54. Whoosh!!!
Whoosh!!!
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Teh gNads hears the retired submarine screendoor repair tech calling her to lunch.
woofewoofwoof 🐶
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WTF, over?
:shrug:
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That's an exceptionally long imaginary analysis she invented there, and all because some simple-minded liberal (pardon the redundancy) decided they wanted to poke at the bern for going to the Vatican by photoshopping the berns' face on the body of Mary.
nads, it's just a photoshop some idiot came up with in an hour or so. That's it. Nothing more. You liberals just don't think that deep. And when a liberal does dare venture to in-depth inquiry (always with the guiding hand of a conservative) on any topic, they don't come up with the silliness you just did.
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Some dogs hear more whistles then others.
H-5 earned and issued.
No typos? Proofreading?
Nadin could not have written this. She must have stolen this from somewhere.
and Nads, that Bernie picture is NOT a hate crime. Free Speech means there are no hate speech crimes. If there were, all of DU would have been shut down long ago.
It took me a couple of minutes, but I think I follow her sinuous "reasoning". Her claim is that The CHILL has a history of hate speech. Without proof, nads claims that the pic of BHO began to be circulated by the Clinton campaign, and it's racist because some conservatives take it as evidence that BHO is a Muslim (the problem with that claim is that if there's any racism, it's not in the picture, which did happen). And nads is claiming that the fauxtoshop of Bernie-as-Mary is anti-Catholic. :o :mental: :whatever: :rotf: Of itself, her claim is just dumb. And, again, nads offers no evidence the cartoon/caricature came from the Clinton Campaign.
If nads were really worried about anti-Catholic bigotry, she should look closer to her DU home, maybe starting with TMN. And maybe nads should be worried, too, about Ds, Libs, and Progs being susceptible to "anti-Catholic" imagery.
Or maybe nads' post means, "Yes, please super-duper-size my meal."
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El Guapo,this is about as dumb as a box of crayons all made with one color in it.
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I appreciate that she went deep. I might have gone with the bernie image as some kind of subconscious liberal fantasy that all males are nurturing women. Seems to fit in with their whole thing about manly chicks and wimpy dudes.
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Nads even gave us what the dog whistle she hears sounds like:
Whoosh!!!
Maybe she was palling around with the hoyt primitive and ate one of his cans of beans.
Deadly enough to kill a parrot at 25 paces.
:whistling:
CMD
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Maybe she was palling around with the hoyt primitive and ate one of his cans of beans.
Deadly enough to kill a parrot at 25 paces.
:whistling:
CMD
Don't under-estimate the power of a bicycle tire or a staff.
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Yes it was tldr. All's I have to say is that picture of Barack Hussein makes him look like the biggest ****ing dork in the world. He's wearing a little pinafore dress!