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Title: DUmmies love science until it tells them something they don't want to hear
Post by: BannedFromDU on April 02, 2016, 10:37:05 AM
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Star Member True Earthling (718 posts)

Study finds marijuana not "safer" than alcohol
4 decades long study published in the March 23 edition of peer-reviewed journal Clinical Psychological Science...

Heavy, persistent pot use linked to economic and social problems at midlife

https://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish/news/newsroom/10874

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“Our study found that regular cannabis users experienced downward social mobility and more financial problems such as troubles with debt and cash flow than those who did not report such persistent use,” she said. “Regular long-term users also had more antisocial behaviors at work, such as stealing money or lying to get a job, and experienced more relationship problems, such as intimate partner violence and controlling abuse.”

The comprehensive study is important because it addresses an array of potentially confounding factors not included in past studies assessing cannabis’ long-term effects on users, and it raises awareness of the consequences that persistent cannabis use poses to families, communities and national social welfare systems.

Economic and social problems persisted in long-term, regular users of pot even after the authors accounted for other potential differences between regular cannabis users and other study participants, including socioeconomic problems in childhood, lower IQ, antisocial behavior and depression in adolescence, higher levels of impulsivity, lower motivation to achieve, criminal conviction of cannabis users, and abuse of alcohol and hard drugs.

“These findings did not arise because cannabis users were prosecuted and had a criminal record,” said Caspi, a psychologist with dual appointments at Duke University and the Institute of Psychiatry at King’s College London who is senior author of the study. “Even among cannabis users who were never convicted for a cannabis offense, we found that persistent and regular cannabis use was linked to economic and social problems.”


download study here (PDF):
http://cpx.sagepub.com/content/early/2016/03/16/2167702616630958.full.pdf?ijkey=PjD9gu0wSdxIDI9&keytype=finite


You just know how this peer-revied research is going to go over on DU. You know, DU: that site where climate change is known for certain to be manmade, because SCIENCE. Except, of course, when science is WRONG, like when it comes to something pretty well-known about pot. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027733382)

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killbotfactory (12,972 posts)
1. That's funny. I had economic and social problems long before I tried marijuana. nt

And it SO helped you escape them huh?

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7. Hmm. Correlation is interesting, but one has to wonder if it's more about other factors.

Were these people self-treating mood disorders, anxiety disorders, personality disorders with daily substance use. Of course, there's also the factor that moderation with anything is important.


Um, no, DUmmy. You assholes have sworn that unlimited weed is perfectly safe for all, with no limitations.

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GliderGuider (19,195 posts)
14. "Linked to" ... as a cause or an effect?

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Crickets.

What unmitigated bullshit.


The causal effects of dope are already well-known: it's called Democratic Underground.


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Faux pas (6,338 posts)
21. I call

BS!!!! It's never caused me, or any of my fellow tokers any problems. In fact, we've all been fairly successful in our lives.


Ah yes, the old Sample of One defense. Here's DUmmy, let me use Sample of One on something else, and you tell me how credible I seem:

"Climate change? Bullshit. I've felt completely comfortably cool all my life."


Title: Re: DUmmies love science until it tells them something they don't want to hear
Post by: Carl on April 02, 2016, 11:54:05 AM
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Faux pas (6,338 posts)
21. I call

BS!!!! It's never caused me, or any of my fellow tokers any problems. In fact, we've all been fairly successful in our lives.

No you have not unless you consider (which you do) a life as a useless leech a success.

**** off and die asshole and I really do wish that.
Title: Re: DUmmies love science until it tells them something they don't want to hear
Post by: Mr Mannn on April 02, 2016, 12:15:16 PM
The only reason DUmmies love science is stem cell research supported abortion. once they saw that science could justify killing babies, they loved science and declared their enemies Luddites.

Title: Re: DUmmies love science until it tells them something they don't want to hear
Post by: Karin on April 02, 2016, 01:55:00 PM
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BS!!!! It's never caused me, or any of my fellow tokers any problems. In fact, we've all been fairly successful in our lives.

Not buying it.  To be successful, you have to want to actually get out of bed in the morning.  Weed makes you lethargic and loagy. 
Title: Re: DUmmies love science until it tells them something they don't want to hear
Post by: Carl on April 02, 2016, 05:56:52 PM
Not buying it.  To be successful, you have to want to actually get out of bed in the morning.  Weed makes you lethargic and loagy.

We have all known stoners,they are useless.
Title: Re: DUmmies love science until it tells them something they don't want to hear
Post by: fatboy on April 02, 2016, 06:27:00 PM
marijuana is the opium of the DUmmies!
Title: Re: DUmmies love science until it tells them something they don't want to hear
Post by: franksolich on April 02, 2016, 07:31:30 PM
Not buying it.  To be successful, you have to want to actually get out of bed in the morning.  Weed makes you lethargic and loagy.

This is so blatantly obvious I'm appalled that it's escaped notice for so many years, so many decades.

That was one of my very first observations about dope when I was still a teenager; that while it may have made people relaxed and mellow, at the same time it made them listless, lethargic, unmotivated, for hours, for days, afterwards.

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During the late 1970s, the early 1980s, many who smoked dope also happened to be politically liberal.....and ostensibly sympathetic to the plight of peasants in the third world (this was a time when food was scarce or too high-priced for them).

The peasants had no food, or no cheap food, because the western first-world demand for marijuana was so great it was foolhardy to grow food.

(This mostly pertained to uppermost South America.)

Dopeheads could never see that their greed for the weed was causing tens of millions of others to go hungry, and even starve to death.  So much for the social concerns of the dopeheads. 
Title: Re: DUmmies love science until it tells them something they don't want to hear
Post by: Delmar on April 02, 2016, 07:44:25 PM
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Response to 21st Century Poet (Reply #20)Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:43 AM
Star Member eShirl (14,147 posts)
33. wow, that sounds really scientific
I have seen plenty of middle age, lifelong pot smokers. They are called jazz musicians.
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Response to eShirl (Reply #33)Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:49 AM
Star Member roody (9,902 posts)
41. And teachers and lawyers, etc.
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Response to roody (Reply #41)Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:19 PM
HuckleB (33,055 posts)
124. Fund raisers, funeral directors...
Teleprompter readers, golfers...
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