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Title: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: dutch508 on March 28, 2016, 02:29:58 PM
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Star Member MrScorpio (64,375 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/118747502

The Skin I’m In: I’ve been interrogated by police more than 50 times—all because I’m black

 ::)

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My parents immigrated to Canada from Freetown, Sierra Leone, in the mid-1970s. I was born in Red Deer, Alberta, and soon after, we moved to Oshawa, where my father was a mental health nurse and my mother a registered nurse who worked with the elderly.

He's from Canada. Liberal safe place.

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gordianot (9,144 posts)
2. I saw this first hand when I was 14.

In a group of 6-7 asshole kids the cop put the two black kids in the car. It took me the next day to learn exactly why that happened.

He's from Canada.

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Star Member TygrBright (14,408 posts)
6. Thank you for posting this, MrScorpio

There are really no words for the sorrow and anger these truths evoke.

I'm a white woman. Every time I search my memory for each instance where fear of black people, particularly black men, was deliberately, casually, or unconsciously imparted to me from childhood on, I find more.

In so many ways, casual and deliberate, conscious and unconscious, I was exposed to the fear of those different from me. It was inevitable that the combination of fear and privilege would result in racism.

I can't change the past, I can't undo the racism I absorbed then.

What I can do, I can do now.

I will attend and be alert on my own responses. I will make recognizing my own unconscious fear and rejecting it a priority.

I will make recognizing the privilege that is part of my life as a white person a priority.

I will stay alert for opportunities to reject and counteract both fear and privilege.

I will commit awareness and resources to that rejection, to that counteraction.

I will banish assumptions about what I haven't experienced, and can't know.

I will listen to the experiences of those who had no choice but to suffer from the fear and privilege given to me and those like me.

I will learn.

determinedly,
Bright

 ::)

He's from Canada

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Star Member wildeyed (8,516 posts)
7. Absolutely. Great post.

Waaaay back in the day when I was late teens or early 20's, I recall that I either read or heard something on the radio about how we are all a bit racist, just because of the culture that we live in.

What I have come to believe is that racism is like air. It is there, it has mass, but because it is invisible, we don't think about it much, almost like it doesn't exist. So when I read this article, initially, I was like NO way! *I* am NOT racist! I have black friends! I live in a predominantly black neighborhood and city! But then I thought, Hey let's find out to be sure. So I observed my internal reactions, and was quickly realized, that yep, I was stereotyping black people, particularly black men who were poor and young. Since then, I make a conscious effort to be aware of my interior attitudes. Because the air I breath is dirty with racism, it makes sense that it gets inside me sometimes. So I work to clean it out.

I wish more white people would get this concept, that we are all a little bit racist, but that we can make an effort to improve. If enough of us make an effort together, then the air will get cleaner, and THEN we will make actual progress.

He's from Canada.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: SVPete on March 28, 2016, 03:33:55 PM
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Star Member MrScorpio (64,375 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/118747502

The Skin I’m In: I’ve been interrogated by police more than 50 times—all because I’m black

Ri-i-i-i-ight.

* How many of those "interrogations" never went past, "Could I see your ID?"

* How many of those "interrogations" were part of an investigation of a crime to which MrS may have had links?

* How many of those "interrogations" were part of an investigation of a crime to which MrS had been IDed by a witness or to which MrS had been linked by physical evidence or stolen property?

* In how many of those "interrogations" did the cops jump out of the bushes or from behind a billboard?
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: Carl on March 28, 2016, 03:52:53 PM
He is counting traffic stops for speeding etc.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: freedumb2003b on March 28, 2016, 03:54:41 PM
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Star Member TygrBright (14,408 posts)
6. Thank you for posting this, MrScorpio

There are really no words for the sorrow and anger these truths evoke.

I'm a white woman. Every time I search my memory for each instance where fear of black people, particularly black men, was deliberately, casually, or unconsciously imparted to me from childhood on, I find more.

In so many ways, casual and deliberate, conscious and unconscious, I was exposed to the fear of those different from me. It was inevitable that the combination of fear and privilege would result in racism.

I can't change the past, I can't undo the racism I absorbed then.

What I can do, I can do now.

I will attend and be alert on my own responses. I will make recognizing my own unconscious fear and rejecting it a priority.

I will make recognizing the privilege that is part of my life as a white person a priority.

I will stay alert for opportunities to reject and counteract both fear and privilege.

I will commit awareness and resources to that rejection, to that counteraction.

I will banish assumptions about what I haven't experienced, and can't know.

I will listen to the experiences of those who had no choice but to suffer from the fear and privilege given to me and those like me.

I will learn.

determinedly,
dim

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb456/sonofreiko/lulz/whitewomen4.gif)
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: freedumb2003b on March 28, 2016, 03:58:17 PM
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Star Member wildeyed (8,516 posts)
7. Absolutely. Great post.

Waaaay back in the day when I was late teens or early 20's, I recall that I either read or heard something on the radio about how we are all a bit racist, just because of the culture that we live in.

What I have come to believe is that racism is like air. It is there, it has mass, but because it is invisible, we don't think about it much, almost like it doesn't exist. So when I read this article, initially, I was like NO way! *I* am NOT racist! I have black friends! I live in a predominantly black neighborhood and city! But then I thought, Hey let's find out to be sure. So I observed my internal reactions, and was quickly realized, that yep, I was stereotyping black people, particularly black men who were poor and young. Since then, I make a conscious effort to be aware of my interior attitudes. Because the air I breath is dirty with racism, it makes sense that it gets inside me sometimes. So I work to clean it out.

I wish more white people would get this concept, that we are all a little bit racist, but that we can make an effort to improve. If enough of us make an effort together, then the air will get cleaner, and THEN we will make actual progress.

I am "smartist."  I am 100% completely prejudiced against stupid people.  By stupid I don't mean genetic intelligence.  I know plenty of Downs' Syndrome people smarter than the DUmp monkeys (low bar, I know).
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: SVPete on March 28, 2016, 04:02:40 PM
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Star Member TygrBright (14,408 posts)
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What I can do, I can do now.

I will attend and be alert on my own responses. I will make recognizing my own unconscious fear and rejecting it a priority.

I will make recognizing the privilege that is part of my life as a white person a priority.

I will stay alert for opportunities to reject and counteract both fear and privilege.

I will commit awareness and resources to that rejection, to that counteraction.

I will banish assumptions about what I haven't experienced, and can't know.

I will listen to the experiences of those who had no choice but to suffer from the fear and privilege given to me and those like me.

I will learn.

Does anyone speak Gibberish? I need a translator.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: Chris_ on March 28, 2016, 04:09:03 PM
TygrBright will be offended on your behalf. :whatever:
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: SVPete on March 28, 2016, 04:28:14 PM
TygrBright will be offended on your behalf. :whatever:

Is that her meaning? How will I be able to tell the difference? DU-folk seem to be offended by the half of the world that disagrees with them, the quarter that doesn't give a @#$% about what they believe, and the remaining quarter who agree with them 99.999% of the time, because of that .001% disagreement.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on March 28, 2016, 04:28:37 PM
Does anyone speak Gibberish? I need a translator.

Gibberish? No.

Jive? Yes.

Axe me any tin.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: USA4ME on March 28, 2016, 04:34:14 PM
Quote from:
wildeyed

So I observed my internal reactions, and was quickly realized, that yep, I was stereotyping black people, particularly black men who were poor and young.

I stereotype everyone. Saves me a ton of money.

.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: SVPete on March 28, 2016, 04:37:41 PM
Gibberish? No.

Jive? Yes.

Axe me any tin.

Oh, good! I've need one ever since Barbara Billingsley died in 2010.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on March 28, 2016, 04:39:27 PM
Oh, good! I've need one ever since Barbara Billingsley died in 2010.

I'll give you rate quote. I don't speak that sh*t for free!

:lol:
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: zeitgeist on March 28, 2016, 04:47:04 PM
Gibberish? No.

Jive? Yes.

Axe me any tin.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U[/youtube]
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on March 28, 2016, 04:51:40 PM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U[/youtube]

Yo dawg. White privilege over black street talk, huh?

Why post a movie with white people?

Why do you hate blacks?

:rofl:
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: Chris_ on March 28, 2016, 04:57:58 PM
Yo dawg. White privilege over black street talk, huh?

Why post a movie with white people?

Why do you hate blacks?

:rofl:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJR2Q45Jvz0[/youtube]
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: zeitgeist on March 28, 2016, 04:59:11 PM
Yo dawg. White privilege over black street talk, huh?

Why post a movie with white people?

Why do you hate blacks?

:rofl:

What you talkin 'bout Willis??

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJC2gZW0KGU[/youtube]

 :rotf:
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on March 28, 2016, 05:12:12 PM
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Star Member TygrBright (14,408 posts)
6. Thank you for posting this, MrScorpio

There are really no words for the sorrow and anger these truths evoke.

Give it a rest, 'tard, there's two.

"utter" and "bullshit".
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on March 28, 2016, 05:14:19 PM
TygrBright will be offended on your behalf. :whatever:

 :-)  Just waiting for the right color of post.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on March 28, 2016, 05:15:46 PM
Ri-i-i-i-ight.

* How many of those "interrogations" never went past, "Could I see your ID?"

* How many of those "interrogations" were part of an investigation of a crime to which MrS may have had links?

* How many of those "interrogations" were part of an investigation of a crime to which MrS had been IDed by a witness or to which MrS had been linked by physical evidence or stolen property?

* In how many of those "interrogations" did the cops jump out of the bushes or from behind a billboard?

How many of those 50 never occurred.

Most, if not all.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on March 28, 2016, 05:26:09 PM
How many of those 50 never occurred.

Most, if not all.

It might just be me, but I picture an interrogation as being in a room, with Gibbs, for 10 hours. THAT is an interrogation.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: thundley4 on March 28, 2016, 06:05:44 PM
I stereotype everyone. Saves me a ton of money.

I do too, but my stereotypes aren't based on skin color.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: I_B_Perky on March 28, 2016, 07:28:36 PM
Whad I did?!?!?!  I din do nuffins!!!!  Gnome what I sayin?  Them rocks ain't mine. Somebody put them down my pants while I was crashing... gnome what I saying?  I done woked up and seen you homies and thought was you gonna kill me.  You feel me here?


This was an actual conversation between a LEO and black guy that ran from the cops. They caught him, searched him and found it stuffed down his pants. On camera. On national TV. The show is Cops on Spike TV.

Sorry black person, clean up your own race before you go crying to me about racism.  I have no sympathy.  None. Zero.

Does that make me racist? So be it.  Don't care if it was in canada. The problem is not your race, it is your culture.  Clean that up and then we can have a discussion.  Until then... FOAD.

Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: Tess Anderson on March 28, 2016, 08:10:28 PM
This is just another immigrant whining, so why is Dorkio posting this? He should be out investigating the person that sent bravenak those letters as he said he would. Looks like the blowhard that he is again. I have been waiting and waiting for Dork's report.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: USA4ME on March 28, 2016, 08:31:48 PM
This is just another immigrant whining, so why is Dorkio posting this? He should be out investigating the person that sent bravenak those letters as he said he would. Looks like the blowhard that he is again. I have been waiting and waiting for Dork's report.

No kidding!! I'm closer to knowing who did it than the boy primitive is.

.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: Mr Mannn on March 28, 2016, 09:40:22 PM
A steady stream of pseudo-victimhood...
all part of this nutritious Black Breakfast. 
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: hillneck on March 29, 2016, 07:03:46 AM
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Star Member MrScorpio (64,375 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/118747502

The Skin I’m In: I’ve been interrogated by police more than 50 times—all because I’m black

Then quit selling dope on the street corner.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: txradioguy on March 29, 2016, 07:34:28 AM
I've been stopped for 30 minutes by the local cops before for a busted headlight.  Waited while the cop ran my DL through every database in the state looking for a "probably cause" excuse to search my car...all because of what time of night it was.

I've been pulled over in Tampa Florida on the "bad" side of town and questioned about why a white kid like me was in that neighborhood that time of night. (I was dropping off an employee of my FIL who lived there)

German Polizei follow soldiers waiting for them to not use their turn signal in order to pull them over.

So what exactly was the point that Scorpio X was trying to make?
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on March 29, 2016, 07:47:35 AM
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Star Member TygrBright (14,408 posts)
6. Thank you for posting this, MrScorpio

There are really no words for the sorrow and anger these truths evoke.

I'm a white woman. Every time I search my memory for each instance where fear of black people, particularly black men, was deliberately, casually, or unconsciously imparted to me from childhood on, I find more.

In so many ways, casual and deliberate, conscious and unconscious, I was exposed to the fear of those different from me. It was inevitable that the combination of fear and privilege would result in racism.

I can't change the past, I can't undo the racism I absorbed then.

What I can do, I can do now.

I will attend and be alert on my own responses. I will make recognizing my own unconscious fear and rejecting it a priority.

I will make recognizing the privilege that is part of my life as a white person a priority.

I will stay alert for opportunities to reject and counteract both fear and privilege.

I will commit awareness and resources to that rejection, to that counteraction.

I will banish assumptions about what I haven't experienced, and can't know.

I will listen to the experiences of those who had no choice but to suffer from the fear and privilege given to me and those like me.

I will learn.

determinedly,
Bright
That is all fine and good but you will still avoid "that" part of town won't you?
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: Duke Nukum on March 29, 2016, 07:49:10 AM
I would like to know what DUmmie was doing.  50 times is a lot. Maybe he's just unlucky and he has passed 30 or 40 banks just as they were being robbed. Or maybe he hung out with bad people.

Of course, the DUmmie will never be truthful about it. He just wants to surgically remove 50 police interrogations from time, space, and circumstance to make a political point.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: txradioguy on March 29, 2016, 07:53:27 AM
I would like to know what DUmmie was doing.  50 times is a lot. Maybe he's just unlucky and he has passed 30 or 40 banks just as they were being robbed. Or maybe he hung out with bad people.

Of course, the DUmmie will never be truthful about it. He just wants to surgically remove 50 police interrogations from time, space, and circumstance to make a political point.

Yeah knowing the DUmmies...this has all been one big lame bouncy.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: thundley4 on March 29, 2016, 10:08:32 AM

So what exactly was the point that Scorpio X was trying to make?

His point was that he is an Angry Black ManTM with a chip on his shoulder that was put there by liberals and built up by hate speech from black leaders.
Title: Re: It's because I'm black, isn't it?
Post by: txradioguy on March 29, 2016, 10:11:19 AM
His point was that he is an Angry Black ManTM with a chip on his shoulder that was put there by liberals and built up by hate speech from black leaders.

Ahhh ok gotcha.