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Title: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: dutch508 on March 27, 2016, 07:20:48 AM
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Star Member gabeana (1,805 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027717682

Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?

Dem's were in control of both houses
that is the problem with the establishment of the party, as George Carlin said it is a club we are not a part of and never will be
and Hillary for Dems like me see her as representing that club
just like the Bush cabal Oabma didn't even try to touch


 :???:

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Jackie Wilson Said (1,070 posts)
8. Impeached and jailed. But he wasnt because of that club you talk about, funny though the club disappeared when Bill got his blow job.

Sorry to be sensitive, I just saw someone who I know will never vote for Hillary saying they will put country and it's people over party.

But not enough to save them from Trump.

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billhicks76 (4,068 posts)
75. Because All Faith In Our System Would've Vanished

Because Bush Sr was coordinating shipments of cocaine by the tonnage while locking up kids for decades over grams. That's the ******* truth. The lies would've unraveled all faith. And you can bet your ass Bill Clinton was allowing this through Arkansas and was Bush Sr's poodle.

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Tony_FLADEM (2,729 posts)
2. Because Reagan went on television and confessed to trading arms for hostages but he did so in a way that was sort of disarming.

He said I still believe we didn't trade arms for hostages but the facts tell me otherwise.

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Star Member sulphurdunn (6,421 posts)
57. Oliver North wore the uniform of The United States to testify before congress, raised his hand, swore to tell the truth and proceeded to lie through the gap in his teeth. He disgraced and shamed himself. Better men have been dishonorably discharged for less.

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Star Member libtodeath (1,919 posts)
6. They knew what his mental capacity was and also knew and feared the BFEE behind the scenes.

of course. ALL the Presidents who were [R]s are idiots and mentally challanged while every [D] is a ****ing genius.

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Star Member gabeana (1,805 posts)
11. Sorry don't know what BFEE means also I see your avatar and sickens me that the racist piece of shit Reagan defeated an honorable man Carter

 :thatsright:

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blm (96,042 posts)
7. The media was uncomfortable with it - they knew then he was showing signs of serious illness. Kerry was treated worse by the press for uncovering IranContra. And, IranContra was GHWBush's operation. I doubt Reagan knew even 10% of what was going on.

In fact, it was Bush's office who called Newsweek to force Robert Parry out of his job investigating IranContra. He was labeled a 'zealot'.

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4nic8em (418 posts)
35. **This**

I was no fan of Ronald Reagan but during the Iran/Contra hearings with Oliver North and Admiral Poindexter (both Reagan fall guys) they had Reagan on the stand and answered "I don't remember" about sixty times...It was obvious by that time he was very clearly suffering from dementia (Alzheimer's). I actually felt sorry for him being questioned, his mental health was clearly impaired. FWIW this is why Nancy Reagan started to support STEM cell research (to the wailing and gnashing of teeth from GOP).

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1939 (1,196 posts)
25. Iran-Contra Hearings

The Democrats on the investigating committee immunized Admiral Poindexter in order to get the goods on Reagan.

Poindexter then testified that it was all his fault that Iran-Contra happened and that he had made the key decision on his own.

There was a loud sound of air escaping from the balloon and the committee was pretty much over. No implication of Reagan and the confessed "guilty party" had been granted complete immunization.

In the end, the major conviction was Ollie North spending a government travelers check in a Rite Aid.

Have you ever wondered what a leftist history book would look like?

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Star Member csziggy (19,697 posts)
42. Years ago I heard a NPR interview with Lawrence Walsh, the Independent Counsel

Who investigate Iran Contra. He said that when he interviewed Reagan he could tell that Reagan was failing mentally so there was really no point in prosecuting him. I think that interview was around 1997 when Walsh's book was released. Unfortunately I don't have a program that will play the format the old interview is in on the NPR web site - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1039548

A discussion when Walsh died - at the age of 102 - mentions how angry Walsh was when Geogre H. W. Bush pardoned the Iran Contra active people - http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=291999738&m=292008416

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Lochloosa (9,882 posts)
49. Because William Casey, the person that authorized the weapons for hostages...

had an emergency operation the day before he was to testify before the committee investigating Iran/Contra. During the operation, to remove a brain tumor, nerves were damaged that left him unable to speak.

 Most likely, he was the "link" in the chain that led to Raygun.

I always wondered how the CIA could give you a brain tumor on such short notice.

 :thatsright:

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Thespian2 (2,459 posts)
74. In the nineties Dems did

not go after the thugs in RayGuns administration because:
1. They didn't even share one good, straight, solid backbone.
2. George H. W. Bush pardoned potential convicts.
3. Since Dems suck bucks from the same pig-skin wallets, as the Repugs, treading on the toes of the same mega-donors who supported the "wonderful work of the contras and the GodOffalParty would have cost them money.

And I am sure there were plenty of reasons to put RayGun in prison...Dems were afraid some of them could have to respond to charges to them. Remember also that RayGun thought he was still doing scenes from the B-Movies...often awakening from a nap during a cabinet meeting to slug down some Jelly beans and began acting as though he was doing a scene from a movies...

Best summed up by Never kick a fire-ant hill while standing on it...

Big Dog was guilty of vacuuming up large amounts of money...

 :bird:

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John Poet (1,707 posts)
84. Reagan DENIED KNOWING that the operation was going on, and Democrats had no real proof that he DID know.

In the statements referred to upthread, Reagan "accepted responsibility" for it because it came out of his administration, but he denied knowing about it before it was outed in the press.

Then Oliver North took the ultimate fall for it.

The truth is, the whole damned operation was being directed out of Vice President Bush's office, but he claimed to be "out of the loop" and the press didn't do enough digging. (This still is never discussed in the mainstream press.)
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: Mr Mannn on March 27, 2016, 08:05:15 AM
Little Brownshirts filled with hate. Even in victory they are consumed with hate.
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: SVPete on March 27, 2016, 08:41:59 AM
Wow! Talk about "dog-whistles"! Sound the Iran-Contra dog-whistle and all the conspiracy-theory bile comes gushing out!

Reagan served his full 8 years and died honored and in peace. Savor it, bitter Progs!

G. H. W. Bush served his full 4 years and will die honored and in peace. Savor it, bitter Progs!

G. W. Bush served his full 8 years and will die honored and in peace. Savor it, bitter Progs!

Carter served his full 4 years and will die in peace, having made himself an object of derision. Savor it, bitter Progs!

Clinton served his full 8 years and will die in peace (assuming The CHILL doesn't totally lose it after catching him with a chubby intern) having made himself an object of derision. Savor it, bitter Progs!

Obama will have served his full 8 years having made himself an object of derision through his utter ineptitude, racism, self-indulgence at taxpayer expense, and MOO-chelle's diet-and-fitness hypocrisy. Savor it, bitter Progs!
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: Movie buff- The Sequel on March 27, 2016, 12:09:19 PM
Obama will have served his full 8 years having made himself an object of derision through his utter ineptitude, racism, self-indulgence at taxpayer expense, and MOO-chelle's diet-and-fitness hypocrisy. Savor it, bitter Progs!
Not just self- indulgence at taxpayer expense, but self- indulgence at taxpayer expense all the while regularly giving sanctimonious speeches about how regular Americans need to start "Making a few sacrifices" in their personal lives during our country's hard economic times.
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on March 27, 2016, 04:35:25 PM
Not just self- indulgence at taxpayer expense, but self- indulgence at taxpayer expense all the while regularly giving sanctimonious speeches about how regular Americans need to start "Making a few sacrifices" in their personal lives during our country's hard economic times.

C'mon Movie Buff. Just shut up and eat your peas. You'll feel better.

:lol:
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: SVPete on March 27, 2016, 04:52:27 PM
C'mon Movie Buff. Just shut up and eat your peas. You'll feel better.

:lol:

And turn your winter thermostat down to 66, and your summer thermostat up to 78. No more keeping it at 72 year 'round!

(I know what's coming, but I'll let you say it)
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on March 27, 2016, 05:02:12 PM
And turn your winter thermostat down to 66, and your summer thermostat up to 78. No more keeping it at 72 year 'round!

(I know what's coming, but I'll let you say it)

Slow down to 55 while you enjoy that 22% interest rate too...:)
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: SVPete on March 27, 2016, 05:39:19 PM
Slow down to 55 while you enjoy that 22% interest rate too...:)

That was in Carter's Paradise. My 72-degree set thermostat crack was an allusion to some Obamian stupidity. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/03/obama-getting-heat-turning-oval-office-thermostat.html)
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on March 27, 2016, 06:25:46 PM
 :beathorse:

Suck it, assholes.
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on March 28, 2016, 07:00:24 AM
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Star Member sulphurdunn (6,421 posts)
57. Oliver North wore the uniform of The United States to testify before congress, raised his hand, swore to tell the truth and proceeded to lie through the gap in his teeth. He disgraced and shamed himself. Better men have been dishonorably discharged for less.
I remember watching some of those hearings. What I remember most was Ollie North making the dems look stupid while he testified.
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: 67 Rover on March 28, 2016, 10:53:11 AM
Slow down to 55 while you enjoy that 22% interest rate too...:)
Odd even day gas lines.
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: SVPete on March 28, 2016, 10:59:26 AM
Odd even day gas lines.

Your and PGR's reminiscences will have DU-members flocking over here out of nostalgia for their good old days!
Title: Re: Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra?
Post by: Chris_ on March 28, 2016, 11:01:39 AM
Your and PGR's reminiscences will have DU-members flocking over here out of nostalgia for their good old days!
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What decade is it? :panic: