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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on March 18, 2016, 03:10:14 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511520728
Oh my.
This guy really needs to sit down and read Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People.
WillyT (72,626 posts) Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:53 PM
Thank God I'm Not The Only One...
The Cult of Hillary, the Ultimate Junk Bond
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Why do so many black Americans support Hillary Clinton? Stockholm Syndrome. They are faithful battered wives. They are yoked to Hillary by co-dependency: “I’ve stuck by you and suffered to do so for so long that you owe me, and I have faith that you will reward me later if I help you reach your goal now.â€
In their minds they have no such guarantee from Bernie Sanders (and of course from Hillary such a guarantee is an illusion). It is clear that Bernie Sanders has been successful without being dependent on them up to now. So (again, in their minds) he owes them nothing, and thus cannot be counted on to reward them after the election for their support during it.
What this sad diminished thinking shows is a lack of confident independence, an inability to reason that the best estimator of Bernie Sanders’ future trustworthiness is the consistency of his commitment to their fundamental cause for over half a century.
One has to acknowledge the detestable brilliance of the Wall Street and 1%-ist strategy of political purchase: own Hillary and Obama who in turn have enchained so many proletarian minds to their identity-politics personality cults: Pied Pipers leading their trusting conga lines into the Wall Street abattoir.
If the Democratic Party apparatchiks (the paid minions of the 1%-ist oligarchs) can beat back the hostile-takeover Sanders insurgency of popular and populist democracy, and put Hillary Clinton forward as the party’s champion in the general electoral joust, then President Trump will be inaugurated in January 2017. The Democratic Party apparatchiks are first and foremost fighting to preserve their patronage positions (to hell with the country). A President Trump is no threat to their ambitions, but a nominee Sanders — whether subsequently president or not — would mean that a revolution had occurred in the Democratic Party, and the Obama-Clinton apparatchik gravy-train derailed.
I find it depressing to see so many “regular people†chaining themselves so emotionally and naively to the Hillary personality cult, and feeling so uplifted by this delusion. Perhaps the single biggest weakness of Bernie Sanders campaign is that it relies on there being a sufficient majority of healthy independent minds capable of critical thinking. I sure hope there are.
The Trump and Sanders campaigns are two wings of a general popular revulsion to the corporate-owned apparatchik...
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More: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/29/the-cult-of-hillary-the-ultimate-junk-bond/
redstateblues (3,698 posts) Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:59 PM
2. Offensive. I thought there would be no more race baiting
Sad to see you stooping so low. You must be running out of things to cut and paste. Easy to see why minorities don't vote for Bernie
geek tragedy (54,300 posts) Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:13 AM
93. This OP might as well read "please vote for Hillary
since we don't respect you"
Please proceed.
montana_hazeleyes (1,728 posts) Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:07 AM
9. i don't care who wrote this or who posted it.
I find many things written here as terribly insulting to black people.
bravenak (24,449 posts) Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:10 AM
response to the boss of the Bernie bullies
10. Really? You proud of this?
Apologize and cut it out.
WillyT (72,626 posts) Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:15 AM
boss of the Bernie bullies
52. Hey bravenak... You DO NOT Have The Monopoly On AA/POC Posts...
And...
You have no idea as to my history, my family, and my situation.
Please do not use false accusations for political benefit.
It makes you less than...
Plus... You're Wrong
NuclearDem (14,685 posts)
58. Just a tip, Willy:
If you're in a position having to defend yourself against accusations of insulting black people by calling them psychologically damaged...
...I wouldn't advise doing so by calling a black woman "****ing nuts."
Just a little PROTIP.
Yeah.
And bravenak's such a little itty-bitty tiny demure little thing.
WillyT's got to pick on people his own size.
brush (6,383 posts) Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:14 AM
response to the WillyT primitive
94. Nothing but a keyboard warrior who wouldn't have the nerve to say it face-to-face
And downhill it goes, as juries vote and "hides" mount.....
WillyT must've gotten his lessons in "constructive debate" from Attilla the Hun.
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What did he say that was false and doesn`t apply to the democrat party as a whole?
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What did he say that was false and doesn`t apply to the democrat party as a whole?
That's my thinking. Blacks have backed the democrat Party for decades and have seen their lives get worse, stay the same or marginally better. The rich have gotten richer under the Magic Negro, and it was done on the backs of blacks.
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What did he say that was false and doesn`t apply to the democrat party as a whole?
I was going to say! A minor re-write, to improve accuracy:
WillyT (72,626 posts) Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:53 PM
Thank God I'm Not The Only One...
The Cult of Hillary, the Ultimate Junk Bond
<snip>
Why do so many black Americans support the Democratic Party? Stockholm Syndrome. They are faithful battered wives. They are yoked to the Democratic Party by dependency: “I’ve stuck by you and suffered to do so for so long that you owe me, and I have faith that you will reward me later if I help the Democratic Party reach its goal now.â€
In their minds they have no such guarantee from Bernie Sanders (and of course from the Democratic Party such a guarantee is an illusion). It is clear that Bernie Sanders has been successful without being a Democrat and being dependent on them up, to now. So (again, in their minds) he owes them nothing, and thus cannot be counted on to reward them after the election for their support during it (not that the Democratic Party tosses dependent blacks more than a bone designed to keep them dependent on government free-sh@# and the Democratic Party that votes for it and race-baits some Republicans into going along).
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If the Democratic Party apparatchiks (the paid minions of the 1%-ist oligarchs) can beat back the hostile-takeover Sanders insurgency of popular and populist democracy, and put Hillary Clinton forward as the party’s champion in the general electoral joust, then President Trump will be inaugurated in January 2017.
A not so settle dig at $kinner. :-)
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A not so settle dig at $kinner. :-)
It may seem WillyT's told us a lot about himself, but really he hasn't.
I've always been curious--and I'm coming no closer to a conclusion--is the guy of African derivation, or is he light in the loafers?
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The willyt primitive can't even get the remedy correct based upon what he believes. In order for blacks to overcome their "Stockholm Syndrome", it wouldn't mean they would forgo billary in favor of the bern-out, it would be they would forgo liberalism in favor of conservatism. Embracing liberalism even tighter by choosing the bern-out is a sign on going even deeper into Stockholm Syndrome.
Liberals, in general, have Stockholm Syndrome. That's the issue here, and not the level at which they're willing to be comforted by their captors.
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Response to msanthrope (Reply #159)
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:57 AM
Star Member yardwork (40,662 posts)
171. That is exactly what it looks like to me.
About once a week, the story goes, a poster called WillyT on DU wanders down to his local pub, where he has deep conversations with the locals about how Bernie will save all the white people. Then WillyT wanders home and posts another OP on DU. The purpose of these OPs is known only to himself, but no matter what WillyT himself thinks (I'm using a little deconstructionist theory here, Bernie would be proud, down with the white male dominated literary theory of the mid-century.... Wait. Bernie might not like that after all, but I digress....) it's clear to his readers that WillyT derives no small satisfaction from the thought that his posts might hurt, upset, or depress any black people who might still be reading on DU. This week Willy had some revenge in mind as well - posters who had been silenced by himself and his buddies were now back on DU, allowed to say anything they wanted. Uppity talk. That needed to be shut down.
The post is revealed! As always, ithere are citations from Willy's library of sources.... The crowd, restlessly waiting in the predawn hours of Friday morning, quickly and enthusiastically responds. Rec, rec, rec. Willy's telling it like it is again! Willy will put "those people" in their places. How dare they vote for Hillary when they've been told to vote for Bernie?! And lots of other things are muttered....
tl;dr
Grab the white sheets! We ride at midnight.
:clap:
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And...
(http://drawception.com/pub/panels/2012/5-25/8Xs5m5zSzN-14.png)
... willyt is gone.
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/sonicfanchara/images/3/3b/Well_bye.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131018143443)
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Will T gets the broken clock award. One granite pizza coming up!
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Stupid, flaccid, Willy forgot ----> :rulez:
Stupid, flaccid, WillyT ----->:foff: <----- Der Skimmer
OK, who's mole, is that? :shrug:
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Bernie supporters were living the leftist dream. They were rebels in their minds. The left has always had this perceptionof themselves as the counterculture going against the "man" even when they ARE the man.
Now that dream is going away. It was never about a choice. They brought that crazed old loon into the race to make Hillary look more moderate. He was never going to be a viable candidate because if he were to get the nomination he would get crushed in the election. Cruz or Trump would pick him apart like a turkey carcass at Thanksgiving. The DNC knows this.
If I could ask a DU Bernie supporters (I'd be banned in a minute over there) I would ask them why did Hillary start campaigning as late as she did? When she did start campaigning why was it at a much slower pace than other candidates? It's simple, she knew she was next on the block and she felt no need to go all out.
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Bernie supporters were living the leftist dream. They were rebels in their minds. The left has always had this perceptionof themselves as the counterculture going against the "man" even when they ARE the man.
Now that dream is going away. It was never about a choice. ]They brought that crazed old loon into the race to make Hillary look more moderate. He was never going to be a viable candidate because if he were to get the nomination he would get crushed in the election. Cruz or Trump would pick him apart like a turkey carcass at Thanksgiving. The DNC knows this.
If I could ask a DU Bernie supporters (I'd be banned in a minute over there) I would ask them why did Hillary start campaigning as late as she did? When she did start campaigning why was it at a much slower pace than other candidates? It's simple, she knew she was next on the block and she felt no need to go all out.
Only problem was Abuela Loca went even farther left than Sanders.
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Bernie supporters were living the leftist dream. They were rebels in their minds. The left has always had this perceptionof themselves as the counterculture going against the "man" even when they ARE the man.
Now that dream is going away. It was never about a choice. They brought that crazed old loon into the race to make Hillary look more moderate. He was never going to be a viable candidate because if he were to get the nomination he would get crushed in the election. Cruz or Trump would pick him apart like a turkey carcass at Thanksgiving. The DNC knows this.
If I could ask a DU Bernie supporters (I'd be banned in a minute over there) I would ask them why did Hillary start campaigning as late as she did? When she did start campaigning why was it at a much slower pace than other candidates? It's simple, she knew she was next on the block and she felt no need to go all out.
I don`t disagree at all but also keep in mind that the more she talks the phonier and more unlikable she gets.
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Only problem was Abuela Loca went even farther left than Sanders.
They probably didn't count on Sanders gaining as much support as he has.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511520728
Oh my.
This guy really needs to sit down and read Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People.
Yeah.
And bravenak's such a little itty-bitty tiny demure little thing.
WillyT's got to pick on people his own size.
And downhill it goes, as juries vote and "hides" mount.....
WillyT must've gotten his lessons in "constructive debate" from Attilla the Hun.
Ok, will DU have a caucus or a primary to replace poor old WillyT, who got rather brazen figuring he was safe in his rants.
The big hammer fell in the purge, on the leader of the opposition.
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What did he say that was false and doesn`t apply to the democrat party as a whole?
Beats me. :shrug: He's 100% correct.
...buuuuut, we all know how they react to reality.
(http://www.newtscards.com/images/detailed/0/race_card_playing_cards_large1200968098479551a23de7a12137844854858e1a57a36f.jpg)
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The willyt primitive can't even get the remedy correct based upon what he believes. In order for blacks to overcome their "Stockholm Syndrome", it wouldn't mean they would forgo billary in favor of the bern-out, it would be they would forgo liberalism in favor of conservatism. Embracing liberalism even tighter by choosing the bern-out is a sign on going even deeper into Stockholm Syndrome.
:hi5:
They are simply incapable of it.