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Title: D.C. police release video of assault on decorated Marine vet
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 19, 2016, 10:40:56 PM
D.C. police release video of assault on decorated Marine vet
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2016/02/18/dc-police-release-video-assault-decorated-marine-vet/80556684/

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Police have released video showing several suspects who may be involved in assaulting and robbing a decorated Marine veteran at a Washington, D.C., McDonald's last week.

Former Sgt. Christopher Marquez, who earned a Bronze Star with combat "V" in Iraq and helped carry then-1st Sgt. Bradley Kasal out of Fallujah’s “Hell House,” was mugged by several people Feb. 12 in Washington's Chinatown neighborhood.

I am not a fan of hate crime laws, but this one screams it!  :mad: :argh:
Title: Re: D.C. police release video of assault on decorated Marine vet
Post by: SVPete on February 20, 2016, 08:29:35 AM
In the MSM headlines I saw yesterday concerning the release of this video, the SCUMBAG MSM called it an ALLEGED assault! As if it were possible they were offering him extra fries?!!!

Those MSM writers and editors need a good dose of this ALLEGED!!!
Title: Re: D.C. police release video of assault on decorated Marine vet
Post by: ADsOutburst on February 24, 2016, 04:47:23 PM
In the MSM headlines I saw yesterday concerning the release of this video, the SCUMBAG MSM called it an ALLEGED assault! As if it were possible they were offering him extra fries?!!!

Those MSM writers and editors need a good dose of this ALLEGED!!!
One of my pet peeves is the phrase "alleged suspect", as in "here we see the alleged suspect appearing in court", as if there were some uncertainty as to whether or not a person arrested and appearing in court were indeed suspected o a crime.
Title: Re: D.C. police release video of assault on decorated Marine vet
Post by: DLR Pyro on February 24, 2016, 05:23:17 PM
obama's sons being obama's sons.  Nothing new.
Title: Re: D.C. police release video of assault on decorated Marine vet
Post by: SVPete on February 24, 2016, 07:12:48 PM
One of my pet peeves is the phrase "alleged suspect", as in "here we see the alleged suspect appearing in court", as if there were some uncertainty as to whether or not a person arrested and appearing in court were indeed suspected o a crime.

IIRC, back in the 60s there were a bunch of convictions overturned by appeals courts because pretrial news reporting called un-convicted suspects "murderers" or "thieves" or (whatever). Thus "alleged" came into use, and I have no  problem with calling an untried suspect "alleged" or "accused".

The two things I've noticed the MSM doing which I think is sloppy or dishonest are:

* Calling a convicted (whatever) "alleged" or "accused"; if the MSM feel an adjective is needed, the accurate adjective is "convicted";

* Using "alleged" in describing a crime that clearly has happened.

Hello! The video of this crime has been released! Don't use an adjective that suggests the victim is lying! Call it what it was!
Title: Re: D.C. police release video of assault on decorated Marine vet
Post by: thundley4 on February 24, 2016, 07:38:34 PM
* Using "alleged" in describing a crime that clearly has happened.

Hello! The video of this crime has been released! Don't use an adjective that suggests the victim is lying! Call it what it was!

They did the same thing when the gay, black Obama supporter killed the two TV people and uploaded his own video. He was still called "alleged".
Title: Re: D.C. police release video of assault on decorated Marine vet
Post by: Eupher on February 24, 2016, 07:44:01 PM
I'm no attorney, but I'd say the term "alleged" is used primarily by journalists to avoid lawsuits that accuse the publication of tainting a potential pool of jurors.

It's bullshit, but that's the nature of PC these days. Keeps the lawyers at bay.
Title: Re: D.C. police release video of assault on decorated Marine vet
Post by: thundley4 on February 24, 2016, 08:02:05 PM
I'm no attorney, but I'd say the term "alleged" is used primarily by journalists to avoid lawsuits that accuse the publication of tainting a potential pool of jurors.

It's bullshit, but that's the nature of PC these days. Keeps the lawyers at bay.

But they do it even when the perp was killed during their crime.
Title: Re: D.C. police release video of assault on decorated Marine vet
Post by: Eupher on February 25, 2016, 11:37:17 AM
But they do it even when the perp was killed during their crime.

Yeah, okay, but the entire "proved in a court of law" thing pretty much drives the language. Unless due process has been done and concludes that the perp is guilty, it's my take that those writing about the perp are going to use the term "alleged" to stave off any potential defamation lawsuits.

We live in an incredibly litigious society. It's amazing we can still take a piss in a pisser without offending somebody.