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Title: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: CC27 on February 19, 2016, 01:12:07 PM
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Star Member Playinghardball (11,157 posts)

Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism". We fight 4 the freedom of working people




(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CblRPwiUcAAeK62.png)

Great source you got that picture from.  :whatever:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280120999
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: FlaGator on February 19, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
Democratic Socialism!
Doing it's best to make the greatest country on Earth mediocre for 70 years!
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 19, 2016, 01:22:40 PM
Didn't East Germany call itself the 'Democratic Socialist Republic of Germany?'

Or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: CollectivismMustDie on February 19, 2016, 01:23:51 PM
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Star Member Playinghardball (11,157 posts)

Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism". We fight 4 the freedom of working people

At the expense of every other kind of liberty which belongs to everyone.

If you want to sell yourself down the river that way, that is fine by me, move to europe.

My liberty, on the other hand, isn't for sale.

:bigbird:


CMD
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: thundley4 on February 19, 2016, 01:24:02 PM
So basically, the left wants to turn the entire country into a large commune like the ones that were tried on a smaller scale in the 60-70s. The ones that always failed because eventually the moochers and leeches outnumber the producers.

Congratulations DUmmies, you've arrived at that endpoint while we still have some capitalism left.
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: ExGeeEye on February 19, 2016, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 19, 2016, 01:22:40 PM
Didn't East Germany call itself the 'Democratic Socialist Republic of Germany?'

Or am I wrong?

Yes.

German Democratic Republic.

Two lies in three words, of course :)
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: Carl on February 19, 2016, 01:43:15 PM
If they were honest then they would have to admit that human nature would turn that arrow upwards to end at communism.
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on February 19, 2016, 01:51:05 PM
It doesn't have to be in order to be stupid in its own right.
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: IndiCon15 on February 19, 2016, 02:09:58 PM
How is the left not already at Bureaucratic Collectivism?  "Authoritarian faction?"  "A plan imposed by a central bureaucratic authority." 
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on February 19, 2016, 02:10:40 PM
That completely idiotic DUmmy "playing hardball" needs to change its name to "playing whiffleball".  The crap it posts just panders to the Democrat narrative of the day/week.
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: dutch508 on February 19, 2016, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 19, 2016, 01:22:40 PM
Didn't East Germany call itself the 'Democratic Socialist Republic of Germany?'

Or am I wrong?

To be fair, the Soviet Union was crushing the **** out of East Germany in retaliation to the invasion and destruction of huge parts of the USSR in WWII. It was never supposed to be a 'freely run' country of East Germany. Really, and I am biased as most of my mother's family was liquidated by the Nazis in Kiev between being destroyed by the Soviets before and after WWII, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the darkness that fell over Eastern Germany 1945 to 1990.

 :tongue:
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 19, 2016, 03:05:09 PM
It sounds just as bad as I thought it was.  Maybe worse.  It sounds like chaos, mob rule, etc.
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: Big Dog on February 19, 2016, 03:58:13 PM
Quote from: Duke Nukum on February 19, 2016, 03:05:09 PM
It sounds just as bad as I thought it was.  Maybe worse.  It sounds like chaos, mob rule, etc.

The first sentence, "The workers take the means of production from the capitalist class, and reorganize their economic life on radically democratic lines", is a delusion written in blood.
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: CollectivismMustDie on February 19, 2016, 09:50:21 PM
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on February 19, 2016, 02:10:40 PM
That completely idiotic DUmmy "playing hardball" needs to change its name to "playing whiffleball".  The crap it posts just panders to the Democrat narrative of the day/week.

Playhardwithballs. In the interest of accuracy, you see.


 :whistling:


CMD
Title: Re: Democratic socialism is not capitalism/fascism/"Communism".
Post by: SVPete on February 20, 2016, 09:07:33 AM
Quote from: Big Dog on February 19, 2016, 03:58:13 PM
The first sentence, "The workers take the means of production from the capitalist class, and reorganize their economic life on radically democratic lines", is a delusion written in blood.

H-5 earned and issued!

This graphic is just a smokescreen to try to dissociate their version of Marxism from what Lenin, Stalin, and the other Soviets did. Reality is that Lenin, Stalin, et al, took "the means of production from the capitalist class" in the name of "the workers", and got bogged down in the process of "reorganiz(ing) their economic life". If these fools ever got power, they too would bog down at that stage, and "on radically democratic lines" would be as much pie in the sky for them as it was for the people of the Soviet Union (or China, or Cuba, or NoKo, or Vietnam ...).

And these fools would prove themselves every bit as oppressively self-indulgent as were Communist leaders and apparatchiki in their various countries.