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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on February 17, 2016, 07:44:03 AM
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noiretextatique (25,872 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027619115
About the stalking of Black DUer's, racism, etc
There has been much ado about a post that was alerted on and deleted. Frankly, I am not at all outraged. I think it is fairly routine to remove racist posts: the motives of the poster are irrelevant. We often get racist trolls here who post vile things here all the time. And, if anyone claims racism does not exist here, that's someone who is in denial about America. However, there has been a consistent and concerted effort by some Black DUers, who happen to be Clinton supporters, to blame Sanders supporters for an organized attack against them.
As I mentioned in another thread, if this conspriracy is real, it would mean everytime a random jury is selected, that random jury would have to be in cahoots with the alerter. So, we all must be in on the conspiracy...it is the only logical conclusion. The other thing if I find odd about this on-going acccusation is that it is very convienent excuse to use to deflect attention from some truly dishonest claims.
The racist comments were made in a thread with an OP that claimed that Sanders thinks all black people are poor. That is what was trying to be passed off as meaningful discourse, by several people. Eventually, the OP self-deleted the post, but not before the racist troll spewed his bile. So...the focused shifted from pushing a simple-minded, bullshit meme to outrage about something that is not allowed...for anyone, presented as a personal, and racial issue. It is neither: it is a tactic, plain and simple. Stop falling for it.
If not for the happenstance of a random racist troll, the focus would have remained on the truly ridiculous claims made by Clinton supporters in that thread, not outrage about not being able to post a racist troll's idiotic comments.
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NanceGreggs (19,031 posts)
1. "As I mentioned in another thread, if this conspriracy is real it would mean everytime a random jury is selected, that random jury would have to be in cahoots with the alerter."
No, dear, it's not about a conspiracy. It's about the undisputed FACT that 85% of DUers are BS supporters, which means 85% of the jury pool are BS supporters, which in turn means that the odds are that if a BS supporter is the alerter, he/she has an 85% chance of being sided with. It also means that if the "alerted-on" post is anti-Bernie, there's an 85% chance that post will be voted to be "hidden" by 85% of the jurors who don't want to see anything critical of Bernie being posted here.
bravenak (22,123 posts)
28. Oh lord. Are you done yet?
noiretextatique (25,872 posts)
32. not until you are
are you ever done?
NanceGreggs (19,031 posts)
17. I just told you ...
... that it has nothing to do with any "conspiracy".
noiretextatique (25,872 posts)
44. then wtf is it?
either there is an effort to "silence" these black clinton supporters...or there isn't. if there is an effort, what do you call it?
Journeyman (11,617 posts)
14. How is the 85% calculated? . . .
There does appear to be more Sanders supporters than Clinton's on the boards, but is it really an 85-15 split?
NanceGreggs (19,031 posts)
22. According to Skinner, yes.
And I figure he's in a position to know.
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Paka (1,842 posts)
81. That is so disrespectful of my integrity...
whether I am a Bernie supporter or not, I take jury duty very seriously. I believe all intelligent discussion should be allowed, whether we agree or not. If the alert is simply a targeted one or someone too thin-skinned to believe possible, I see no reason to hide. Egregious violations of TOS are the exception and I believe I have only hidden two times.
I'm a Bernie supporter, but you can throw out anything critical of him except outright lies and I can accept it. Untruths are not acceptable under any circumstances.
The very reason I am supporting Bernie is that he has a moral compass that is not for sale. I too value my moral compass that is not swayed by petty differences.
Oh no! Better call the emotional support police and report a hurt feelings claim!
Dawgs (13,724 posts)
85. What's up with using BS instead Sanders?
Is it really that much harder to type a few more characters, or is it something else?
is it... a Dawg Whistle?
Cha (172,222 posts)
65. 1StrongBlackMan got a Hide for quoting a racist who subsequently turned into a "nameremoved"
How is that a fair jury system?
Star Member leftofcool (14,450 posts)
68. You are right about one thing. Plenty of racists around here.
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DU folk need to wrap their heads around something. To the degree to which there are moles posting on DU and participating in juries, their interest is supporting internecine conflict and letting DU ugliness be seen plainly. Thus, non-Progs would not be Alerting extreme or outrageous posts, and if they were on a jury, they would be inclined to vote "Leave Alone".
IOW, the alert-stalking, to the extent there is any on DU, is entirely by DU-Progs, not outsiders of any stripe. IOW, DU-folk:
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Paka (1,842 posts)
81. That is so disrespectful of my integrity...
whether I am a Bernie supporter or not, I take jury duty very seriously.
Wow. 'Jury duty' on Skins' Island is 'very serious'. Somebody needs to get out of Mom's basement and get a ****ing life.