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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Chris_ on February 13, 2016, 04:24:49 PM
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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia dead at 79
Associate Justice of the Supreme Court Antonin Scalia was found dead Saturday on a luxury resort in West Texas, federal officials said.
Scalia, 79, was a guest at the Cibolo Creek Ranch, a resort in the Big Bend region south of Marfa. MySanAntonio.com said he died of apparent natural causes.
New York Post (http://nypost.com/2016/02/13/supreme-court-justice-antonin-scalia-dead-at-79/)
Terrible news. :(
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RIP
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obumbles will nominate another extreme liberal to the bench.
The USA is now officially screwed.
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Ah hell....Obama is probably dancing around the Oval Office as we speak. This is bad, really bad.
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I just hope the GOP in the Senate find a spine and do what Reid did for years...declare no confirmation hearings will be heard.
Let the voters decide where they want the court to go and not a lame duck.
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I just hope the GOP in the Senate find a spine and do what Reid did for years...declare no confirmation hearings will be heard.
Let the voters decide where they want the court to go and not a lame duck.
Unfortunately you may be asking for more than can be delivered. The establishment will give him whoever he wants.
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Both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio have called to delay on the nomination until the next President is sworn in.
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Pray for his family and pray more than ever for this country.
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Both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio have called to delay on the nomination until the next President is sworn in.
Democrats are already pushing for a quick vote.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/13/fight-over-antonin-scalia-replacement-heats-democr/#.Vr-6PV-2RY8.twitter
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Rest in peace Justice Scalia!
Scalia's death is one of those plumb line moments for me when I can tell what politics has done to my soul. Concern for his loved ones was the third thing that came to mind. The first was how the balance of power may have shifted in the Supreme Court and what effect that was going to have on me. The second thing I thought of was how I was going to have to endure at least a week of liberal grave pissing and the possibly a year of liberal bitching and moaning if the Senate blocks a replacement.
Sometime I forget it's not about me and I'm pretty sure that is not a good thing.
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obumbles will nominate another extreme liberal to the bench.
The USA is now officially screwed.
Two hundred forty years. It's been (mostly) a good run.
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Rest in peace Justice Scalia!
Scalia's death is one of those plumb line moments for me when I can tell what politics has done to my soul. Concern for his loved ones was the third thing that came to mind. The first was how the balance of power may have shifted in the Supreme Court and what effect that was going to have on me. The second thing I thought of was how I was going to have to endure at least a week of liberal grave pissing and the possibly a year of liberal bitching and moaning if the Senate blocks a replacement.
Sometime I forget it's not about me and I'm pretty sure that is not a good thing.
I'd say you're not alone in your assessments, and in the order they occurred to you/me.
There could well be yet another verb to be invented:
Barry must be Borked. At all costs, he must be Borked.
Stall, delay, refuse to confirm, filibuster. The Senate must hold firm -- and yet, as we've seen time and time and time again, the Republican-controlled Senate will capitulate before the war even starts.
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I'd say you're not alone in your assessments, and in the order they occurred to you/me.
There could well be yet another verb to be invented:
Barry must be Borked. At all costs, he must be Borked.
Stall, delay, refuse to confirm, filibuster. The Senate must hold firm -- and yet, as we've seen time and time and time again, the Republican-controlled Senate will capitulate before the war even starts.
I agree. Bork whoever is nominated by Obama
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Damn.
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McConnell: Don't replace Scalia until after election (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/269389-mcconnell-dont-replace-scalia-until-after-election)
McConnell will cave faster than the Vichy French.
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Sorry, but I cry foul play! There are 2 executive orders before SCOTUS to rule on; 2nd amendment and amnesty.
I predict a liberal justice will be placed. Rulings will be in favor of amnesty = DEM votes and DEM presidency. Ruling in favor of Hussein's e.o. on 2nd amendment.
Yes we are truly and royally screwed!
Pray for a miracle! Seriously. PRAY FOR A MIRACLE!!
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Sorry, but I cry foul play! There are 2 executive orders before SCOTUS to rule on; 2nd amendment and amnesty.
I predict a liberal justice will be placed. Rulings will be in favor of amnesty = DEM votes and DEM presidency. Ruling in favor of Hussein's e.o. on 2nd amendment.
Yes we are truly and royally screwed!
Pray for a miracle! Seriously. PRAY FOR A MIRACLE!!
This one could be more important than those.
Teachers Unions at Risk of Losing “Agency Feesâ€
Now a case awaits hearing by the U.S. Supreme Court that could dramatically change this picture. The Far Left periodical In These Times calls Friedrichs v. California Teachers Association the case “that could decimate American public sector unionism.†Perhaps that’s simply an ideological overstatement. Nonetheless, the case, if decided for the plaintiffs, could end the practice of “agency†fees—money paid to the union by nonmembers in exchange for collective bargaining services. Unions call them “fair-share†fees and assert that their elimination would create a class of free riders, workers who would pay nothing while still enjoying the higher salaries and other benefits negotiated by unions.
http://educationnext.org/teachers-unions-risk-losing-agency-fees-friedrichs-california/
That could mean the death of unions.
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I just hope the GOP in the Senate find a spine and do what Reid did for years...declare no confirmation hearings will be heard.
Let the voters decide where they want the court to go and not a lame duck.
I just hope it's not Trump. He might appoint another "conservative" like David Souter. :thatsright:
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I just hope it's not Trump. He might appoint another "conservative" like David Souter. :thatsright:
That's my concern... that the "wrong" conservative ends up putting a lefty, and then we are just as screwed as if we'd elected Hillary or Bernie.
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It was the final nail in the coffin for this country.
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A Congressional session runs for one year, January 3rd to sometime in December.
There are two sessions for each “Congress†(odd year to odd year). Adjournment means that Congress is out of session, it is closed to business.
This is in contrast to a recess, which we might think of as “time off†or “pause.â€
After Congress is adjourned, there are formal processes involved in reconvening.
The Constitution forbids either the Senate or the House to adjourn for more than three days without the permission of the other chamber.
A “recess appointment†can not be made during adjournment. There is no provision for appointment during adjournment.
In 2007, Schumer Called For Blocking All Bush Supreme Court Nominations
During a Sunday morning appearance on ABC’s “This Week,†Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer decried the intent of many Senate Republicans to prevent President Barack Obama from appointing the successor to deceased Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.
But less than a decade ago, Schumer advocated doing the same exact thing if any additional Supreme Court vacancies opened under former President George W. Bush.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/14/flashback-in-2007-schumer-called-for-blocking-all-bush-supreme-court-nominations/
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Now Senate Democrats want Barrack Obama to pick a Liberal Justice to remake the USSC with the death of of Justice Scailia.
Yet these hypocrites seem to forget they used the filibuster, and even racism to delay and finally deny George w. Bush's nominee Miguel Estrada a seat on the federal bench.
Democrats and Leftist Groups labeled Mr. Estrada as "Politically Dangerous," because if confirmed they felt that he might ascend to the USSC as the first Hispanic on the high court.
For 28 months Democrats and Leftist Groups used every racist tactic in the book to deny and delay an up or down vote.
So ruthless were these tactics that Estrada's Wife miscarried their child and later killed herself, which promoted Estrada to withdraw his nomination to the federal bench.
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USAToday has a list of possible nominees:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/13/scalia-replacement-obama-nominees/80357134/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/13/scalia-replacement-obama-nominees/80357134/)
Don't like any of them.
Now just because obumbles nominates someone does not necessarily mean that the person is ratified by the senate. I'm guessing his first choice will be a flaming liberal that gets promptly voted down. Then the next will be a left of center moderate.
Typically the court does not like to give a single president more than two justices to seat on the bench.
This will probably drag on until late summer. The closer to the election we get, the more I get worried about a recess appointment by the dictater in chief. Then there is the possibility of a dem controlled senate next year.
Nothing good is going to come of this unless next year one of the liberals on the bench retires and (assume) a GOP president gets to a appoint with a GOP senate to ratify.
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USAToday has a list of possible nominees:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/13/scalia-replacement-obama-nominees/80357134/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/13/scalia-replacement-obama-nominees/80357134/)
Don't like any of them.
Now just because obumbles nominates someone does not necessarily mean that the person is ratified by the senate. I'm guessing his first choice will be a flaming liberal that gets promptly voted down. Then the next will be a left of center moderate.
Typically the court does not like to give a single president more than two justices to seat on the bench.
This will probably drag on until late summer. The closer to the election we get, the more I get worried about a recess appointment by the dictater in chief. Then there is the possibility of a dem controlled senate next year.
Nothing good is going to come of this unless next year one of the liberals on the bench retires and (assume) a GOP president gets to a appoint with a GOP senate to ratify.
Read a bit about this Merrick Garland gentleman today. Of that list, he is by far the most reasonable. Not that I'd approve him. Rather have this wait & not become a political football for the campaign this year.
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I just posted in the Shoutbox that the most likely replacement will be AG Loretta Lynch.
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Rest in peace Justice Scalia!
Scalia's death is one of those plumb line moments for me when I can tell what politics has done to my soul. Concern for his loved ones was the third thing that came to mind. The first was how the balance of power may have shifted in the Supreme Court and what effect that was going to have on me. The second thing I thought of was how I was going to have to endure at least a week of liberal grave pissing and the possibly a year of liberal bitching and moaning if the Senate blocks a replacement.
Sometime I forget it's not about me and I'm pretty sure that is not a good thing.
I agree with some of your sentiments, but really disagree with others. I too feel empathy towards the surviving family, however...
It is not about the collective. It is about every individual that makes up the collective. Those two things, in spite of looking very similar, are completely different. It IS about you. And it IS about ME. And our kids, and our kids kids. It is about nothing short of whether people like you and I and the future generations, will have a relationship WITH government as the left wants, or a relationship TO government, as individuals.
There is no reason to feel bad about your rational self interests coming to the surface first, in this time and place that we live, where our individual self interests have been under attack for decades by collectivists. The order in which your concerns come to the surface doesn't define you, as lefties would assert. It is a product of the corrupt environment we live in, survival instinct, and pragmatic prioritization. Put simply, we are at war. While it is a quiet war, make no mistake, it IS a war. You are prioritizing accordingly, even if it doesn't sit right with you. War is hell.
So don't be too hard on yourself, you've done nothing to deserve it.
CMD
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Democrats are already pushing for a quick vote.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/13/fight-over-antonin-scalia-replacement-heats-democr/#.Vr-6PV-2RY8.twitter
Which is interesting since Schmucky Schumer wanted an embargo on any new SC appointees during the last 19 months of the Bush Administration.
Cruz has vowed to filibuster any nominee that makes it out of committee. Lets hope Grassley doesn't let a nomination out for a vote on the floor.
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This may all ready have been posted somewhere and I try to stay far away from conspiracy theories but I would not be surprised if there isn`t a push going on right now in some circles for Justices Ginsburg and Breyer or Souter to retire so as to leave the court decimated and more likely to have nominations considered.
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This may all ready have been posted somewhere and I try to stay far away from conspiracy theories but I would not be surprised if there isn`t a push going on right now in some circles for Justices Ginsburg and Breyer or Souter to retire so as to leave the court decimated and more likely to have nominations considered.
There has been talk about Ginsberg retiring come the end of the current SCOTUS calendar in June.
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There has been talk about Ginsberg retiring come the end of the current SCOTUS calendar in June.
That would actually take some of the pressure off the senate to confirm a nominee.
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That would actually take some of the pressure off the senate to confirm a nominee.
It would deflect the media for about one nanosecond. Oh, no, the media have a laser probe on the Scalia thing. They're like pit bulls -- won't let go of it.
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It would deflect the media for about one nanosecond. Oh, no, the media have a laser probe on the Scalia thing. They're like pit bulls -- won't let go of it.
I meant that the senate wouldn't have to worry about 4-4 ties if there are only 7 justices. Screw the MSM.
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I meant that the senate wouldn't have to worry about 4-4 ties if there are only 7 justices. Screw the MSM.
Simple solution: Congress should pass an eight justices amendment.
No need for a ninth.
The Constitution gives Congress the power to decide how many seats there are on the Supreme Court. In 1789, there were only six.
Congress could reduce the number of Supreme Court justices from the current nine to eight.
There has been as many as ten.
The idea of having an even number of justices on the Supreme Court is not a new one. In fact, the Judiciary Act of 1789, which first set up the federal judicial system, established a six-person Supreme Court. And in its early years, the Republic clung to the even-number status quo.
Would those 4-4 ties cripple the judicial system?
They might have the opposite effect.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2006/2/5/and-then-there-were-eight-the/
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Simple solution: Congress should pass an eight justices amendment.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2006/2/5/and-then-there-were-eight-the/
The most recent thing I could find about an 8 member USSC being tied would result in the lower court ruling standing, not being sent back for them to review.
As long as there exists an extremely ****ed up lower court like the 9th Circus court, there needs to be a way to overturn their rulings.
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The most recent thing I could find about an 8 member USSC being tied would result in the lower court ruling standing, not being sent back for them to review.
As long as there exists an extremely ****ed up lower court like the 9th Circus court, there needs to be a way to overturn their rulings.
But at the same time there are some rulings on immigration and the EPA that went against Obama that would stay in place as well.
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