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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Wretched Excess on July 29, 2008, 01:08:00 PM
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Alaska Senator Is Indicted on Corruption Charges
WASHINGTON — Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska, the longest-serving Republican senator in United States history and a figure of great influence in Washington as well as in his home state, has been indicted on federal corruption charges.
Mr. Stevens, 84, was indicted on seven counts of falsely reporting income. The charges are related to renovations on his home and to gifts he has received. They arise from an investigation that has been under way for more than a year, in connection with the senator’s relationship with a businessman who oversaw the home-remodeling project.
The indictment will surely reverberate through the November elections. Mr. Stevens, who has been in the Senate for 40 years, is up for re-election this year. Mark Begich, a popular Democratic mayor of Anchorage, hopes to supplant him.
The Justice Department scheduled a news conference for Tuesday afternoon to announce the indictment.
Republicans on Capitol Hill were already jittery over a lobbying and influence-peddling scandal related to the lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who is now in prison. Mr. Stevens’s troubles are not linked to that affair. Instead, they stem from his ties to an oil executive whose company won millions of dollars in federal contracts with the help of Mr. Stevens, whose home in Alaska was almost doubled in size in the renovation project.
More (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/washington/30stevens.html?hp)
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What a freaking tool!!! :thatsright:
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What a freaking tool!!! :thatsright:
this is going to be a lot of fun to have to deal with in the next few months . . . I can already hear nancy pelosi
dusting of that retarded "culture of corruption" mantra. :whatever:
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I wonder if he had money in his freezer. Culture of corruption? My regards William Jefferson and Harry Reid.
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I wonder if he had money in his freezer. Culture of corruption? My regards William Jefferson and Harry Reid.
yeah, but "your guys are as corrupt as my guys" isn't much of a defense, though. perhaps this will just drive
the approval ratings of the democrat controlled congress into the lower single digits.
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I guess that bridge to nowhere is gone for good now....
I won't miss that jerk.
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Sure, the right has it's asshats a well. But when found out, we take them to task. We don't sit there and make excuses for them, we hit them with the book and push them into obscurity.
The day the right has murderers, racists, and child molesters running this government, will be the day I listen to any Democrat talk shit about how corrupt we are.
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Sure, the right has it's asshats a well. But when found out, we take them to task. We don't sit there and make excuses for them, we hit them with the book and push them into obscurity.
The day the right has murderers, racists, and child molesters running this government, will be the day I listen to any Democrat talk shit about how corrupt we are.
Why DJ, have you crossed? :stirpot:
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BTW, all one has to do is compare Stevens to William Jefferson, D-La.
One's still serving, the other is about to be forced to resign.
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Sure, the right has it's asshats a well. But when found out, we take them to task. We don't sit there and make excuses for them, we hit them with the book and push them into obscurity.
The day the right has murderers, racists, and child molesters running this government, will be the day I listen to any Democrat talk shit about how corrupt we are.
Why DJ, have you crossed? :stirpot:
I've always associated myself to the right. I just have liberal tendencies. :tongue:
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Sure, the right has it's asshats a well. But when found out, we take them to task. We don't sit there and make excuses for them, we hit them with the book and push them into obscurity.
The day the right has murderers, racists, and child molesters running this government, will be the day I listen to any Democrat talk shit about how corrupt we are.
Why DJ, have you crossed? :stirpot:
I've always associated myself to the right. I just have liberal tendencies. :tongue:
There is a cure for that.
:cheersmate:
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Sure, the right has it's asshats a well. But when found out, we take them to task. We don't sit there and make excuses for them, we hit them with the book and push them into obscurity.
The day the right has murderers, racists, and child molesters running this government, will be the day I listen to any Democrat talk shit about how corrupt we are.
Why DJ, have you crossed? :stirpot:
I laughed when I read that comment by Dj...................amazing how far along grasshopper has come :lmao:
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What a freaking tool!!! :thatsright:
this is going to be a lot of fun to have to deal with in the next few months . . . I can already hear nancy pelosi
dusting of that retarded "culture of corruption" mantra. :whatever:
It worked. When will the RNC and Conservatives realize the Left has grabbed onto Hitler's favorite axiom: "a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth"???
If we lose big this election cycle, it is because we ceded the high ground to unaddressed democrat lies.
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What a freaking tool!!! :thatsright:
this is going to be a lot of fun to have to deal with in the next few months . . . I can already hear nancy pelosi
dusting of that retarded "culture of corruption" mantra. :whatever:
It worked. When will the RNC and Conservatives realize the Left has grabbed onto Hitler's favorite axiom: "a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth"???
If we lose big this election cycle, it is because we ceded the high ground to unaddressed democrat lies.
Well, you know, the Republican Party already ceded a political philosophy that works for Liberalism Lite which, they think, allows them to be at least a little bit corrupt, maybe they think if they look past Democrat corruption they will be safer to take the kick-backs and what-not?
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What a freaking tool!!! :thatsright:
this is going to be a lot of fun to have to deal with in the next few months . . . I can already hear nancy pelosi
dusting of that retarded "culture of corruption" mantra. :whatever:
It worked. When will the RNC and Conservatives realize the Left has grabbed onto Hitler's favorite axiom: "a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth"???
If we lose big this election cycle, it is because we ceded the high ground to unaddressed democrat lies.
Well, you know, the Republican Party already ceded a political philosophy that works for Liberalism Lite which, they think, allows them to be at least a little bit corrupt, maybe they think if they look past Democrat corruption they will be safer to take the kick-backs and what-not?
I am not sure what that means. I do know the Republicans and some Conservatives have been "taking the high ground" and that worked great in 2006, didn't it?
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and that worked great in 2006, didn't it?
It sure did for the democrats.
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What a freaking tool!!! :thatsright:
this is going to be a lot of fun to have to deal with in the next few months . . . I can already hear nancy pelosi
dusting of that retarded "culture of corruption" mantra. :whatever:
It worked. When will the RNC and Conservatives realize the Left has grabbed onto Hitler's favorite axiom: "a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth"???
If we lose big this election cycle, it is because we ceded the high ground to unaddressed democrat lies.
Well, you know, the Republican Party already ceded a political philosophy that works for Liberalism Lite which, they think, allows them to be at least a little bit corrupt, maybe they think if they look past Democrat corruption they will be safer to take the kick-backs and what-not?
I am not sure what that means. I do know the Republicans and some Conservatives have been "taking the high ground" and that worked great in 2006, didn't it?
I'm saying that the Republicans threw out conservatism so they could be corrupt like the dems and they think if they overlook the dems corruption, they can get away with their own corruption. But they never get it. They gave us McCainez because they thought the media would fawn over him as happened in 2000. There's a reason the Republican Party is oft times known as The Stupid Party. I don't see anybody taking the high ground.
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and that worked great in 2006, didn't it?
It sure did for the democrats.
My point exactly.
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BTW, all one has to do is compare Stevens to William Jefferson, D-La.
One's still serving, the other is about to be forced to resign.
as usual, great point Rebel.
We (the Right) don't circle the wagons around GOPers that cross the line.
The Left, on the other hand, consider this kind of offense as a badge of honor or something. And then they circle the wagons and blame the VRWC.
Stevens made such poor choices and ruined his record. I chalk it up to supreme hubris.
What part of not taking special favors from lobbyists do these guys not understand?
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I hope this clown gets slapped into a Federal Pound You In The Ass prison for a couple of years as a warning to the rest of the insane house and senate clowne posse.
This shit HAS to stop.
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BTW, all one has to do is compare Stevens to William Jefferson, D-La.
One's still serving, the other is about to be forced to resign.
as usual, great point Rebel.
The Left, on the other hand, consider this kind of offense as a badge of honor or something....
A good example is Billy blow job Klinton considered his impeachment as a badge of honor. Too bad the senate didn't have the balls to throw him out of office.
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I wonder if he had money in his freezer. Culture of corruption? My regards William Jefferson and Harry Reid.
yeah, but "your guys are as corrupt as my guys" isn't much of a defense, though. perhaps this will just drive
the approval ratings of the democrat controlled congress into the lower single digits.
I never meant it to be a defense. It should be a point of shame. The difference is how these corrupt bastards are treated.
Taking the "high road" has gotten the republicans nowhere. Stevens should hang on to his seat until formally convicted. It works for democrats. Every time.
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I wonder if he had money in his freezer. Culture of corruption? My regards William Jefferson and Harry Reid.
yeah, but "your guys are as corrupt as my guys" isn't much of a defense, though. perhaps this will just drive
the approval ratings of the democrat controlled congress into the lower single digits.
I never meant it to be a defense. It should be a point of shame. The difference is how these corrupt bastards are treated.
Taking the "high road" has gotten the republicans nowhere. Stevens should hang on to his seat until formally convicted. It works for democrats. Every time.
And if he tries that, he'll be crucified in the MSM and by the Democrats, but I repeat myself.
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I wonder if he had money in his freezer. Culture of corruption? My regards William Jefferson and Harry Reid.
yeah, but "your guys are as corrupt as my guys" isn't much of a defense, though. perhaps this will just drive
the approval ratings of the democrat controlled congress into the lower single digits.
I never meant it to be a defense. It should be a point of shame. The difference is how these corrupt bastards are treated.
Taking the "high road" has gotten the republicans nowhere. Stevens should hang on to his seat until formally convicted. It works for democrats. Every time.
And if he tries that, he'll be crucified in the MSM and by the Democrats, but I repeat myself.
Yes, I am aware of that reality. The fact that Stevens has claim to be innocent should be reinforced by not acting guilty - regardless of the press. The corrupt democrats never make a move towards resigning or withdrawing until all options have been exhausted. The Republicans should do the same. Tom DeLay should still be holding his head high, for example. He is gone, yet guilty of nothing.
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I hope this clown gets slapped into a Federal Pound You In The Ass prison for a couple of years as a warning to the rest of the insane house and senate clowne posse.
This shit HAS to stop.
Hi5
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I do know the Republicans and some Conservatives have been "taking the high ground" and that worked great in 2006, didn't it?
Beats the hell out of the liberal practice of party over country.
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What a freaking tool!!! :thatsright:
this is going to be a lot of fun to have to deal with in the next few months . . . I can already hear nancy pelosi
dusting of that retarded "culture of corruption" mantra. :whatever:
It worked. When will the RNC and Conservatives realize the Left has grabbed onto Hitler's favorite axiom: "a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth"???
If we lose big this election cycle, it is because we ceded the high ground to unaddressed democrat lies.
and today, McCain is out there saying what a great woman Nancy Pelosi is.. and what a fair minded job she is doing. HORSESHIT! Why doesnt he put that damned temper to use for a change?? Everybody knows he has it - when do we get to see it? Nancy Pelosi is a flippin retard who hasnt done one thing since entering office - and we should all be HAPPY that she hasnt!
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I do know the Republicans and some Conservatives have been "taking the high ground" and that worked great in 2006, didn't it?
Beats the hell out of the liberal practice of party over country.
Not when the party suffers, and then the country suffers, after a great man like Tom DeLay has been discarded for absolutely no reason. This known proclivity of the party to throw every targeted republican overboard is not wise. It encourages the democrats to create false scandals because they know they will be triumphant. It's sick, really...and it makes the Republicans look stupid, weak, and easy to manipulate.
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I do know the Republicans and some Conservatives have been "taking the high ground" and that worked great in 2006, didn't it?
Beats the hell out of the liberal practice of party over country.
Not when the party suffers, and then the country suffers, after a great man like Tom DeLay has been discarded for absolutely no reason. This known proclivity of the party to throw every targeted republican overboard is not wise. It encourages the democrats to create false scandals because they know they will be triumphant. It's sick, really...and it makes the Republicans look stupid, weak, and easy to manipulate.
Sadly, it isn't just "Look." Thank God Teh Rove is showing the Right what "Having Balls" means.
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great. this was considered a "safe" seat before the indictment.
Stevens won't give up on re-election try despite indictment (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/45947.html)
ANCHORAGE — Indicted U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens is pushing forward with his re-election campaign regardless of the political analysts who say he's dead in the water.
"I hope he drops out simply because I think he would suffer humiliation," said Anchorage pollster and political consultant Marc Hellenthal. "The public, given the atmosphere and given what's happened, is going to presume guilt. ... He still has, even if he is guilty, a rather distinguished career representing Alaska, and we shouldn't forget that."
Stevens, who has never had a close election race since being appointed to the Senate in 1968, says he's innocent and will fight the charges. His campaign is expressing confidence, and even detractors concede his reservoir of loyalty in the state.
The question is whether a federal corruption indictment is enough to poison that goodwill.
It's too late for Stevens to withdraw his name from the Aug. 26 Republican primary ballot, even if he wanted to. But if he won the primary and then resigned, the state Republican Party could pick his replacement for the November general election.
More (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/45947.html)
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I do know the Republicans and some Conservatives have been "taking the high ground" and that worked great in 2006, didn't it?
Beats the hell out of the liberal practice of party over country.
Not when the party suffers, and then the country suffers, after a great man like Tom DeLay has been discarded for absolutely no reason. This known proclivity of the party to throw every targeted republican overboard is not wise. It encourages the democrats to create false scandals because they know they will be triumphant. It's sick, really...and it makes the Republicans look stupid, weak, and easy to manipulate.
What evidence do you have that the party's definition of it's best interests is equivilent to "the best interests of the country", pray tell?
The state Treasurer for the State of Missouri - Sarah Steelman - is a Republican running for governor of the state this year. Because she has remained true to the principles the party traditionally has claimed to stand for, and thus been a roadblock to Republican-sponsored corruption in that state, the Republican party is trying to eat her alive politically. Because of this, the democrat is standing a good chance of getting the Governor's chair in Missouri this election.
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I do know the Republicans and some Conservatives have been "taking the high ground" and that worked great in 2006, didn't it?
Beats the hell out of the liberal practice of party over country.
Not when the party suffers, and then the country suffers, after a great man like Tom DeLay has been discarded for absolutely no reason. This known proclivity of the party to throw every targeted republican overboard is not wise. It encourages the democrats to create false scandals because they know they will be triumphant. It's sick, really...and it makes the Republicans look stupid, weak, and easy to manipulate.
What evidence do you have that the party's definition of it's best interests is equivilent to "the best interests of the country", pray tell?
The state Treasurer for the State of Missouri - Sarah Steelman - is a Republican running for governor of the state this year. Because she has remained true to the principles the party traditionally has claimed to stand for, and thus been a roadblock to Republican-sponsored corruption in that state, the Republican party is trying to eat her alive politically. Because of this, the democrat is standing a good chance of getting the Governor's chair in Missouri this election.
What evidence do I have? It wasn't an editorial. It is my constant opinion that men like Tom DeLay are what is best for this country. Anymore questions?
"Republican-sponsored corruption" sounds like a oxymoron. I don't know much about Steelman except she is a Ron Paul subscriber.
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Matt Blunt, the current - Republican - Governor of Missouri tried to use public funds to "settle" sexual harrassment charges against his state Secretary of Agriculture. Not only inappropriate use of public money, but he did so in a "closed" agreement with the plaintiff, keeping it out of the public forum. Ms. Steelman had to stop payment on the check the Governor wrote, in order to keep the public's money from being used to save a corrupt politician's ass.
There have been other occasions in her time as state treasurer, where she has had to put the brakes on Republican corruption.
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Matt Blunt, the current - Republican - Governor of Missouri tried to use public funds to "settle" sexual harrassment charges against his state Secretary of Agriculture. Not only inappropriate use of public money, but he did so in a "closed" agreement with the plaintiff, keeping it out of the public forum. Ms. Steelman had to stop payment on the check the Governor wrote, in order to keep the public's money from being used to save a corrupt politician's ass.
There have been other occasions in her time as state treasurer, where she has had to put the brakes on Republican corruption.
Is this the sec. of ag who was forced to resign? The case where the woman who sued settled out of court? The one where the state was going to pay her (and did) out of its legal fund? The same money that would have been reimbursed to the dept. of ag from the legal fund anyway? I don't see how what Steelman did was so special or heroic. The taxpayer was going to (and did) get stuck with the bill in the end.
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Matt Blunt, the current - Republican - Governor of Missouri tried to use public funds to "settle" sexual harrassment charges against his state Secretary of Agriculture. Not only inappropriate use of public money, but he did so in a "closed" agreement with the plaintiff, keeping it out of the public forum. Ms. Steelman had to stop payment on the check the Governor wrote, in order to keep the public's money from being used to save a corrupt politician's ass.
There have been other occasions in her time as state treasurer, where she has had to put the brakes on Republican corruption.
Is this the sec. of ag who was forced to resign? The case where the woman who sued settled out of court? The one where the state was going to pay her (and did) out of its legal fund? The same money that would have been reimbursed to the dept. of ag from the legal fund anyway? I don't see how what Steelman did was so special or heroic. The taxpayer was going to (and did) get stuck with the bill in the end.
All true, except the state wasn't the one being sued. The harrasser was. It was - therefore - inappropriate to use taxpayer dollars to pay for his ****-up, especially when the public was getting the bill without getting to know what it was paying for (the settlement was sealed at the governor's order). The taxpayer did not get the bill in the end, because the treasurer stopped payment on the settlement check that should have never been issued.
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Matt Blunt, the current - Republican - Governor of Missouri tried to use public funds to "settle" sexual harrassment charges against his state Secretary of Agriculture. Not only inappropriate use of public money, but he did so in a "closed" agreement with the plaintiff, keeping it out of the public forum. Ms. Steelman had to stop payment on the check the Governor wrote, in order to keep the public's money from being used to save a corrupt politician's ass.
There have been other occasions in her time as state treasurer, where she has had to put the brakes on Republican corruption.
Is this the sec. of ag who was forced to resign? The case where the woman who sued settled out of court? The one where the state was going to pay her (and did) out of its legal fund? The same money that would have been reimbursed to the dept. of ag from the legal fund anyway? I don't see how what Steelman did was so special or heroic. The taxpayer was going to (and did) get stuck with the bill in the end.
All true, except the state wasn't the one being sued. The harrasser was. It was - therefore - inappropriate to use taxpayer dollars to pay for his ****-up, especially when the public was getting the bill without getting to know what it was paying for (the settlement was sealed at the governor's order). The taxpayer did not get the bill in the end, because the treasurer stopped payment on the settlement check that should have never been issued.
That's not the way I remember it being reported. The woman sued the sec. of ag. through the state, which agreed to settle out of court for less than $100,000. The woman was paid out of the state legal fund. I remember following the case a couple of years ago. If the woman hasn't been paid, then the state is back in court for failing to satisfy the settlement to which the state agreed.