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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on February 07, 2016, 09:19:45 AM
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HughBeaumont (22,048 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027591119
Anyone think Republicans are winning the Presidency?
Name that candidate now. Name that person now.
Hearing some rumblings that "we're in danger of losing the presidency". Seriously. I'm all ears. Who does it?
Trump? PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT. Guy's a carnival barker and a comedy act. Trust me; once reason sets in, if he wins the primary, it's barely. He doesn't want to be president, he wants to be dictator. That's something he and his idiot supporters don't seem to get.
Carson? Good as done. The guy's too whacked out on Jesus Juice to be taken seriously.
Cruz? LGBTQI-hating Christo-Fascists aren't fashionable on young voters with a brain stem. Or GenX voters. Or GenY voters. The only people who would vote for this guy are white, male and in the autumn of their lives.
Rubio? Not happening. You forget whatever the guy says five minutes after he says it.
Fiorina? Yeah, let's vote for politically expedient and facially repellent ex-CEOs who fire 30,000 workers while voting pay raises for themselves. Remember Mitten's quote of "I like firing people"? Think that times 30.
The point is that nobody from the GOP field can be sold or reinvented as a moderate like they did George Dubya. Even if they tried to, they couldn't. Mitt, already somewhat of a wingnut, had no choice but to cater to the TeaHadi nutjobs. He lost huge.
The days of an extremist (and when I say "extremist", I'm talking "embracing the opposite of everything that made this country politically and economically sound") garnering appeal on a national level are over. What works in localized politics doesn't play out to the big picture. Our population at large is no longer down with a Revelation-lovin' nutbar at the helm of the United States. You might not think the Bewsh years aren't in the American voter's minds . . . but they are.
No one wants to go back to that, and while they're not forthcoming about it, it's there. Make no mistake.
That's not to say "It's in the bag". Get out and vote to make it happen and crush these bastards with force.
Let's see. The dems have Hillary and Bernie.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlNXKOChi8w)
Erich Bloodaxe BSN (13,321 posts)
1. Only if Hillary is our nom. Nobody else can bring out every possible Republican voter while turning off so many Dem voters.
HughBeaumont (22,048 posts)
7. A general hangup with Hillary is this:
What does she STAND for? Political weather vanes or those who run on a candidacy of "Let's work within reason" when you got a Paul Ryan-run congress never sat well with me. Is she going to be the same candidate that supported offshore outsourcing in the 2000s or is she taking a left turn on economics? Is she going to rein in war spending or will she go to political expediency like she did when the Failure Fuhrer wanted his folly wars? I still don't think an extremist beats Hillary, but that general election is close enough to be . . . . well, worrisome.
ananda (15,455 posts)
11. Gore actually won the 2000 election. The SCOTUS decided to SELECT Bush. And Gore and the Dems didn't put up a fight.
Sanders will though!
Go Sanders!
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PFunk1 (48 posts)
13. Actually I do. And this is how.
It's called "Pyrrhic victory" or "Win the battle, Lose the War".
Hillary unleashes her 'dirty' tricks bag (super-delegates, slime attacks, etc) on Bernie to win the nod. But in doing so many indies, Bernie supporters, Millennials, and others are PO'd enough to not vote, and sit this one out. In-short demoralize the democratic party base big time .
The Repugs on the other hand finally settle on a candidate and with MSM help prop, clean him up to be presentable to the general public-while heaping propaganda to further influence those to sit-out the election along with major election rigging and other crap to help in this.
All of this combined in the end will get just enough gullible idiots to win them the white house.
If you think this wont happen. A lot of folks said Bush couldn't win the white house either.
Star Member HughBeaumont (22,048 posts)
25. How does Rubio get sold as a moderate?
How does Cruz get . . . that's what no one is answering. How do any of these nutbars get sold as moderates in technologically advanced 2016??
What, is some pie-in-the-sky event happening where Trump all of a sudden sees the viability in Medicare for All, or for Cruz to stop hating/fearing the LGBTQI community? Do all of their war hard-ons magically go away with a little help from our press? Do the past actions/votes of Fiorina, Rubio and Jeb! get 1984-scrubbed out somehow?
You're somehow believing that what works in localized American politics is going to play out on a national level. It doesn't work that way anymore.
And if you want me to take this seriously, ace the red-baiting. No one under 45 cares about that here.
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The same stuff they were saying in 2010 and 2014. :lmao:
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The question that seems to never come up in la la land is how exactly does hillary of bernie go about selling another major change in the health insurance industry to the taxpayers in the US without tarring the ole bamster?
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Let's see. The dems have Hillary and Bernie.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlNXKOChi8w)
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ananda (15,455 posts)
11. Gore actually won the 2000 election. The SCOTUS decided to SELECT Bush. And Gore and the Dems didn't put up a fight.
Oh really How many courts did it go through and the dems still lost.
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Cruz doesn't appeal to anyone other than misogynists and old whites? Completely horseshit. The focus group I attended had young females & men who supported Cruz.
DUmmies are so delusional and just stick their preconceived narrative they compose in their feeble brains.
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The Repugs on the other hand finally settle on a candidate and with MSM help prop, clean him up to be presentable to the general public
Effing liar. The MSM will choose a gop candidate/candidates to push on the voters during the primary, but as soon as a nominee is picked. The MSM brings out the long knives and all the dirt they dug up during the primary,
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There's about half a dozen people on this very board alone that could run and beat Hillary or Bernie.
This election is truly ours to lose.
I just hope we don't screw it up.
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The question that seems to never come up in la la land is how exactly does hillary of bernie go about selling another major change in the health insurance industry to the taxpayers in the US without tarring the ole bamster?
By creatively lying about it, same as the previous major change in the health insurance industry. It isn't that difficult when the media has your back, front, and flank, as with the ACA.
CMD
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There's about half a dozen people on this very board alone that could run and beat Hillary or Bernie.
This election is truly ours to lose.
I just hope we don't screw it up.
If nominated, I will not run, if elected, I will not serve.
It has nothing to to with the skeletons in the closet. I received no "marked" classified information, nor did I send any, from my private server, in the bathroom of my provider, which was easily hacked.
NO questions. Y'all.
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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #8)Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:12 AM
ananda (15,461 posts)
11. Gore actually won the 2000 election.
The SCOTUS decided to SELECT Bush.
And Gore and the Dems didn't put up a fight.
Sanders will though!
Go Sanders!
Sanders will fight? Cankles cheated her ass off in Iowa. Did the liver spotted old fool fight back? No, he didn't. He didn't fight back when some nobody BLM tub o guts activist grabbed his microphone and hijacked his rally at the beginning of his campaign and he isn't fighting back now. Imagine how that frail old liver spotted fool will shrivel if he has to go up against someone like Cruz or Trump or Rubio or anybody.
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If nominated, I will not run, if elected, I will not serve.
It has nothing to to with the skeletons in the closet. I received no "marked" classified information, nor did I send any, from my private server, in the bathroom of my provider, which was easily hacked.
NO questions. Y'all.
Admit NOTHING!
Deny EVERYTHING!
Make counter accusations!
It's the demonrat way...
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ananda (15,455 posts)
11. Gore actually won the 2000 election. The SCOTUS decided to SELECT Bush. And Gore and the Dems didn't put up a fight.
How many recounts? Bush's vote margin did what each time? Marginalized absentee Mostly Military voters?
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Just never ends with you retards.... :thatsright:
The Repugs on the other hand finally settle on a candidate and with MSM help
Find the nearest highway and just keep walking. The gene pool, thanks you.
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By creatively lying about it, same as the previous major change in the health insurance industry. It isn't that difficult when the media has your back, front, and flank, as with the ACA.
CMD
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I just calls em like I sees em.
CMD