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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 13, 2016, 01:04:36 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027523578
Oh my.
I'm not bothering to bring over the primitive comments made for good public relations, window dressing, but instead only the comments that tell us how the primitives really feel.
rug (71,773 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:24 PM
Police: Constable serving eviction order kills 12-year-old
DUNCANNON, Pa. (AP) — A constable serving an eviction order at a central Pennsylvania apartment fired at an armed tenant but the bullet passed through the man's arm and fatally struck his 12-year-old daughter, authorities said.
The constable went to the apartment near Duncannon, about 10 miles northwest of Harrisburg, at about 10 a.m. Monday to enforce a district judge's eviction order, state police said Tuesday.
A man answered the door, closed it, then reopened it and exchanged words briefly with the constable, police said. He then pointed a loaded .223-caliber rifle that had been "slung and concealed along his body" at the constable's chest, police said. The girl was standing behind her father, authorities said.
The constable, investigators said, drew his own .40-caliber weapon and fired once, but the bullet went through the man's upper left arm and hit the girl. She was pronounced dead at the scene. Her name wasn't immediately released.
http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/pennsylvania/mc-police-constable-serving-eviction-order-kills-12yearold-20160112-story.html
It's more than guns. It's class warfare.
And away we go.....
LiberalArkie (6,214 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:31 PM
1. It always has been class warfare. Look at how police have been dressed forever. Nice tailored
clothes, a tie and tie-clasp. Even patrol officers for years wore a tie. Nothing says business like a tie.
rug (71,773 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:41 PM
4. Evicting families from property, at gunpoint, distills the whole rotten system.
malaise (135,880 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:45 PM
7. Yep but the system is all about the property owners
they don't give a flying fugg about the poor or renters
Remember folks, malice is part of the 1% down there in Jamaica, one of the poorest countries in the world. And also one of the most criminal.
One's reasonably certain malice's property's pretty well protected.
Waldorf (400 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:48 PM
9. Seems it was the evictee that was pointing the gun. I blame this whole thing on the father.
rug (71,773 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:57 PM
16. As long as yo're looking at the "whole thing", have you considered why this family was being evicted
in the first place? Have you considered how it came to be that property rights justify a killing?
rug (71,773 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:43 PM
6. The landlord will deduct the cost of cleaning his daughter's blood from the security deposit.
**** this post.
liberalhistorian (20,064 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 09:49 PM
49. Property and money have
always meant more than human lives in this country. It's baked into our history.
^^^a once-active member of conservativecave.
liberalhistorian (20,064 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 09:47 PM
46. The constable shares the blame for
firing at someone knowing a child was right behind him. They're both guilty here.
choie (1,495 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:02 PM
55. That's ridiculous
so what was the constable supposed to do? Allow the father to kill him? let's be reasonable now. I am ALWAYS more than skeptical about police involved shootings, but this was not the constable's fault.
NutmegYankee (10,841 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:00 PM
62. Yes the constable shares blame.
It is the responsibility of the shooter to know his target and what lies beyond. He ****ed up.
As for what to do, how about back away and call for backup.
In case one's not aware, the 12-year-old wasn't visible at the half-opened door.
ncjustice80 (892 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 09:57 PM
53. He made a choice, but the constable shot and killed the girl.
It's their job to put their life behind others!
valerief (49,603 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 08:36 PM
33. Why would ANYONE shoot someone over an eviction?
**** these ammosexual assholes.
ncjustice80 (892 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:00 PM
54. Indeed.
Murder a little girl over an eviction. A new low in America.
ncjustice80 (892 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 09:56 PM
52. Pig needs to get charged with murder!
Why does a constable even have a gun? And it's his damn job to eat a bullet if a child is in potential danger. Hope he rots in jail.
ncjustice80 (892 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:25 PM
64. They need to defund and disarm the police- NOW.
It's too bad that nominations for the Top DUmmies of 2016 don't open up for ten months yet, long after this is forgotten, as this primitive's ^^^ making a good run for the prize.
Loki (2,278 posts) Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:55 AM
75. Right, the father should have stood meekly by and let his family be evicted in the dead of winter.
People are suffering, out of jobs, behind in their rent, and I think that if this had been my father, he probably would have done something very similar. I think he was just trying to keep the cretin law enforcer away from his family. What kind of man evicts people from housing in the winter with a family? Police have a right to defend themselves, where are our rights????? Oh I forgot, we have none when it comes to them.
There's plenty of primitives supporting the actions of the constable, but again as we all know, it's primitive bullshit. They know they're being watched and quoted, and so are putting on a reasonable face. But we know how they really feel anyway.
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ncjustice80 (892 posts) Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:00 PM
54. Indeed.
Murder a little girl over an eviction. A new low in America.
Not sure nc knows the meaning of the word "murder".
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So their insane and irrational hatred of police trumps their insane and irrational hatred of guns.
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So their insane and irrational hatred of police trumps their insane and irrational hatred of guns.
Not to mention their insane and irrational love for deadbeats.
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Threatening a LEO with a gun usually doesn't end well.
The morons at DU seem unwilling to understand this and how the situation got to where the constable had to defend himself. Evictions are not a matter of the landlord dialing up the police station and having an officer come out the same day. Whether the tenant failed to pay rent or was destroying the property or ... it would have gone on for several months, Then the landlord would have started the weeks- or months-long eviction process. The decision would have given the tenant a couple of weeks or more to vacate. Only after all that and the expiration of that latter time period would a LEO have been called in.
The way the father handled the situation probably concealed the presence/location of his daughter. He didn't warn her to leave the room. Apparently, he had the rifle ready at hand, which means his response was pre-planned. It also seem likely that he moved in response to the officer drawing and firing, resulting in being hit in the arm, and uncovering his daughter.
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A constable serving an eviction order at a central Pennsylvania apartment fired at an armed tenant but the bullet passed through the man's arm and fatally struck his 12-year-old daughter, authorities said.
Just as an aside: what was the constable's 12 yo daughter doing there? I am sure said constable feels awful for killing his own daughter.
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Loki (2,278 posts) Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:55 AM
75. Right, the father should have stood meekly by and let his family be evicted in the dead of winter.
People are suffering, out of jobs, behind in their rent, and I think that if this had been my father, he probably would have done something very similar.
Yes, this obozo economy has been hard on everyone but especially the poor and minorities.
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Yes, this obozo economy has been hard on everyone but especially the poor and minorities.
It is owebuma's fault in the final analysis.
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Loki (2,278 posts) Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:55 AM
75. ... and I think that if this had been my father, he probably would have done something very similar.
Not touching that line with a 10-foot German (I'm ethnically sensitive ... unlike the rest of the world I won't pick on the Poles :rimshot: ).
So, it's the landlord's fault for not wanting a family squatting in his property? Some one who dragged out the eviction process until it was winter? Some one who spent his time and $$ on preparing to shoot anyone who dared try to enforce the eviction notice rather than working to find shelter for his family?
I hope mo-mo sets up some chickens in Loki's car as a squatter-chicken-coop, see how Loki responds when it's his property being stolen from him.
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The only criminally, civilly and morally liable mope in this is the dope of an insane father who knowingly put his daughter's life in danger.
It's truly unfortunate that the police officer didn't kill his miserable ass instead of hitting the little girl he didn't even know was there. But Daddy Dearest knew and didn't care.
It's almost as hard to evict a deadbeat tenant in this country as it is these illegal cockroaches we have infesting our country. To all the damn bleeding hearts who want to pay for their support, instead of trying to confiscate money you didn't earn and have NO right to re-gift to others, and instead of electing crapweasels who do the same with our taxes, try for once extending that bleeding heart mindset into actually PRACTICING charity for yourself.
I'd much prefer giving my money to animal shelters because animals don't piss me off on a regular basis the way professional victims and their enablers do. :fuelfire:
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It is very sad the 12 year old girl died. The father should of never pointed a gun at a cop. That is plain stupid.
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It is very sad the 12 year old girl died. The father should of never pointed a gun at a cop. That is plain stupid.
I see that you're using your 'rabbit sense' there, Ptarmy . . . :whistling:
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I see that you're using your 'rabbit sense' there, Ptarmy . . . :whistling:
Rabbit sense is not very common.
Certainly not as common as common sense.