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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: FaC on January 12, 2016, 08:43:42 AM
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Purveyor (26,181 posts)
German Sexual Assaults Lead To ‘I Told You So’ Claims On Muslim Immigrants In U.S.
American conservatives are claiming a "we told you so" moment.
From Republican front-runner Donald Trump to evangelical Franklin Graham, many on the political right are pointing to the shocking wave of sexual assaults in Germany as a justification of their concerns of Muslim immigration.
It's now clear that what police first described as a "relaxed atmosphere" in Cologne, Germany, on New Year's Eve was anything but: Of the more than 500 criminal complaints related to incidents near the city's main train station that night, roughly 40 percent include allegations of sexual assault, including at least two rapes. A police report cited by the BBC described the assailants — small groups of men broken out from an estimated 1,000-man crowd — as "almost exclusively" North African or Arab.
To conservatives, the depraved assaults confirmed their fears.
"What's going on in Germany is unthinkable," Donald Trump said at an Iowa rally over the weekend, when he linked the incidents abroad to "radical Islamic terrorism."
MORE...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/11/german-sexual-assaults-lead-to-i-told-you-so-claims-on-muslim-immigrants/
As we will find out, our buddly philosslayer has stepped in it with both feet.
philosslayer (1,748 posts)
1. Did you expect anything different?
Islamophobes don't need much of an excuse to show their hatred.
We see a DUmp value system is being built before our very eyes. In the newly built DUmmie value system the feminazis readily throw the poor, misunderstood Muslims under the bus...
smirkymonkey (15,771 posts)
4. Obviously, you are not female. We don't need this kind of harrassment here.
You obviously don't care about how this affects women. What is the difference between being prejudiced upon race or sex? You are just choosing one over the other.
Nuclear Unicorn (17,613 posts)
5. You consider mass, mob sexual assault to be "not much of an excuse"?
Democat (9,930 posts)
11. Rape is no big deal?
I always thought DU members took rape pretty seriously, but a few don't see any big deal in this case?
Coventina (13,321 posts)
18. I guess being a women = "Islamophobe" in your world.
A short sighting of the clue bat...
plus5mace (59 posts)
2. Yeah, they were right. This has been a devastating turn of events.
Muslims get a free pass to rape women in Europe because the government is too PC to stop them. It's like something in a right wing comic book. If I read it as fiction, I'd say it wasn't a credible story line, yet here is the chiefs of police in two large cities saying that they covered up crimes to avoid creating anti-immigrant sentiment. The whole Bernie vs Hillary show won't mean anything if the public thinks we care more about not causing offense than about protecting them.
smirkymonkey (15,771 posts)
3. Yes, and as usual the rape apologists will be out in full force with their charges of
"islamaphobia". If the shoe fits...
pampango (21,809 posts)
8. Liberals are too "politically correct" to stop them? Who does that sound like?
Muslims get a free pass to rape women in Europe because the government is too PC to stop them.
Acting and sounding like Marine Le Pen or Geert Wilders is not the answer. All Muslims are not bad people. They do not get a 'free pass' to rape women in Europe', regardless of what the far-right claims. The vast majority of them are good people as is true with any ethnic or racial group.
The whole Bernie vs Hillary show won't mean anything if the public thinks we care more about not causing offense than about protecting them.
The Donald, Cruz and the other republicans are all about protecting us from evil Muslims (and Mexicans and gay marriage and China and Japan, etc.). If 'protection' from all the evil Muslims is what you are looking for, there is a party for that. The GOP will keep them all out of the US under the assumption that they are all bad. Should we start to act like republicans (condemn 'political correctness', create and cater to fear) in order to win the next election?
Another brief appearance of the clue bat
Jim Beard (597 posts)
6. Merkel admits there is a problem, just too many, too fast
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3394896/Merkel-admits-Europe-lost-control-refugee-crisis.html#ixzz3x0SKsGgt
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German Chancellor admitted Europe is 'vulnerable' and said countries do not have control of the situation
Angela Merkel also said the euro was 'directly linked' to freedom of movement in Europe and if countries do not allow their borders to be crossed without much difficulty, the European single market would 'suffer acutely'
Thousands of people took to the streets of the German city of Leipzig to protest against the influx of refugees
Protesters chanted 'Resistance!' and 'Deport them!' and some had signs which read 'Refugees not welcome!'
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Quantess (26,804 posts)
7. I told you so, too.
I am not surprised at all by the turn of events.
LisaL (26,385 posts)
10. It's kind of obvious.
You let that many people into the country (from a completely different culture, no less), you are bound to have problems.
Wait,, wut?
Dear LisaL - what do you think happens when you let 11 MILLION people into the country?
Democat (9,930 posts)
12. Eventually the left will be forced to face reality
In Europe and America.
Democat is living on the edge, DUmmie style!
pampango (21,809 posts)
17. You don't often hear liberals say
"the left will be forced to face reality" and adopt the attitudes and policies of the right.
Denial is more than a river in Egypt (yet another part of the world being "helped" by Obama's foreign policy but that is a discussion for another time)
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Once again leftist world view,colored by incessant greed for others money has seen a light at the end of a tunnel.
It is a speeding freight train coming at them.
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pampango
Liberals are too "politically correct" to stop them? Who does that sound like?
It sounds like someone telling the truth. Not that you would recognize what that is.
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Response to pampango (Reply #17)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 09:29 AM
The2ndWheel (7,340 posts)
19. Unfortunately, and what makes everything so difficult
is that there isn't a true reality out there somewhere. Every person or side thinks they or it sees the correct reality. It's all subjective. Which is itself a subjective statement, which means there might be a one true reality. We really can't know. Again with the subjectivity.
With the amount of time that human beings have been around, if all of us can't agree on everything by now, we most likely never will. Damn, did it again.
This is why any time one of your cretins gets into power everything turns into a ****ing mess.
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Sometimes idol worship brings a clash of golden cows, forcing the idolaters to choose one idol over the other.
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One phony sexual assault at UVA is a tragedy. 500 actual ones in Cologne is a statistic.
It must suck to be a liberal woman... the unwashed Muslim hordes halfway across the world are more important than you are to your fellow travelers.
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The2ndWheel (7,340 posts)
19. Unfortunately, and what makes everything so difficult
is that there isn't a true reality out there somewhere.
Bullshit.
Here's reality, DUchebag. Gangs of Muslim men committed hundreds of sexual assaults. Explain that away, you DUngbeetle.
Why do you hate women, boys, and goats?
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Tue Jan 12, 2016, 09:29 AM
The2ndWheel (7,340 posts)
19. Unfortunately, and what makes everything so difficult
is that there isn't a true reality out there somewhere. Every person or side thinks they or it sees the correct reality. It's all subjective. Which is itself a subjective statement, which means there might be a one true reality. We really can't know. Again with the subjectivity.
Try barfing that BS to the hundreds of women assaulted and raped in Cologne, Berlin, Hamburg, Helsinki, and probably more cities than the MSM has cared to mention!
DU equine anuses can't even acknowledge being wrong when reality is violating women's bodies!
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Quantess (26,809 posts)
37. I don't know what's going on in the USA, since I'm in Europe.
I have noticed a slight increase in criticism of the extremely welcoming and generous immigration policy in Sweden. You are not immediately, knee-jerk labelled, "RACIST" anymore for stating obvious truths and for taking about real incidences, like compared with 6 months ago or a couple of years ago. Shit has gotten real, and most people know it.
You asked the other person, not me, I know.
Wow - does this mean that there is a time, admittedly sometime in the far, far future where playing the race card is passe?
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frizzled (403 posts)
23. There is an irreducible conflict between feminism and multiculturalism.
Must-read link here:
http://freedomfromunrealloyalties.tumblr.com/post/132847281088/from-is-multiculturalism-bad-for-women-edited#tumblr_notes
In its demand for equality for women, feminism sets itself in opposition to virtually every culture on earth.
Our ruling elites don't like to talk in terms of blunt conflicts, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
It implies that some aspects of our society are unworkable and the project of multicultural liberalism will fail, but we're under no such obligation here to pretend all is rosy.
The clue bat appears again and PHDD is gonna be pissed!
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The DUmp thread is producing more and more jewels:
PeteSelman (1,314 posts)
39. I don't see how it applies here.
Europeans are too cowed to fight back. Here? You'll get your ass shot if you try that shit.
Pete, Pete, Pete - you know that you are not to advocate any form of self defense which would insult or degrade your attacker, especially self defense that involves (GASP) a gun...
ChisolmTrailDem (7,206 posts)
41. So, if an action leads to a refugee getting their ass shot, isn't the damange (sic) to the...
...woman already done at that point?
PeteSelman (1,314 posts)
47. You can't just shoot them before they do anything.
I just don't see it happening here at all due to the threat of fighting back.
Nobody defends the Europeans, not the cops, not the government. There's defense here.
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Sometimes idol worship brings a clash of golden cows, forcing the idolaters to choose one idol over the other.
Just thinking about your comment, I guess liberals prop up these icons like gods: the poor muslim family; father, leading mother, leading baby, across the deadly waters of the mediterranean, or the victimized woman who emerges as a powerful warrior feminist...... and now these two gods are fighting each other, and liberals are scurrying to figure out which god they should support.
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Try barfing that BS to the hundreds of women assaulted and raped in Cologne, Berlin, Hamburg, Helsinki, and probably more cities than the MSM has cared to mention!
DU equine anuses can't even acknowledge being wrong when reality is violating women's bodies!
Saw a bit ago that similar assaults happened in Salzburg and Zurich.
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Wow - does this mean that there is a time, admittedly sometime in the far, far future where playing the race card is passe?
Only cuz the DUmp monkeys have moved on to playing the Islamophobe card.
As tolerant as some of these disgusting assholes continue to be I'm surprised they aren't criticizing the German women for not just lying down and spreading their legs so as to not offend their Muzzie "guests".
Yeah, while it seems some of them have seen the light, not that we could EVER expect an apology out of them for calling us names, the rest of the DUmp is a pervert's playground, apparently, where anything goes as long as you're not a straight, white male. And wimmen can complain about the aforementioned males, but those bitches better not pipe up and say bad true things about Muzzie men molesters. :fuelfire:
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Once again leftist world view,colored by incessant greed for others money has seen a light at the end of a tunnel.
It is a speeding freight train coming at them.
Not just money, liberty, property and money.
Those things have no sanctity in the mind of a DUmmy, when they belong to others.
CMD
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Quote from: FaC on January 12, 2016, 12:21:25 PM
Wow - does this mean that there is a time, admittedly sometime in the far, far future where playing the race card is passe?
Prolly not.
Black Congresswoman Calls White Congressman Racist Because He’s Upset Black Babies Are Aborted. :thatsright:
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/11/black-congresswoman-calls-white-congressman-racist-because-hes-upset-black-babies-are-aborted/
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La Lioness Priyanka (48,897 posts)
80. the reality is that in this instance they were right, and what happened is shitty
and the fact that it happened will have repercussions.
when a stereotype is confirmed, it just amplifies the stereotype and in this case it was confirmed.
the whole thing is shitty.
Perhaps it is not a stereotype when it is confirmed in multiple places by different groups of people...
Xyzse (7,728 posts)
96. -SIGH- I am getting this from my mother...
She asked me about this, and I told her to please don't lump all of a group together.
Then she went off asking "What's wrong with you?"
I just had to shrug it off, too tired to argue.
Perhaps you should listen to your mother for a change.
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It's pretty disgusting that the WashPost writer's and DU-folks' early - if not first - thoughts about this are who gains/loses from it politically, not figuring out how to improve nations' security and their women's safety! Not surprising, just expectedly disgusting.
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La Lioness Priyanka (48,897 posts)
80. the reality is that in this instance they were right, and what happened is shitty
"shitty":
Eight men charged over brutal gang rape (http://www.thelocal.se/20120309/39580)
Asylum seeker raped virgin twice as she walked home from night out (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6856065/Evil-asylum-seeker-who-raped-virgin-as-she-walked-home-jailed-for-10-years.html)
Three-year-old boy raped at asylum centre in Norway (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/3-year-old-boy-raped-at-asylum-centre-in-norway-a6808551.html)
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"shitty":
Eight men charged over brutal gang rape (http://www.thelocal.se/20120309/39580)
Asylum seeker raped virgin twice as she walked home from night out (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6856065/Evil-asylum-seeker-who-raped-virgin-as-she-walked-home-jailed-for-10-years.html)
Three-year-old boy raped at asylum centre in Norway (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/3-year-old-boy-raped-at-asylum-centre-in-norway-a6808551.html)
LLP may have under-stated both the scale and scope of what happened - authorities and the MSM in EuroLand and the US have been really slow in reporting and connecting dots - but at least "shitty" is in reference to the sexual assaults rather than having been wrong about the character of many of the "refugees".
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LLP may have under-stated both the scale and scope of what happened - authorities and the MSM in EuroLand and the US have been really slow in reporting and connecting dots - but at least "shitty" is in reference to the sexual assaults rather than having been wrong about the character of many of the "refugees".
Considering the vitriol and anger your average liberal spews when it comes to modern feminism, her flippant characterization of these horrible acts as merely "shitty" is insulting (and just a little bit hypocritical).
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Considering the vitriol and anger your average liberal spews when it comes to modern feminism, her flippant characterization of these horrible acts as merely "shitty" is insulting (and just a little bit hypocritical).
Can I add condescending and patronizing ?
It's a clash of cultures, when according to libs all cultures are qualitatively if not quantitatively equal.
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Considering the vitriol and anger your average liberal spews when it comes to modern feminism, her flippant characterization of these horrible acts as merely "shitty" is insulting (and just a little bit hypocritical).
When I posted what you responded to I had missed this part of LLP's post:
when a stereotype is confirmed, it just amplifies the stereotype and in this case it was confirmed.
the whole thing is shitty.
It was right there in FaC's post, I simply didn't see it.
With that as context, equating the reinforcement of a stereotype - using her words - or all refugees coming under warranted suspicion with hundreds of rapes and sexual assaults is a trivialization of those women's suffering and a minimization of the male animals' crimes.
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Hey, lurking DUmmies: that kind of organized mass atrocity by your precious "refugees" is an excellent argument for 40 round magazines.
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPuMs3E_k0[/youtube]
WE TOLD YOU DUMBASSES THIS WOULD HAPPEN! :bird:
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https://www.facebook.com/458698164152194/videos/1009821615706510/?pnref=story
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I hope the only ones raped/molested were libs who insisted on letting the "refugees" into their country.
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Girl, 17, is 'raped' and her 14-year-old sister is sexually assaulted as she tried to save her when group of Syrian migrants surrounded them at German public swimming pool
Three Syrian teenagers arrested in Munich for attack on girls at public pool The three boys, all aged under 15, circled the two girls then groped them. One was arrested for rape and the other for assault, it has been reported It comes as concerns grow over the New Year mass assaults in Cologne.
Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3395924/Girl-17-raped-14-year-old-sister-sexually-assaulted-tried-save-group-Syrian-migrants-surrounded-German-public-swimming-pool.html)
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I hope the only ones raped/molested were libs who insisted on letting the "refugees" into their country.