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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 10, 2016, 08:40:03 AM
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liberalnarb (854 posts)
"You Just Want Free Stuff."
(http://imgur.com/NtxWMU6.jpg)
159 DU Wrecs, so far.
Here's a clue-by-4 Proglodytes...
...that pile of money was earned through voluntary transactions.
Taxes are involuntary.
That means you do not have a default right to take whatever you want.
HughBeaumont (21,952 posts)
2. "Pull yerselves up by the Bootstraps!!" - anyone who never had to.
You have to wonder about the arrogance of people who presume to know everyone else's life circumstances and feel entitled enough to legislate upon that interpretation.
Proserpina (1,495 posts)
4. We want what we worked for and you stole
You 1%ers have very convenient memories, morals, and tax avoidance attorneys...
Stole how?
If you think Billionaire X has too much money stop buying his products.
Marty McGraw (643 posts)
16. It's tragically comical
how life situates itself to reward such a small minority so lavishly who have this brain disorder. As if anyother profession out in the world means piss to the daily workings of ordinary life. Really makes one look around their entire life and feel ashamed. Sad
So, all the rich, well-off think one way and all you scraping, scrapping slugs think another way...
...but it's the rich who have the problem.
On the Road (20,654 posts)
6. It's Interesting to Note
that the cartoonist pretty much admitted Sanders's campaign is a money grab.
Saying Republicans want tax cuts doesn't really affect that point.
You notice.
How gauche.
Akamai (81 posts)
9. Bernie believes, I think, that if society as a whole wants to help
all of its members, even if it requires higher taxes-- especially on the richest, who will suffer significant pain by paying more -- then it is moral and right to do so.
This is not being given "free stuff" but a realization that we are all in this together.
Mob "morality" is one of the many evils the founders guarded against when they formed the republic.
And we're not all in this together because this is a very lopsided transaction being proposed.
You idiots want all the freebies and have said exactly NOTHING for the last century about what you will give in return except more shitty poetry.
noiretextatique (25,601 posts)
18. The "point" is an idiotic rw non-sequitur
And clearly, you missed THAT point
But you do want free stuff.
Go ahead, tell us you reject taxpayer funded healthcare, housing, food, education etc. that allows you to pay little or no money from your own pocket.
I dare you.
On the Road (20,654 posts)
20. Rhetorically,
arguing tu quoque or "you too" is considered an admission. I know that's not what the cartoonist intended, but what he wrote suggests that both sides valid arguments.
You noticed.
How gauche.
tecelote (2,779 posts)
8. Republicans love socialism as it stands today.
They bitch about food stamps but really food stamps are a gift to Walmart stockholders. Every dollar paid in food stamps is a dollar Walmart does not need to pay it's employees. The poor do not benefit, they work to sustain themselves. Stockholders benefit.
Endless war means endless profits. Our tax dollars are making war mongers rich while we are just creating more threats that demand more war.
Conversely...
You bitch about Walmart stockholders but you insist on feeding them with food stamps.
And I'm not sure how this MIC perpetual money machine idea will ever leave their heads. They seem to think FDR's spending in WW2 was funded by money shitting unicorns.
Bernardo de La Paz (9,915 posts)
17. That pile of cash is funded in part by government subsidies, infrastructure spending, ...
by government subsidies, infrastructure spending, gas taxes, defense spending on over-valued gold plated hammers, paying landowners not to grow crops, bank bailouts, ...., and trillions of dollars the government can't account for.
The poor don't pay taxes (a big part of the problem, especially when they're still allowed to vote).
But if a rich person does receive tax subsidies it is money they themselves have paid into the fund.
So when a poor person in the lowest quintile receives a subsidy what did they do to be entitled to it? Are they working on community projects? Did they surrender their voter registration card?
Shandris (2,658 posts)
19. I..I wouldn't mind a free relocation to a country of my choice. Can I have that Free Stuff?
Please? I promise I'll never vote against Republicans again if I can! ...granted, it's because I won't be here to do so, but still!
Looking to grope some German girls?
Dr. Xavier (187 posts)
23. CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE,
CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARe, CLASS WARFAre, CLASS WARFare, CLASS WARfare, CLASS WArfare, CLASS Warfare, CLASS warfare, CLASs warfare, CLAss warfare, CLass warfare, Class warfare, ... class ... oh, never mind...
You have no class and you aren't fit for warfare so why don't you sit down and be quiet before you get yourself into more trouble than you can handle.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027514605
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Akamai (81 posts)
9. Bernie believes, I think, that if society as a whole wants to help
all of its members, even if it requires higher taxes-- especially on the richest, who will suffer significant pain by paying more -- then it is moral and right to do so.
This is not being given "free stuff" but a realization that we are all in this together.
So...
"Bernie believes that if we want to help us, even if it requires theft from them (who will suffer significant pain) - then it is moral and right to do so."
Which really means: We want for them to suffer significant pain- and we believe it is moral and right to do so.
**** off, DUmmies.
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So...
"Bernie believes that if we want to help us, even if it requires theft from them (who will suffer significant pain) - then it is moral and right to do so."
Which really means: We want for them to suffer significant pain- and we believe it is moral and right to do so.
**** off, DUmmies.
What is really going to piss off the DUmmies is when THEY will be expected to contribute into the pot so THEY can get all THEIR "free stuff". The impact on their low, meager salaries would hit them harder (as a percentage), then the rich would be hit. After all, Bernie DID say "everyone" has to contribute.
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I have noticed that they (DUmmies) never seem to have a problem with rich actors, sports figures or liberal political elites....just rich businessmen, wall street or any rich conservative...
Funny how that works....
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After all, Bernie DID say "everyone" has to contribute.
"From each according to his ability" - with "ability" defined by the State.
Bernie learned his socialism from Karl Marx.
Personally.
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"From each according to his ability" - with "ability" defined by the State.
Bernie learned his socialism from Karl Marx.
Personally.
Exactly. "Ability", as defined by the state, means if you have $10 extra dollars, the state will take $5 now, and the rest later. Rest assured though, you have access to all kinds of "free" stuff.
By the way, I don't care what other members said about you when I first joined the cave, I think you're ok. :rofl::lol:
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Akamai (81 posts)
9. Bernie believes, I think, that if society as a whole wants to help
all of its members, even if it requires higher taxes-- especially on the richest, who will suffer significant pain by paying more -- then it is moral and right to do so.
This is not being given "free stuff" but a realization that we are all in this together.
Thats right up there with "If you like your healthcare...". No, we are not 'all in this together', DUmmies.
If we were, you'd come shovel my driveway and the driveways of others, for the freebies you get from our pockets...Oh, but then they wouldn't be freebies, and you clowns would howl and fling poo and have a general sad.
We are 'all in this together' like a thief and the thiefs victim are 'all in this together'.
:bigbird:
CMD
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Why is it that they never even suggest what contribution to this society they demand they intend to make?
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Exactly. "Ability", as defined by the state, means if you have $10 extra dollars, the state will take $5 now, and the rest later. Rest assured though, you have access to all kinds of "free" stuff.
By the way, I don't care what other members said about you when I first joined the cave, I think you're ok. :rofl::lol:
If that feeling persists for more than 4 hours, call your doctor.
:lmao:
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If that feeling persists for more than 4 hours, call your doctor.
:lmao:
Hey, if it persists for more than 4 hours, at my age, I'd fall down on my knees and thank God.
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So, DU-folk believe the man or woman who earned their pile of $$ by creating and producing is immoral, but the people who want to use government to steal that money are moral?
I'm guessing that if I posted my belief that "progressive" tax rates are theft, that would get a pizza delivered to me? (FWIW, our household income has never been 6 or more figures)
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If you have $20 and Bernie has $15, Bernie wants 15 of yours.
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Hey, if it persists for more than 4 hours, at my age, I'd fall down on my knees and thank God.
:lmao:
:cheersmate:
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There they go again talking about moral rights but unable to define where the right comes from? It is not a right just because you want it to be true because then what is a right today might not be a right tomorrow when things change.
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The dummies are just nothing more than thieves. That is all they are. They want everyone to contribute their "fair share"... except themselves. The dummies think they should not have to contribute a damn thing.
The dummies concept of "fair share" is:
"You have money, I want it, so give it to me."
The dummies can all FOAD.
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Just a reminder, DUmmies, the government makes no money. All of the money it has, it takes. So, a 'Tax Break' is not taking as much from someone or something - it isn't a 'handout'.
Whereas the government giving money to someone is a handout. Big difference there.
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According to DUmmies, the rich are rich because they charge too much for their goods or services.
Or, they pay their employees too little.
Or they pay foreign workers too little, and the displaced American workers nothing.
Or some combination of all three.
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Just a reminder, DUmmies, the government makes no money. All of the money it has, it takes. So, a 'Tax Break' is not taking as much from someone or something - it isn't a 'handout'.
Whereas the government giving money to someone is a handout. Big difference there.
I think many DU-folk do believe the government creates money when they print it. The concept that money without intrinsic value has "value" that depends on and varies with receivers' trust in the source country - its economy and government - eludes them. It's the reason a McD Happy Meal costs $2 or $3 US, but hundreds of billions or trillions of Zimbabwean Dollars
The government is their god, as close to omnipotent and omniscient as they believe exists; they trust in it.
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Akamai
This is not being given "free stuff" but a realization that we are all in this together.
You can't on one hand say "we're all in this together" and then turn around as say the things the primitives say about conservatives on the island. People who really believe we're all in this together don't say the things and behave the way liberals do towards conservatives.
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Akamai
This is not being given "free stuff" but a realization that we are all in this together.
Nonsense! The main reason most Progs aren't calling for the killing of "rich" creators and producers is that they don't think they can get away with being that honest, yet. So they settle for villifying them and trying to plunder "the rich", for now.
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Nonsense! The main reason most Progs aren't calling for the killing of "rich" creators and producers is that they don't think they can get away with being that honest, yet. So they settle for villifying them and trying to plunder "the rich", for now.
There is a small minority of proglodytes who know that you can get either milk or beef from a cow, but not both.
None of those proglodytes live on Skins' Island.