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Title: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BattleHymn on January 07, 2016, 08:23:15 PM
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Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:37 PM
Star Member raccoon (24,080 posts)

Would you rather have been born in a different generation?


I used to think maybe I'd rather have been in what Tom Brokaw called
"the greatest generation." (I'm a boomer.)

I like radio programs and there is something to be said for knowing what is expected of you. I mean, knowing traditional sex roles, etc.

OTOH, incredible sexism, racism, and no air conditioning. Not to mention,
IMO, lousy music. No rock music! For that alone I'm glad now I wasn't in that generation.

Screw off, you clown.  If it wasn't for the music of that era, you wouldn't have rock. 

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Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:58 PM
Star Member dixiegrrrrl (43,992 posts)
3. I used to think so...

Could have been perfectly happy living 1970's on a continuous loop
but then, would have missed out on Freddy Mercury's continued greatness
and on
computers!!!

Now, being born in a different country.....THERE's something to think about.

What is stopping you from leaving this one?  Pack your shit up and leave. 



Oh, what's that you say?  The places you want to go to have tight immigration laws?  They don't want you?  Well, imagine that. 

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Thu Jan 7, 2016, 06:47 PM
ghostsinthemachine (827 posts)
4. I wish I was 10 years older

Then I could have been closer to the changes during the 60's. By the time I got to age, the Summer of Love, Woodstock all of it was in the rearview mirror.

"I was too young to cash in on all the rampant drug use of the time."

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Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:07 PM
Star Member MrScorpio (64,006 posts)
5. Actually, not really

I only wish that I had put a premium on living a healthier lifestyle at an earlier age


Getting old sucks.

Having a pineapple for a head sucks even more.

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Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:16 PM
noamnety (19,332 posts)
6. No nonononono

The draft. No. Just no.

Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: DLR Pyro on January 07, 2016, 08:38:37 PM
DUmmy racoon, the greatest generation was the antithesis of everything you losers believe in.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BattleHymn on January 07, 2016, 09:28:32 PM
DUmmy racoon, the greatest generation was the antithesis of everything you losers believe in.

All of my grandparents were of that generation.  Man, do I miss them.  All of them.



That generation would have ground up, sifted, and then pulverized the raccoon primitive into dust.   
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: franksolich on January 08, 2016, 01:55:52 AM
Well, now.....

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MrScorpio (64,006 posts)    Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:07 PM

5. Actually, not really

I only wish that I had put a premium on living a healthier lifestyle at an earlier age

Getting old sucks.

It's no fun, especially if one's not that old, but Lamond has to think about something.

How much of his difficulties handling "old" age have to do with his won't-let-go Hate, rage, anger, and arrogance?

Maybe he'd find it easier going if he were more mellow, a nicer person.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: SVPete on January 08, 2016, 08:22:09 AM
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Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:37 PM
Star Member raccoon (24,080 posts)

Would you rather have been born in a different generation?


I used to think maybe I'd rather have been in what Tom Brokaw called
"the greatest generation." (I'm a boomer.)

I like radio programs and there is something to be said for knowing what is expected of you. I mean, knowing traditional sex roles, etc.

OTOH, incredible sexism, racism, and no air conditioning. Not to mention,
IMO, lousy music. No rock music! For that alone I'm glad now I wasn't in that generation.

Hey ignoramus! Willis Carrier invented modern A/C in 1902! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_Corporation) And dunno about your part of the US, but my parents went to "integrated" schools in the 191xs-193xs - try acknowledging the complexity of reality!

Lousy music? Really? Is that why Ellington's "Take the A Train" is among the most recognizable songs of the 20th Century? Like drum solos? Check out "Sing, Sing, Sing"! Is there anything in modern pop music that is 1/4 as beautiful as some of Glen Miller's or Tommy Dorsey's music? Talk about narrow, impoverished taste in music!

BTW, I grew up in the 1960s. Nothing idyllic in 1960s reality! Not a few of my classmates destroyed their lives through recreational chemicals and other kinds of stupid life choices. Like 1960s music? How many 1960s rock musicians killed themselves with recreational chemicals and other kinds of stupidity?! Wanna talk about the Anti-War Movement? Talk about it with Vietnamese people who were forced to immigrate to the US - what they escaped and what some of their family members did not escape! Talk about it with Cambodians whose family members didn't make it to the US! I have, though I never was stupid enough to idolize the Anti-War Movement!
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: Duke Nukum on January 08, 2016, 10:06:49 AM
It doesn't really matter what generation a DUmmie is born into since they have their internal radar set on Misery.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on January 08, 2016, 10:22:52 AM
DUmmies discussing living in an alternative reality. They already live in one.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: I_B_Perky on January 08, 2016, 04:46:09 PM

Lousy music? Really?  Is that why Ellington's "Take the A Train" is among the most recognizable songs of the 20th Century? Like drum solos? Check out "Sing, Sing, Sing"! Is there anything in modern pop music that is 1/4 as beautiful as some of Glen Miller's or Tommy Dorsey's music? Talk about narrow, impoverished taste in music!

BTW, I grew up in the 1960s. Nothing idyllic in 1960s reality! Not a few of my classmates destroyed their lives through recreational chemicals and other kinds of stupid life choices. Like 1960s music? How many 1960s rock musicians killed themselves with recreational chemicals and other kinds of stupidity?! Wanna talk about the Anti-War Movement? Talk about it with Vietnamese people who were forced to immigrate to the US - what they escaped and what some of their family members did not escape! Talk about it with Cambodians whose family members didn't make it to the US! I have, though I never was stupid enough to idolize the Anti-War Movement![/i][/b]

The classics of every genre of music never die. They are masterpieces of art painted on a canvas of time. 

Excellent post, SVP. H5!!!    :cheersmate:
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BattleHymn on January 08, 2016, 04:58:49 PM
The classics of every genre of music never die. They are masterpieces of art painted on a canvas of time. 

Excellent post, SVP. H5!!!    :cheersmate:

Yeah, what Perky said.

 For lurking primitives:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb2w2m1JmCY[/youtube]


This is the extended 12-minute version of "Sing, Sing, Sing", from the Carnegie Hall concert.  Fantastic listening, especially beyond the 3:45 mark:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NigiwMtWE0[/youtube]

Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: thundley4 on January 08, 2016, 05:15:12 PM
The classics of every genre of music never die. They are masterpieces of art painted on a canvas of time. 

Excellent post, SVP. H5!!!    :cheersmate:

I hope that doesn't apply to rap noise.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: I_B_Perky on January 08, 2016, 07:12:25 PM
I hope that doesn't apply to rap noise.

 I said "every genre of music".   As far as I am concerned rap is nothing more than some fool reciting a bad poem with a beat in the background interspersed by some chimpanzees  attempting to elicit some noise out of musical instruments. 

In other words... not music.   :tongue:
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on January 08, 2016, 07:18:31 PM
The classics of every genre of music never die. They are masterpieces of art painted on a canvas of time. 

Excellent post, SVP. H5!!!    :cheersmate:

Give me the big band era. Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw. Man, THAT was music.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 08, 2016, 08:11:59 PM
I said "every genre of music".   As far as I am concerned rap is nothing more than some fool reciting a bad poem with a beat in the background interspersed by some chimpanzees  attempting to elicit some noise out of musical instruments. 

In other words... not music.   :tongue:

Remember something:  You can't spell crap without rap. :whistling: :-)
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: SVPete on January 08, 2016, 08:15:41 PM
Thanks I_B_P and BH! One good spin deserves another (and speaking of Artie Shaw ...):

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28r0pEU9cn8[/youtube]
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: SVPete on January 08, 2016, 08:43:52 PM
Well, I got this for something on FB, but

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl-ZIt0p4xs[/youtube]
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BattleHymn on January 08, 2016, 08:51:00 PM
Well, I got this for something on FB, but

Now that is smooth, sir.  Excellent choice. 
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: Rebel on January 08, 2016, 09:44:31 PM
70's and above. None of these special snowflake, mentally-retarded ****ing rejects could live in any decade earlier than that.

and that's 1970's.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BattleHymn on January 08, 2016, 09:57:20 PM
I said "every genre of music".   As far as I am concerned rap is nothing more than some fool reciting a bad poem with a beat in the background interspersed by some chimpanzees  attempting to elicit some noise out of musical instruments. 

In other words... not music.   :tongue:

You mean like this?? 

[youtube]http://youtu.be/bMh39-cqtkM[/youtube]

Come'on, Perky, click it!  It's only 1:43 long!   :-) :popcorn:
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: I_B_Perky on January 08, 2016, 10:07:53 PM
You mean like this?? 

[youtube]http://youtu.be/bMh39-cqtkM[/youtube]

Come'on, Perky, click it!  It's only 1:43 long!   :-) :popcorn:

Well that is 20 seconds of my life I'll never get back.   :rant:

So where did they get the sumo wrestler?  I thought they were all Japanese?     :shrug:
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BattleHymn on January 08, 2016, 11:19:15 PM
Well that is 20 seconds of my life I'll never get back.   :rant:

So where did they get the sumo wrestler?  I thought they were all Japanese?     :shrug:

Don't ask me.  I'm still trying to figure out the gas cylinder.   :rotf:
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: SVPete on January 09, 2016, 07:39:41 AM
You mean like this?? 

(Video link deleted in the interest of good taste)

Come'on, Perky, click it!  It's only 1:43 long!   :-) :popcorn:

Good Lord! I don't like rap, at all, but that was horribly bad (= badly done).

The dude in the white T-shirt is twice the man I am (emphasis in twice), and I'm not skinny, And that shirtless beached cetacean is about four times the man I am! The latter probably had to do a nitro tab after the "exertion" of doing that video. At least Napoleon XIV could be understood, one wasn't afraid to, and was funny.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: SVPete on January 09, 2016, 07:48:36 AM
OK, I have to admit having undersold the 60s some:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SouQRWXht4[/youtube]

and

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV5lkM6pJB8[/youtube]
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: franksolich on January 09, 2016, 08:00:22 AM
Late 1960s, early 1970s, I guess?

https://youtu.be/Lq0fUa0vW_E

It's awesome, utterly awesome, wonderfully awesome.

Of course, that's the judgement of a deaf person (really and truly), remember, so don't take my word for it.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: SVPete on January 09, 2016, 08:30:49 AM
Late 1960s, early 1970s, I guess?

https://youtu.be/Lq0fUa0vW_E

It's awesome, utterly awesome, wonderfully awesome.

Of course, that's the judgement of a deaf person (really and truly), remember, so don't take my word for it.

He released it in 1957, but I'm sure it was a concert staple for about as long as he did concerts. He was one of at least a couple of musicians whose lives were probably, literally, saved by becoming a Christian believer:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPCuGheAzeM[/quote]

It's not exactly the 60s song for which he's best known, but here's another 60s musician whose life was probably similarly saved:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5q-1KMIRAo[/youtube]

Barry's 80 and still around, so he's not yet as "high" as he's going to get ("If you know what I mean").
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: thundley4 on January 09, 2016, 07:25:16 PM
Gotta throw this Johnny Cash song in here.

[youtube]www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTCS6aWRSc[/youtube]
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: Big Dog on January 09, 2016, 08:47:57 PM
You mean like this?? 

[youtube]http://youtu.be/bMh39-cqtkM[/youtube]

Come'on, Perky, click it!  It's only 1:43 long!   :-) :popcorn:

Perky made it 20 seconds, but I had to bail out at 18.

What was up with the hand motion? Shooting craps, churning butter, masturbating?
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: Mr Mannn on January 09, 2016, 09:29:08 PM
You mean like this?? 

[youtube]http://youtu.be/bMh39-cqtkM[/youtube]

Come'on, Perky, click it!  It's only 1:43 long!   :-) :popcorn:
Oh. Need eye bleach after that half naked obese guy started dancing.
I would BS you but you might just laugh and post more videos.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BattleHymn on January 09, 2016, 09:49:27 PM
Oh. Need eye bleach after that half naked obese guy started dancing.
I would BS you but you might just laugh and post more videos.

You'd be correct.  :tongue: :rotf:

Since I see there's a couple of lurking primitives in here and we've drifted to Johnny Cash, I snapped a shot of my most recent Cash acquisition, picked up for under twenty-five cents, so the Ebay primitives can drool a little on their keyboards:

(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o528/dummieland/Sun232_zpsjebm39tc.jpg)
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BattleHymn on January 09, 2016, 09:52:21 PM
What was up with the hand motion? Shooting craps, churning butter, masturbating?

Yes.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: franksolich on January 09, 2016, 10:21:36 PM
Since I see there's a couple of lurking primitives in here and we've drifted to Johnny Cash, I snapped a shot of my most recent Cash acquisition, picked up for under twenty-five cents, so the Ebay primitives can drool a little on their keyboards:

Remember, I'm no music critic, my exposure to the thing being rather, uh, severely limited, if non-existent at times.

Anyway, did Johnny Cash do anything as awesome as "I Walk the Line"?  It seems to me that'd be hard to top.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BattleHymn on January 09, 2016, 10:26:03 PM
Remember, I'm no music critic, my exposure to the thing being rather, uh, severely limited, if non-existent at times.

Anyway, did Johnny Cash do anything as awesome as "I Walk the Line"?  It seems to me that'd be hard to top.

What did you enjoy the most about " Walk The Line"?  The rhythm?  If I knew what you "heard" about it that you liked so much, I or someone else here might be able to suggest something else of his. 

Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: franksolich on January 09, 2016, 10:34:57 PM
What did you enjoy the most about " Walk The Line"?  The rhythm?  If I knew what you "heard" about it that you liked so much, I or someone else here might be able to suggest something else of his.

Yeah, I did wax rhapsodically about it, when I first heard it some several weeks, a couple of months, ago.

For those who aren't familiar with my case, franksolich is deaf (born that way), but "hears" primitively via the conduction of sound through the bones, rather than from the air into the ear-drums.  Computer technology plus the creative efforts of friends recently made it possible for me "hear" better than I've ever "heard" before.  It's not perfect, and no hearing person would put up with it, but I'm delighted with it.  One takes what one can get.

As mentioned at the time, what I liked best about "I Walk the Line" is the tone, or the sense, of piston-rods on a railway steam locomotive moving back and forth in a steady rhythm.....a movement which incidentally matches the theme behind the piece, steady, resolute.

I find I prefer, generally, an understated repetitive grinding sound, which is why I usually stick with ancient and medieval music, or music played using simple instruments.

Don't laugh, but for me, this is the epitome, the best music an possibly be:

https://youtu.be/w3QJQwdfZ7M
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BattleHymn on January 09, 2016, 10:45:36 PM
Don't laugh, but for me, this is the epitome, the best music an possibly be:

I see what you mean.  I'm glad you shared that, since it gives me an idea of what you "hear".   

Cash actually sung a lot of train ballads, and as such, so many his songs have that rhythmic pulsing that sounds like, well, train wheels clacking down a track.  "Orange Blossom Special", "Hey, Porter", "Johnny Yuma", and "Don't Take Your Guns To Town" would be my recommendations, if you are so inclined to pursue them. 

It was very serendipitous of you to land on his music, of all there is out there to hear, since it works so well for you.
Title: Re: primitives daydream about being born in a different decade
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 10, 2016, 05:41:02 AM
I see what you mean.  I'm glad you shared that, since it gives me an idea of what you "hear".   

Cash actually sung a lot of train ballads, and as such, so many his songs have that rhythmic pulsing that sounds like, well, train wheels clacking down a track.  "Orange Blossom Special", "Hey, Porter", "Johnny Yuma", and "Don't Take Your Guns To Town" would be my recommendations, if you are so inclined to pursue them. 

It was very serendipitous of you to land on his music, of all there is out there to hear, since it works so well for you.

There's a box set of Cash's stuff that exists.  I think I have it in my music collection.  I'll look for it.

Which reminds me--I need to get the latest Springsteen box set.  I can't stand the guy's politics, but I love his music.