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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 23, 2015, 09:03:39 AM
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GeeNeeUs (26 posts)
Is Chipotle being Switboated by Big Food?
OK, we are witnessing an ongoing sewer gush of attacks on Chipotle for alleged food safety issues. This current wave of attacks follows a documented series of blowback attacks from Big Food, Big Chem, Big Ag and Big GMO in their unholy industrial-chemical alliance. They fear and disdain Chipotle because the chain features clean food, and has forthrightly, and with wit, attacked the Industrial Chemical Diet Financial Complex.
Could it be that rather than Chipotle suddenly getting super sloppy with sanitation all over kingdom come - here, there and everywhere - they are instead the victims of a Swiftboating attack by an undercover unholy alliance of Big Food, Big Chem, Big Ag and Big GMO? In my view, they have the means, the motive, and the opportunity. And they already have a skanky track record of scuzzy, Republican-like corporate maneuvers.
Discuss among yourselves.
Disclaimer: I have no skin in this debate. I've eaten at Chipotle a number of times over the years, but I'm not an employee, a investor, or a Black-Ops Corporate Counter Mole, or whatever. I'm just a guy who values good health based on a good, clean diet and who has seen up close and personal the wholesale ravages that can come when people subsist on chemically drenched highly processed corporate rations.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027469857
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attacked the Industrial Chemical Diet Financial Complex.
WTF????????????????
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They fear and disdain Chipotle because the chain features clean food
...that gives you life threatening sh!ts.
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...that gives you life threatening sh!ts.
Out here, we call it Montezuma's Revenge.
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Out here, we call it Montezuma's Revenge.
Just don't cough or sneeze.
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NobodyHere (1,096 posts)
1. What is "switboated"?
GeeNeeUs (27 posts)
9. An example: Jeb Bush defends McCain, but supported Swift Boat attacks on Kerry
In which Republicans not only get to be deceitful, vicious, and hypocritical - It's a perfected Republican Corporate Trifecta strategy.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/20/politics/jeb-bush-swift-boat-veterans/
Dumb ass's ass is too dumb to know when he's being mocked.
darkangel218 (13,396 posts)
3. Of course they are being targeted by big Agra and Monsanto.
It's a no brainer.
^ Unintentionally insightful
NJCher (18,973 posts)
4. I ran across a vitriolic attack on them at Forbes
When I read it, I said "this is way, way over the top, and furthermore, it doesn't smell right." I thought that because it had the air of one of those right wing "think tank" pieces. I also made a mental note to watch out for other pieces along this line. So often one can tell it's a hit job (think Dr. Sanjay Gupta) because of the similarity of talking points.
Too bad it's the end of the term. This would make an interesting analysis for a writing and research class, critical thinking section.
CBGLuthier (11,898 posts)
5. No.
darkangel218 (13,396 posts)
8. Prove it.
Cal Carpenter (3,562 posts)
10. There are 1,700 Chipotle locations
How are they not 'big food'? Just because they use a little greenwashing and make people feel a little better about their fast food choices?
ETA: the food borne outbreak is a symptom of being 'big food'. So is the fact that the CEO makes 1500 times what their workers do.
NJCher (18,973 posts)
18. what they're doing is dangerous to the Monsanto types
because other fast food outlets are changing their practices. Look at what McDonald's is doing:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/05/business/mcdonalds-moving-to-antibiotic-free-chicken.html?_r=0
The fact is that the world of food is changing, and fast food restaurants are having to change their practices to keep up. This is leaving a lot of suppliers out in the cold.
Why wouldn't they plant e coli at various locations around the Chipotle network of restaurants? It would be so easy. And it creates a continuing PR nightmare. We'll teach you! We'll teach you to lower salt, cut out GMOs, and how dare you utter the word "tofu!"
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Good God,and these people wander about without leashes.
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Ms. Vanderbilt-Astor, the NJCher primitive, is on the thread, but she's just being silly, so no point.
Cal Carpenter (3,562 posts) Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:05 AM
10. There are 1,700 Chipotle locations
How are they not 'big food'? Just because they use a little greenwashing and make people feel a little better about their fast food choices?
ETA: the food borne outbreak is a symptom of being 'big food'. So is the fact that the CEO makes 1500 times what their workers do.
Brickbat (18,084 posts) Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:07 AM
12. ^^ This.
marmar (68,977 posts) Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:08 AM
13. ^ This
NuclearDem (14,441 posts) Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:11 AM
17. This.
Chipotle is fast food and big food.
Brickbat (18,084 posts) Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:09 AM
15. Poor, poor Chipotle.
It could solve these problems by dropping its hope-it-goes-away approach to the issue.
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Good God,and these people wander about without leashes.
Not all of them, but generally there's a gimp suit and ball gag involved.
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WTF????????????????
PGR, you missed the other low hanging "WTF ?".
.....when people subsist on chemically drenched highly processed corporate rations.
I'll see your 15 ?, and raise 2 ?.
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PGR, you missed the other low hanging "WTF ?".
I'll see your 15 ?, and raise 2 ?.
I'm only good for one WTF a day. I usually follow that up with "Holy sh*t" or some other witty retort.
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Good God,and these people wander about without leashes.
And their not even house broken.
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NobodyHere (1,096 posts)
1. What is "switboated"?
Ahem..
Swiftboated
Verb
To expose a politician's lie about their military service or other actions/activities by said politician's fellow soldiers or other independent observers, who were eyewitnesses to what actually happened.
"hitlery was once again swiftboated on Benghazi jut as she was on dodging gun shots in Beirut."
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Everything's always got to be some kind of conspiracy for them, especially if they can make the villain in it some industry whose title they have start with "Big." Yet, amusingly enough, they have no problem with "Big Government."
"Could it be that rather than Chipotle suddenly getting super sloppy with sanitation all over kingdom come - here, there and everywhere - they are instead the victims of a Swiftboating attack by an undercover unholy alliance of Big Food, Big Chem, Big Ag and Big GMO?"
You're forgetting Possibility #3:
Chipotle has always been like this, their claims about how their foods are so "Clean" and healthy are just for PR to get hippy health- food nuts like the DUmmies to buy their food (And ignore the explosive diarrhea it then gives them), they're only just now getting exposed for unsanitary practices they've always had. But, wait, that would involve blaming a company the Left loves, so they'll just claim that evil corporate boogeymen are framing them for unsanitary practices and customers coming down with food- related illnesses.
Cal Carpenter will probably be TS'd for pointing out that Chipotle is as much a part of "Big food" as any of the other companies.
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A conspiracy to attack dozens of locations across multiple states? Without numerous leaks and large amounts of evidence? A conspiracy on that scale would involve hundreds or thousands of people - many of them sloppy and loose-lipped. Calling that conspiracy theory absurd would be an insult to absurdity!
My opinion, pending better and more complete information, is that Chipotle sacrificed their customers on food conspiracy-theorists' and Luddites' altar to ward off those groups' bogeymen, More plainly, by eschewing major producers and processors - so as to get organic, "locally sourced", non-GMO, etc. ingredients - Chipotle went with more marginal sources, and customers paid the price. A secondary possibility (i.e. in addition to, not instead of) is that Chipotle stores hired a lot of people recently in response to an anticipated volume increase due to holiday shoppers eating out instead of at home, and some stores' food handling training was poor (or not followed).
There's a reason "Big Food", "Big Ag", and the other bogeymen don't want to kill off people who use their products. Killing today's customers mean fewer and fewer customers in months, years, and decades to come.
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My opinion, pending better and more complete information, is that Chipotle sacrificed their customers on food conspiracy-theorists' and Luddites' altar to ward off those groups' bogeymen, More plainly, by eschewing major producers and processors - so as to get organic, "locally sourced", non-GMO, etc. ingredients - Chipotle went with more marginal sources, and customers paid the price.
Mexican migrant workers pooping and peeing in the fields they work. That's caused outbreaks before.
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More plainly, by eschewing major producers and processors - so as to get organic, "locally sourced", non-GMO,
But at the altar of political correctness and "save da earf", they won't go back to safe options. So, Chipotle customers, and all of us really, are at the mercy of "local" products subject to whoever had to take a dump or a leak in the fields they walk and pick.
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The only conspiracy is rabbits. Rabbits are behind those conspiracies to destroy humanity.
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The only conspiracy is rabbits. Rabbits are behind those conspiracies to destroy humanity.
And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'
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I've been eating at Chipotle, both before and after the problems they've had back east (I'm in California), and have had no intestinal problems whatsoever. I enjoy the product they produce and will continue to do so.
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Big Food ?
Do the Dummies know that an early investor in Chipotle was McDonald's ? McD's had something like a 90% stake in the company that they divested sometime around 2006.
So, erm.. Chipotle <<IS>> "big food".
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Mexican migrant workers pooping and peeing in the fields they work. That's caused outbreaks before.
Several years ago an e coli outbreak was traced to produce (possibly organic) where cows were being pastured in an adjacent field and wild pigs tracked the cow manure into the produce field.
Field workers are, by law, provided with portacans, but using them rather than taking a dump where they are standing is another issue.
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I've been eating at Chipotle, both before and after the problems they've had back east (I'm in California), and have had no intestinal problems whatsoever. I enjoy the product they produce and will continue to do so.
There've been problems at Chipotle stores in WA and OR as well. But I've not avoided Chipotle, either.