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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on December 13, 2015, 05:34:05 PM
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The left is getting riled up over this.
Why do liberals have such disdain for Ayn Rand?
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Carlos W Bush (1,194 posts)
Why do liberals have such disdain for Ayn Rand?
When I read her books, the message I get is that man is heroic and that civilization is at it's best when all are free to achieve greatness without unnecessary encumbrances. Cures for diseases, new and better energy sources, arts and sciences advances, etc. all come about when people know that they will be fairly rewarded for the contributions they make in their field of expertise, and allowed to enjoy the fruits of their labor as they so choose.
She was an idealist who abhorred corruption in government and business, nationalism, fascism, and dictatorship. She believed that it is in all of us to be great. So I ask, why such bitter hatred from the left?
steelysunshine (4,379 posts)
1. I hated her even before I knew her politics
She is a horrible writer. Speeches shouldn't be a substitute for action or showing what is going on.
Woman On Fire (479 posts)
3. She was a hypocritical, selfish dick. nt
Billy Jingo (351 posts)
6. Ayn Rand is the Oher Mother
Her philosophy is literally infantile. By that I mean it's the philosophy of infants.
Leftism is infantile.
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Woman On Fire (479 posts)
3. She was a hypocritical, selfish dick. nt
That describes Mikey the hutt Moore and Noam Chomsky perfectly.
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The well known ....."I hated her before I knew her." Shtick. Where have we seen this before? :)
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What?! They lack the self-awareness and/or honesty to say what bugs them about Ayn Rand? It's her condemnation of the welfare state. It's her condemnation of government micro-intruding in every minute detail of business. It's her prophecy (a word she might have hated), in Atlas Shrugged of where all those things lead. It's the slowly dawning realization - fraught with loathing and terror - that her prophecy is coming true in the US and Western EuroLand.
I will give steelysunshine's comment this much credit. Rand's writing was pedantic and preachy; "Show, not tell," is sound advice for fiction writing.
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Her philosophy is literally infantile. By that I mean it's the philosophy of infants.
Do you organisms even read the slop you post or, do you figure you have to communicate at a flash card level?
:thatsright:
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What?! They lack the self-awareness and/or honesty to say what bugs them about Ayn Rand? It's her condemnation of the welfare state. It's her condemnation of government micro-intruding in every minute detail of business. It's her prophecy (a word she might have hated), in Atlas Shrugged of where all those things lead. It's the slowly dawning realization - fraught with loathing and terror - that her prophecy is coming true in the US and Western EuroLand.
I will give steelysunshine's comment this much credit. Rand's writing was pedantic and preachy; "Show, not tell," is sound advice for fiction writing.
They can't. All they know is: No free shit bad. Anything that does not bring free shit? Bad.
Freeeeeee................... shiiiiiiiitttttt...................
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That describes Mikey the hutt Moore and Noam Chomsky perfectly.
Compared to Moore, Chomsky is a paragon of virtue and truth.
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The DUmmies have enough self-awareness to recognize themselves as the villains, so they hate her for it.
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The DUmmies have enough self-awareness to recognize themselves as the villains, so they hate her for it.
Excellent point and H-5 issued. When written, her parasitic-people characters may have seemed to be implausible, but they seem rather realistic nowadays.
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Woman On Fire (479 posts)
3. She was a hypocritical, selfish dick. nt
That describes Mikey the hutt Moore and Noam Chomsky perfectly.
Pretty much describes all progressives, all for redistribution of the wealth so long as it is not their wealth being redistributed.
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Excellent point and H-5 issued. When written, her parasitic-people characters may have seemed to be implausible, but they seem rather realistic nowadays.
I have had proglodyte callers agree with the Equalization of Opportunity Bill and Anti-Dog-Eat-Dog Rule. Nobody has agreed with Directive 10-289... yet.
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steelysunshine (4,379 posts)
1. I hated her even before I knew her politics
She is a horrible writer. Speeches shouldn't be a substitute for action or showing what is going on.
Speeches are all Clinnochio and owebuma were about.
It's embedded in the lib psyche that all problems in the world can be solved with speeches, "raising awareness" and #tweeting.
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Speeches are all Clinnochio and owebuma were about.
It's embedded in the lib psyche that all problems in the world can be solved with speeches, "raising awareness" and #tweeting.
Hypocritical DUmmies listen to their Lightbringer flap his dick ticklers for hours. Like one of those machines that imitates the ocean, it soothes them.
Their other problem with Ayn Rand (aside from recognizing themselves as the villains) is that her books require concentration- a quality which they lack.