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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on December 11, 2015, 07:15:55 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027440730
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:29 AM
Star Member malaise (135,293 posts)
So one of the weapons used in the Paris massacre came
from Delray Beach, Florida - M92. Keep it up NRA and gun goons. You're the real ****ing terrorists.
Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:36 AM
Star Member Duckhunter935 (10,720 posts)
1. link and
where did the rest come from?
Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #1)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:41 AM
Star Member malaise (135,293 posts)
2. You research your question
http://www.wpbf.com/news/gun-used-by-islamic-militants-in-the-paris-attacks-linked-to-delray-beach/36898746
For the record nearly every weapon used in the non-stop slaughter of people in Jamaica comes from the US - because there is no attempt to prevent the export of death. Governments around the globe are forced to prevent drugs entering the US while US guns flood the globe.
Wake the fugg up!
The beginning of the linked article.
DELRAY BEACH, Fla. —One of the guns linked to Islamic militants in the Paris attacks that killed 130 people was exported to the United States in 2013, the head of a Serbian arms factory said Thursday.
Milojko Brzakovic of the Zastava arms factory told The Associated Press that the M92 semi-automatic pistol's serial number matched one his company delivered to an American online arms dealer in May 2013.
It was not clear how the gun got back to Europe
Was that too hard to understand you retarded scrunt?
Response to malaise (Reply #2)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:44 AM
Star Member cwydro (20,855 posts)
4. Who is slaughtering people in Jamaica?
Other Jamaicans?
:rotf: :rotf:
Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 07:18 AM
TeddyR (735 posts)
7. Actually
At least 7 of them came from Serbia. It appears that one made its way from Serbia, where it was manufactured, to the US, where it was sold and then exported - perhaps illegally, perhaps not - to Europe. How is that the NRA's fault?
You don`t belong Teddy.
Your days are numbered.
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I haven't yet submitted my DOTY slate. I may have to rethink it. :whistling:
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The obligatory read for malice, who's part of the 1% down there:
Some areas of Jamaica, particularly cities such as Kingston, Montego Bay and Spanish Town, experience high levels of crime and violence. Jamaica has had one of the highest murder rates in the world for many years, according to United Nations estimates.
In 2005, Jamaica had 1674 murders for a murder rate of 58 per 100,000 people. That year, Jamaica had the highest murder rate in the world. In November 2008, the Jamaican Parliament voted to retain the death penalty, which is performed by hanging.
There were 1,682 reported murders in 2009 and 1,428 in 2010. Since 2011 the murder rate has continued to fall following the downward trend started in 2010, with increases in police patrols, curfews and more effective anti-gang activities. In 2012, the Ministry of National Security reported a 30 percent decrease in murders. Many of the murders in Jamaica are connected to organized crime in the country's urban centers; and most of this organized crime involves the illegal drug trade.
^^^a "decrease" of course being a world-wide phenomenon.....including the United States.
The U.S. Department of State reported that brutality with homosexuals, mainly by private citizens, was widespread in 2008. Homosexuality per se is not illegal in Jamaica; however the Offenses Against the Person Act criminalizes buggery (anal sex) as well as "acts of gross indecency" between men. Many Jamaicans are hostile toward LGBT and intersex people, and several mob attacks against gay people have been reported. International human rights groups, the local LGBT rights organization, Jamaica Forum for Lesbians All-Sexual and Gays (JFLAG) and many Jamaicans have called on the government to take measures to protect LGBT people, including repealing the buggery law.
Jamaican posses, often referred to simply as posses, are a loose coalition of gangs, based predominantly in Kingston, London, New York City and Toronto, first being involved in drugs and arms trafficking in the early 1980s. It is widely claimed that the Jamaican posses are affiliated with Jamaican political parties, such as the Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) and the People's National Party (PNP).
The JLP posses dominate the west and south of Kingston and other smaller towns and the PNP posses are mainly found in the eastern and central side and there are a few that state they are not allied to either political party. These are often in the northern slums of downtown Kingston. In the United Kingdom, these Jamaican gangsters would be referred to as Yardies in reference to people who lived in "government yards" in the aftermath of Hurricane Charlie, which hit Jamaica in 1951. They are strongly populated in London and are specifically known to have occupied and operate in Brixton, Harlesden, Tottenham and Hackney, among other areas.
Jamaican Posse members are known for gun battles with the police and drive-by shootings in disputes with rival gangs over drug turf. Posse members are known for ritualized murders of members who "rip off" profits on drugs.
Posse members have little regard for public safety or human life. As part of their code, extreme violence is directed at anyone they feel has disrespected them or is in their way. Once in prison, however, their violence is savage but not regular. The alleged head of the One Order Gang, Andrew 'Bun Man' Hope, was murdered in Spanish Town on 8 February 2006, which sparked a riot the following day.
All from the primitives' favorite source, wikipedia.
malice needs to pay more attention to her own people, her own country.
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I haven't yet submitted my DOTY slate. I may have to rethink it. :whistling:
By all means, do.
malice is a good choice, an excellent choice.
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For the record nearly every weapon used in the non-stop slaughter of people in Jamaica comes from the US - because there is no attempt to prevent the export of death. Governments around the globe are forced to prevent drugs entering the US while US guns flood the globe.
Is there any attempt to ban the import of weapons to Jamaica? Is gun ownership legal? Don't blame the US for the crimes committed by your own people.
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Just in the general case, without the full paper trail, it is a leap to say that just because the papers show it was exported to a US distributor does not necessarily mean it ever actually left the European continent. Theft and diversion in shipping occurs all the time, worldwide, with paperwork fabricated to cover it, even in the US and Europe (It's just more limited to controlled, high-dollar, or hard-to-obtain items in the civilized world). It's much easier to steal stuff in transit than to let it get where it's going and then take the risk of possibly-multiple different customs contraband inspections to stage it back to where it came from.
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Another that can`t read.
marble falls (8,098 posts)
10. You mean other than cheerleading the ownership with no restriction of this shit....
not a thing. Other than claiming everybody ought to own one because everyone else owns one? Not a thing. Other than lobbying Congress to keep the loopholes open so that anyone can buy one in a Texas gun show without any sort of filtering for the mentally ill, criminal or extreme? Not a thing.
They don't have to hand a specific weapon to a specific bad actor be morally responsible. They are extremist and they encourage extremism. The lack of controls they lobby for in opposition of the will of the majority of this nation facilitates terrorism foreign and domestic.
And it boomerangs here in the US. Every time some domestic terrorist shoots up an abortion clinic or school, gun sales goes up and we have NRA paid whackos in Congress proposing more extreme gun "freedoms" like arming teachers, allowing students to pack n campus and more guns get sold to both the fearful and the extreme.
Don't you think "American" gunman shadowing Muslim US citizens in this country is terrorism? Don't you think the gun laws in this country lobbied for by the NRA facilitated that Serbian made AK47 bought in Miami make its way into the terrorist hands that used it in France?
The only two reasons a Serbian AK47 purchased in Paris won't be used for terrorism here in the US is that French law won't allow for the purchase in France and NRA lobbied laws make it very easy to buy it here regardless of the availability of AKs in France.
Yes, the NRA supports and abets terrorism. Here and elsewhere: specifically Paris.
The article again.
Milojko Brzakovic of the Zastava arms factory told The Associated Press that the M92 semi-automatic pistol's serial number matched one his company delivered to an American online arms dealer in May 2013.
It was not clear how the gun got back to Europe.
At least seven of the weapons used or discovered after the Nov. 13 attacks in Paris have been identified as being produced by the Serbian factory located in Kragujevac, in central Serbia. Most were manufactured before Yugoslavia broke up in a civil war in the 1990s and most of those are modified versions of the Soviet AK-47, or Kalashnikov.
These mutants are just plain stupid.
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Poop kashitle, ì forgot where I placed that moronic scrut on my ballot, :bawl:
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By all means, do.
malice is a good choice, an excellent choice.
Ralph has my slate. It went before I thought to copy it, to paste it to the DOTY thread.
Malice made my slate, but in the bottom half.
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I used to be a member of a travel club, one year we went to Jamaica and stayed at the RIU in Ocho Rios. Our flight landed in Montego Bay and we were picked up by a deuce and a half with fording equipment for the ride over. The room that me and the ex stayed in had great view of the gulf but it also looked out over Ocho Rios. It was kind of an odd sensation watching those folkes wake up in their tin shacks, put on their uniforms and trudge in to work at the resort.
Did a day trip into town which stopped at the local tourist trap. It went well until someone flashed some american money, then it felt like we might have to shoot our way out.
Another day I went for a morning swim, I was paddling around and saw something that looked like a jellyfish floating around. I cautiously swam closer, of course I didn't want to get stung by a jellyfish right? Turns out it was a golf ball size chunk of weed in saran wrap!
Interesting place, I'd recommend staying on the reservation but if you must go into town, travel in large groups.
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I used to be a member of a travel club, one year we went to Jamaica and stayed at the RIU in Ocho Rios. Our flight landed in Montego Bay and we were picked up by a deuce and a half with fording equipment for the ride over. The room that me and the ex stayed in had great view of the gulf but it also looked out over Ocho Rios. It was kind of an odd sensation watching those folkes wake up in their tin shacks, put on their uniforms and trudge in to work at the resort.
Did a day trip into town which stopped at the local tourist trap. It went well until someone flashed some american money, then it felt like we might have to shoot our way out.
Another day I went for a morning swim, I was paddling around and saw something that looked like a jellyfish floating around. I cautiously swam closer, of course I didn't want to get stung by a jellyfish right? Turns out it was a golf ball size chunk of weed in saran wrap!
Interesting place, I'd recommend staying on the reservation but if you must go into town, travel in large groups.
Ex wife & I did a similar trip about 12 years ago. Flew into Montego Bay & stayed at an all inclusive in Ocho Rios. It was beautiful, but if you get 10 feet off the resort, the Jamaican natives are all over to beg for American money.
Hell, that van ride from Montego Bay to Ocho Rios was incredibility bumpy and their roads are horrible. They stopped halfway so people could use the bathroom & order a drink. Kids were running around trying to sell us pot. Was sad to see.
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I realize mal-chick is impervious to fact and logic, but the reason Jamaican criminals get most of their guns from the US - if that actually is the case - is that the US is closer than Russia, China, or EuroLand. Mal-chick would do better to be working on getting the Jamaican government to get murderers off Jamaican streets as permanently as possible, rather than whinging about the tools they use and where they get them.
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I realize mal-chick is impervious to fact and logic, but the reason Jamaican criminals get most of their guns from the US - if that actually is the case - is that the US is closer than Russia, China, or EuroLand. Mal-chick would do better to be working on getting the Jamaican government to get murderers off Jamaican streets as permanently as possible, rather than whinging about the tools they use and where they get them.
I dunno; there's a reason malice is popular with other primitives.
If we had a more energetic drug enforcement agency, I'm sure they'd be looking into her husband's "export" business down there.
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The only two reasons a Serbian AK47 purchased in Paris won't be used for terrorism here in the US is that French law won't allow for the purchase in France and NRA lobbied laws make it very easy to buy it here regardless of the availability of AKs in France.
Wait. So if french law allowed the purchase, and nra lobbied laws didn't make it very easy to buy one here, the same ak-47s WOULD be used here for terrorism?
A frightening and disturbing glimpse into what passes for the mind, of a primitive.
(this is your brain on progressivism)
CMD
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Wait. So if french law allowed the purchase, and nra lobbied laws didn't make it very easy to buy one here, the same ak-47s WOULD be used here for terrorism?
A frightening and disturbing glimpse into what passes for the mind, of a primitive.
(this is your brain on progressivism)
CMD
Again--emoji time.
:stoner:
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The parallels between DU and Jamaica are real:
DU Jamaica
An island An island
:stoner: :stoner:
Reasonable people only go Reasonable people only go
there for entertainment there for entertainment
I could go on....
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The parallels between DU and Jamaica are real:
DU Jamaica
An island An island
:stoner: :stoner:
Reasonable people only go Reasonable people only go
there for entertainment there for entertainment
I could go on....
Awesome, the way you made that most-apt comparison.