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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on December 05, 2015, 04:29:34 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027419979
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:11 PM
Photographer (305 posts)
4,yes only 4 pictures follow
Christian Terrorists...
Why is Christian terrorism downplayed in the U.S.?
When Muslims commit violence against the innocent to further their ideological or political agenda, they are called, appropriately, “Muslim terrorists.†But when Christians do the same, they are rarely called “Christian terrorists.†Why not?
The FBI deems terrorism “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.†By that definition, Robert Lewis Dear, the North Carolina Baptist who is accused of killing three people and wounding nine in a shooting rampage last week at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs with an alleged ideological purpose, should be called a “Christian terrorist.â€
So should many others, like Eric Rudolph, the “Olympic Park Bomber†who committed a number of anti-abortion and anti-gay-motivated bombings in the 1990s which killed two people and injured over 120 others; Timothy McVeigh, the Roman Catholic who bombed the Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people and wounding more than 600; and Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian Lutheran who killed eight people in 2011 with a bomb in Oslo, then shot dead 69 participants at a youth summer camp in order to protect his country from a Muslim takeover.
But so far, I have not seen anyone in the mainstream media use the phrase “Christian terrorist†to describe a Protestant or Catholic who commits terrorism.....
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At the National Prayer Breakfast this year, President Barack Obama said, “No God condones terror.†He claimed that the Islamic State is “warping†religion: “As people of faith, we are summoned to push back against those who try to distort our religion—any religion—for their own nihilistic ends.â€
But Obama, like most Christians, is the one who is distorting his religion. In the bible, his own deity actually uses the word “terror†to describe his intentions:
“A terror from God fell upon the cities.†Genesis 35:5 NRSV
“I will send my terror in front of you.†Exodus 23:27 NRSV
“I will bring terror on you.†Leviticus 26:16 NRSV
“. . . all the great terror which Moses shewed in the sight of all Israel.†Deuteronomy 34:12 KJV
“Hide in the dust from the terror of the Lord.†Isaiah 2:105 NRSV
“The terrors of God are arrayed against me.†Job 6:4 NRSV
“I was in terror of calamity from God.†Job 31:23 NRSV
“They shall be in great terror, for God is with the company of the righteous.†Psalms 14:5 NRSV
“I will make them an object of terror and of plunder.†Ezekiel 23:46 NRSV
The God of the bible is a self-confessed terrorist.
Much more at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/freethoughtnow/why-is-christian-terrorism-downplayed-in-the-u-s/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Pan+Patheos+120215+%281%29&utm_content&spMailingID=50161757&spUserID=MTQxMDAwNzQzMTc2S0&spJobID=820393217&spReportId=ODIwMzkzMjE3S0
Boring and desperate attempt to distract. :yawn:
Now when the dirt doctor and DOTY candidate dropped in earlier he assured us there was no pro islam,anti Christian bias at the DUmp.
Response to Photographer (Original post)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:17 PM
Buzz Clik (33,485 posts)
1. Downplayed because no organization of Christians is calling for mayhem or taking credit for murder
Keep in mind that those making a huge deal of this being a "Muslim problem" are the potentially violent rightwingers who happen to be Christian.
Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #1)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:22 PM
Photographer (305 posts)
4. There's a lot of truth there
but with many off the wall evangelicals getting a lot of air time often with politicians, they damage the "brand."
Response to Photographer (Reply #4)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:25 PM
Buzz Clik (33,485 posts)
5. Agreed.
The only difference at this moment is the official call for violence by Christian sects. It's happened in the past, and it could happen again.
And it's not like Muslims as a whole are calling of a jihad against all non-Muslims.
Not only are you a stupid and ignorant coward buzzy,you are a ****ing liar.
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If there were Christian equivalents to Al Queda, Boko Harem and ISIS, they might have some foundation for the term. As there are NOT, they just fail again.
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Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:11 PM
Photographer (305 posts)
4,yes only 4 pictures follow
Christian Terrorists...
Why is Christian terrorism downplayed in the U.S.?
When Muslims commit violence against the innocent to further their ideological or political agenda, they are called, appropriately, “Muslim terrorists.†But when Christians do the same, they are rarely called “Christian terrorists.†Why not?
The FBI deems terrorism “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.†By that definition, Robert Lewis Dear, the North Carolina Baptist who is accused of killing three people and wounding nine in a shooting rampage last week at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs with an alleged ideological purpose, should be called a “Christian terrorist.â€
So should many others, like Eric Rudolph, the “Olympic Park Bomber†who committed a number of anti-abortion and anti-gay-motivated bombings in the 1990s which killed two people and injured over 120 others; Timothy McVeigh, the Roman Catholic who bombed the Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people and wounding more than 600; and Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian Lutheran who killed eight people in 2011 with a bomb in Oslo, then shot dead 69 participants at a youth summer camp in order to protect his country from a Muslim takeover.
But so far, I have not seen anyone in the mainstream media use the phrase “Christian terrorist†to describe a Protestant or Catholic who commits terrorism.....
<snip>
At the National Prayer Breakfast this year, President Barack Obama said, “No God condones terror.†He claimed that the Islamic State is “warping†religion: “As people of faith, we are summoned to push back against those who try to distort our religion—any religion—for their own nihilistic ends.â€
But Obama, like most Christians, is the one who is distorting his religion. In the bible, his own deity actually uses the word “terror†to describe his intentions:
“A terror from God fell upon the cities.†Genesis 35:5 NRSV
“I will send my terror in front of you.†Exodus 23:27 NRSV
“I will bring terror on you.†Leviticus 26:16 NRSV
“. . . all the great terror which Moses shewed in the sight of all Israel.†Deuteronomy 34:12 KJV
“Hide in the dust from the terror of the Lord.†Isaiah 2:105 NRSV
“The terrors of God are arrayed against me.†Job 6:4 NRSV
“I was in terror of calamity from God.†Job 31:23 NRSV
“They shall be in great terror, for God is with the company of the righteous.†Psalms 14:5 NRSV
“I will make them an object of terror and of plunder.†Ezekiel 23:46 NRSV
The God of the bible is a self-confessed terrorist.
Much more at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/freethoughtnow/why-is-christian-terrorism-downplayed-in-the-u-s/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Pan+Patheos+120215+%281%29&utm_content&spMailingID=50161757&spUserID=MTQxMDAwNzQzMTc2S0&spJobID=820393217&spReportId=ODIwMzkzMjE3S0
Timothy McVeigh was not motivated by religion. Anders Breivik was not a religious person.
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Timothy McVeigh was not motivated by religion. Anders Breivik was not a religious person.
C'mon man. you're busting up a perfectly good lame rant with facts. What fun is there in that?
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As usual, those who try to corrupt the word, have no correct understanding of the word.
The wisdom of man(especially libs) is foolishness to God.
The wisdom of God is foolishness to man(especially libs).
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More DU logic culled from the gutters of Facebook.
Hey Buzzy...McVeigh was Agnostic...didn't believe in Hell and said science was his religion.
And I want to know Buzzy...why you Libs always smear all Christians for the heinous acts of one peeson...but chastise those that try to blame Islam for real acts of coordinated global terrorism?
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I see once again that clik-buzz would rather castigate Christians instead of mooselimbs while continuing to ignore the pleading poor of the DUmp.
Come on, buzzy, crack open that wallet of yours, if for no other reason than to give the resident moths some fresh air. You cheap tightwad SoB.
One of these days someone is gonna request payment from your ass for those bad checks your fat lips have been writing.
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Photog's OP is a perfect example of the old saying, "A text out of context is a pretext." That's as much and more as Photog's - and the blog (s)he quoted - post deserves.
Haven't Libs & Progs recognized yet that the "Christian terrorists" meme is so moth-eaten there's no fabric left? Geesh! When they produce course catalogs from Bob Jones University or Dallas Theological Seminary or Biola University or ... with courses such as IEDs 101 or Sewing Suicide Vests 1A or Advanced Head Hacking I'll stop mocking such foolishness.
Here's an article from last spring that takes on @#$% like this head-on:
When Salon Went Hunting for Christian Terrorists… (http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2015/04/13/when-salon-went-hunting-for-christian-terrorists/)
By Robert Spencer April 13, 2015
pjmedia.com/lifestyle
Ever heard of the Army of God? Or Concerned Christians? As far as Salon and other leftist media outlets are concerned, they’re just as lethal as the Islamic State and al-Qaeda – and the only reason why you haven’t heard of them but have heard of the Islamic terror groups is because of the mainstream media’s deeply ingrained “Islamophobia.â€
If this sounds absurd, it’s only because it is. The mainstream media, especially organs like Salon that are even more leftist than the others, are always avid to exonerate Islam and establish the claim that Christianity is just as likely to incite its adherents to violence as Islam is. To try to do this, they have to resort to increasingly desperate stratagems, in an effort to convince you that these nefarious Christian terrorists are all over the place, and you would know that, except for the evil right-wing media’s constant Islamophobic ranting. So it is with Alex Henderson’s “6 modern-day Christian terrorist groups our media conveniently ignores,†which Salon reprinted from Alertnet on last Tuesday.
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Salon, nonetheless, is determined to obscure that fact and prop up some “Christian terrorist groups†that Americans ought to be as wary of as they are of the Islamic State and al-Qaeda. Yet none of these groups enjoy anything like the broad support among Christians that the Islamic State or al-Qaeda have among Muslims — have 25,000 Christians traveled from all over the world to join the Army of God? Nor does any sect of Christianity teach that Christians have a duty to wage war against and subjugate unbelievers.
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I never heard of (Eastern Lightning, a.k.a. the Church of the Almighty God) before, and it sounds very strange: with its Jesus-is-coming-back-as-a-Chinese-woman thing, it is hardly anything close to mainstream Christianity, Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant. Also, Jesus never says anything in the Gospels about beating women to death if they refuse to hand over their phone numbers.
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In reality, the Lord’s Resistance Army is funded by Sudanese jihadis, and reflects a Christian theology that is held by no Christian sect anywhere — in stark contrast to the undeniable fact that all the mainstream sects of Islam and schools of Islamic jurisprudence teach warfare against and subjugation of unbelievers.
ProgNewMedia outlets don't dredge up obscure and defunct groups because they love obscurantia. They do so because they have a narrative to support, and such obscure and defunct groups are all the support they can find. These advocates of the Christian Terrorism narrative aren't trying to be pathetic, they're merely succeeding in being pathetic.
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More DU logic culled from the gutters of Facebook.
Hey Buzzy...McVeigh was Agnostic...didn't believe in Hell and said science was his religion.
And I want to know Buzzy...why you Libs always smear all Christians for the heinous acts of one peeson...but chastise those that try to blame Islam for real acts of coordinated global terrorism?
H-5 earned & issued.
And for Buzzy's and any other DU lurker's discomfiture ... (http://cjonline.com/stories/061001/new_mcveigh.shtml#.VmRY7DZdGUk)
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The amount of vitriol these people display towards jews and Christians while Islamists murder people worldwide is more proof than I need that God exists. These people are disciples of the damned devil.
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A small problem DUmbass. Dear didn't cause any casualties at Planned Parenthood. In fact, PP has stated nobody in their building was injured by Dear. All of the casualties were at the shopping mall where Dear opened fire. Not at PP like you mouth breathing cretins keep claiming. When Dear entered the PP building, he directed his fire out of the building at LEOs instead of inside at the staff and patients within.
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A small problem DUmbass. Dear didn't cause any casualties at Planned Parenthood. In fact, PP has stated nobody in their building was injured by Dear. All of the casualties were at the shopping mall where Dear opened fire. Not at PP like you mouth breathing cretins keep claiming. When Dear entered the PP building, he directed his fire out of the building at LEOs instead of inside at the staff and patients within.
They keep repeating the lie hoping people will buy it. Simple as that.