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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on December 05, 2015, 08:19:59 AM
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Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:02 AM
Star Member boston bean (25,254 posts)
We will not live in a free society if we continue to allow gun access to anyone with a pulse.
Period.
Make your choice.
You want to live in a free, safe, open society? Well, give up some of your precious.
Cause the more guns we have the less of an open, safe, free society we will be.
Free, safe and open societies are the epitome of freedom.
Gun wielding nuts, everyone with a gun, searches, scans does not make a free and open society.
So, you want to talk about freedom, at the very minimum take this into consideration.
Freedom means abandoning rights...got it.
Stupid scrunt.
Response to boston bean (Original post)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:19 AM
GGJohn (7,936 posts)
2. I already live in a free safe society,
and I own firearms, and I'll keep them.
Response to GGJohn (Reply #2)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:27 AM
Star Member pintobean (15,492 posts)
3. But, you'll be freer if you give up some of your freedom
or something.
Response to GGJohn (Reply #2)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:27 AM
Star Member boston bean (25,254 posts)
4. The response to this by some, I assume like you, is to arm more people.
And to set up public spaces like they are Fort Knox. Police carrying auto rifles, scans at every door way. Blame every single other thing, except the proliferation of these killing machines whose soul purpose is to KILL HUMANS and those who won't give them up in the name of freedom, of which they are helping to make us less free.
That type of thinking isn't the making of a free and open society. It's a prelude to a god damned police state.
I swear some people not being able to see beyond the tip of their nose, by even a quarter of an inch, is ****ing maddening.
DOTY always makes them display their idiocy at its highest level! :hyper:
Response to boston bean (Reply #4)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:33 AM
shadowrider (4,651 posts)
6. You do know the definition of a strawman argument, right?
That's where you take something someone said, twist it into something they didn't say, then attack that argument as though that's what the person said.
GG did NOT say what you say he said. All he said was he would keep his. By the way, I'll keep mine too, but thanks for trying to make me free by taking my freedoms away.
Something about, "The chocolate allotment has been increased from 25 to 20 grams per month" comes to mind.
Response to shadowrider (Reply #6)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:36 AM
Star Member boston bean (25,254 posts)
7. You're keeping all your precious is infringing on my freedom.
Period.
It has infringed the right to LIVE for 20 precious babies in Newtown, and countless others.
Wake up.
Oh the irony.
Beanie keeps making herself look crazier and crazier and then this.
Response to GGJohn (Reply #12)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:45 AM
Star Member boston bean (25,254 posts)
15. I'm fine... you might need some education though...
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/how-the-ar-15-went-from-military-weapon-to-civilian-gun/
Response to boston bean (Reply #15)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:51 AM
GGJohn (7,936 posts)
21. It's still not an assault rifle,
an assault rifle has a specific meaning, an assault rifle is a select fire rifle, either full auto or 3 round burst,
the AR-15 is a semi auto rifle, one trigger pull per round downrange, it operates the same exact way as my decades old semi auto .22 rifle, one trigger pull per round downrange.
I don't need education on firearms from CBS news or you, I spent 40+year in the Army, I think I know a little bit about firearms.
Response to GGJohn (Reply #21)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:53 AM
Star Member boston bean (25,254 posts)
23. What does the AR stand for in AR-15? nt
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Response to boston bean (Reply #23)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:57 AM
GGJohn (7,936 posts)
25. Armalite Rifle.
It's a common mistake by those that know little to nothing about firearms, it doesn't stand for Assault Rifle.
Response to GGJohn (Reply #25)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:59 AM
Star Member boston bean (25,254 posts)
27. You want me to argue semantics of gun language.
I know what they do.
They are semi auto rifles that are nothing but HUMAN killing machines, with multiple capacity rounds, that are not needed for hunting.
They have been used in many of these mass killings we see.
What more do I need to know that your precious FREEDOM means more than the life of innocents?
God you are a retard.
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Wow. It's always those who know the least about an issue that screech the loudest about making it illegal.
KC
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That exchange between Beanie Boy and GGJ is funny! I love the discomfiture of Libs & Progs when they learn their bogeyman symbols mean something very different from what they imagine!
Has anyone on DU pointed out to the resident hoplophobes that, had Farook and Malik not relied on guns, but instead used their pipe bombs effectively, they still could have carried out their mass killing? Probably with an even higher death toll?
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That exchange between Beanie Boy and GGJ is funny! I love the discomfiture of Libs & Progs when they learn their bogeyman symbols mean something very different from what they imagine!
Has anyone on DU pointed out to the resident hoplophobes that, had Farook and Malik not relied on guns, but instead used their pipe bombs effectively, they still could have carried out their mass killing? Probably with an even higher death toll?
But to DUmmies, that would be ok since a gun wasn't used.
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28. LOL.
You very obviously got caught out on the AR vernacular and now you're trying to save face.
The AR platform makes for a great hunting rifle, I have an AR-10 chambered in .308 with a 5 round mag for hunting deer/elk, I can quickly convert it to fire the .223 round for hunting smaller game and protecting our livestock from the predators we have around our neck of the woods.
My firearms, and my right to own them, in no way impacts society.
30. I got caught, so sue me.
Whatevs.
You know that your defense of this type of proliferation of guns is making us a less safe, free society.
I love this. DUmmy is proven wrong, and instead of accepting the error and moving on, doubles down.
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Too funny, miskie! Beanie Boy just can't write the words, "I was wrong!"
:popcorn: And if GGJ posts the stats the show that the murder rate has plummeted in the past couple of decades while gun ownership has "proliferated" (hint for moles), what will Beanie Boy's next move be? :popcorn:
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HUMAN killing machines
So's a candlestick in the library.
Or a wrench in the parlor.
Or a rope in the bedroom.
Or a pipe bomb in a crowded public space.
It takes a HUMAN to operate each item. And you need to be reminded, idiot, that terrorists/murderers don't particularly care about the rulez.
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So's a candlestick in the library.
Or a wrench in the parlor.
Or a rope in the bedroom.
Or a pipe bomb in a crowded public space.
It takes a HUMAN to operate each item. And you need to be reminded, idiot, that terrorists/murderers don't particularly care about the rulez.
You have it all wrong. Those are all perfectly acceptable, because, well, none of them are guns.
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So's a candlestick in the library.
Or a wrench in the parlor.
Or a rope in the bedroom.
Or a pipe bomb in a crowded public space.
It takes a HUMAN to operate each item. And you need to be reminded, idiot, that terrorists/murderers don't particularly care about the rulez.
It was Colonel Mustard dammit!
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The Founding Fathers were so concerned about the type of tyranny they left behind in England, etc...they wrote the 2nd Amendment. But to libs, REAL tyranny is gun ownership and freedom is European style gov't ruled by Kings.
:mental:
Thankfully, this is an issue that knows no party lines. Try taking away, limiting, or regulating guns and you'll have Dems, Republicans, and everything in between daring you to try.
Take away the 2nd Amendment and eventually you can kiss the 1st Amendment goodbye. I believe that.
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Even some DUmmies I'm reading have a glimmer of understanding.
Response to EL34x4 (Reply #9)
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 07:28 PM
1939 (821 posts)
46. Make it part of the Democratic Party "Contract With America"
In 2016, the Democratic party presidential candidate, all senate candidates, and all house candidates will run with that as the crowning peak of their platform. See how that works out for you.
Response to 1939 (Reply #46)
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 07:37 PM
EL34x4 (611 posts)
51. I think it's a great idea!
We're guaranteed to win California!
Response to EL34x4 (Reply #51)
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 07:57 PM
1939 (821 posts)
59. Yes, 1994 anyone? NT
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:rofl:
I love this. DUmmy is proven wrong, and instead of accepting the error and moving on, doubles down.
Nads has a bad influence on DU
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Nads has a bad influence on DU
I believe it was you sir that summed it up a while back about arguing with a liberal.
No matter how obvious they simply will never accept that they are ever wrong about anything to paraphrase without searching out your exact post.
It is why conspiracy theory's run amok at the DUmp.
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I should go burn a mole with the stupid that is this post.
DUmbshits hate it I say that teddy kennedys Oldsmobile has killed more people than all my over forty firearms combined. :fuelfire:
Star Member boston bean (25,264 posts)
11. Your defense of your right to "freedom" is infringing upon others rights, and
is also creating a society that values a killing machine over human life.
Which in fact will lead us to a less safe, open society.
Deal.