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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on December 03, 2015, 11:39:27 AM
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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:44 AM
Star Member kpete (48,402 posts)
I no longer give two f*cks about your 2nd Amendment rights.
By Colorado is the Shiznit
Thursday Dec 03, 2015 12:00 AM PST
Stick a fork in me, I’m done.
stupid meme.
**** YOU, ASSHOLE REPUBLICANS, FOR ASSURING THAT WE DON’T HAVE ANY DECENT NATIONAL GUN CONTROL LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU COMPLETE MOUTH-BREATHING DEGENERATES!
What is wrong with the United States?! **** it if I know, but I’ll tell you this right now: no one’s Second Amendment right precedes my family’s right to live.
If you want to take that away from me, or any other United States citizen, truly — you can go screw yourselves. I don’t care. Your supposed “right†to keep and bear arms does not distinguish my 15-year-old daughter’s right to be a *******ed cheerleader at her school. I don’t care what you say, because it will never matter. The right to already-birthed life should eclipse anyone who wants to do harm to another living soul.
In short, the right to kill people should never supersede the right of any family to live and grow.
And to anyone who thinks differently? **** off. I don’t care to hear from you, ever.
more rant:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/3/1456301/-I-no-longer-give-two-f-cks-about-your-2nd-Amendment-rights
What`s wrong Kathleen,the servants not cook and clean properly so you are pissed off?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:48 AM
Spitfire of ATJ (26,858 posts)
1. Claiming owning a gun is about "freedom" is like claiming owning an SUV is about "freedom".
Uhm,what?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:49 AM
Star Member leftofcool (12,743 posts)
2. I have never in my life been an advocate for mass confiscation but...................
Response to leftofcool (Reply #2)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:03 PM
Buzz Clik (33,372 posts)
8. I turned the corner about a year ago.
It's not what I want, but it's what we need.
Shut up asswipe,isn`t there a fraudulent grant application you should be filling out?
Response to leftofcool (Reply #2)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:11 PM
mwrguy (2,256 posts)
17. mass confiscation is the only real solution
Everything else is just a bandaid.
"Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in!"
Actually I would welcome that because it means you mutts would be stacked up like cord wood in short order.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:54 AM
randys1 (13,156 posts)
3. This is what it will take, sadly.
People will have to become so outraged that NOTHING else matters.
Try it you limp wristed mutt.
Response to AllyCat (Reply #10)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:08 PM
hack89 (32,415 posts)
11. The 2A protects an individual right to keep and bear arms.
According to the Supreme Court, the Democratic party platform, and President Obama.
Response to hack89 (Reply #11)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:11 PM
Rex (58,147 posts)
15. Where in the 2A does it say individual rights?
Yes,he is that stupid.
Response to Rex (Reply #15)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:18 PM
hack89 (32,415 posts)
26. "The right of the people "
Where else in the Bill of Rights does that not signify an individual right? The Bill of Rights are all individual rights- that is why it was added in the first place - to strictly limit government powers.
Response to hack89 (Reply #26)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:20 PM
Rex (58,147 posts)
28. The people that form well regulated militia...where does it say individual rights?
Funny for a government with limited powers, it sure does what it wants to anyway. But whatever, there are no words that say 'individual rights' in the 2A. Gun folks just want it to be that way and the NRA keeps it that way.
Didn`t believe me the first time did ya?
Yet they will all declare later that no one is advocating gun confiscation. :whatever:
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And to anyone who thinks differently? **** off.
The motto of the American progressive. ::)
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You know, Carl, sir, you're right.
This Rex primitive is surely worthy of Top DUmmiedom; I'll remember that when it comes time to vote (next week).
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Response to hack89 (Reply #26)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:20 PM
Rex (58,147 posts)
28. The people that form well regulated militia...where does it say individual rights?
Funny for a government with limited powers, it sure does what it wants to anyway. But whatever, there are no words that say 'individual rights' in the 2A. Gun folks just want it to be that way and the NRA keeps it that way.
Neither in the 1st one either..
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
...or the 4th...
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I am sure the others are the same so I will not bother pasting those.
The level of stupidity shown by DUmmie Rex is so bad it should be against the law.
ETA: I checked the others. The words 'individual rights' do not appear in any of them.
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Take a row over to Skin's Island to see a WHOLE lot of stupid in this thread. They have their panties all in a wad.
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Response to leftofcool (Reply #2)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:03 PM
Buzz Clik (33,372 posts)
8. I turned the corner about a year ago.
It's not what I want, but it's what we need.
Whenever you're ready, you can come and take mine, Paulie.
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This episode was clearly due to:
-The Second Amendment.
-Global warming.
-A YouTube video.
-Joblessness.
-School lunches.
-Confederate flags.
-Christmas.
-Republicans.
-Bush.
-Capitalism.
-Fox News.
-Donald Trump.
-Racism.
-The Crusades
We must stop this from happening by:
-Taking guns away from law abiding citizens.
-Giving money to Nigeria and other third world countries.
-Raising taxes.
-Defeating Donald Trump.
-Diversity training.
-Demand the resignation of college presidents who are not communist and/or people of color.
-Creating more leftist teaching positions in colleges and universities across the country.
-Rioting.
-Stealing big screen TVs from Best Buy.
-Allowing Obama to have a third term.
-Legalizing marijuana.
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Response to Rex (Reply #28)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:47 PM
Star Member Old Codger (3,070 posts)
71. At the time
That the amendments were written the "militia" consisted of any able bodied male over a certain age, the requirement to be included was that you had to own a gun.
The phrase well regulated referred to training not to control by the government. You cannot have the word "people" mean something different in one amendment than ti does in another.
Response to Old Codger (Reply #71)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:49 PM
Rex (58,166 posts)
75. Exactly! The word 'people' and 'individual' are not the same word at all!
THANK YOU! And I assure you, if the Founders had wanted the word 'individual' in there somewhere...it would be there.
You just can`t be born with idiocy that deep,it takes a lifetime working on it.
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Just when I thought they could not get any DUmber...
Fuddnik (7,272 posts)
62. The 2nd Amendment was a concession to the Slave States.
You can read about it in the Federalist Papers. It was worded with the term "states", as in free state. It applied to states being able to keep runaway slave patrols, in which service was mandatory at the time.
The 2nd amendment is obsolete. And in my opinion, so are states. We're one country now. Why have 51 different governments and sets of laws?
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Response to leftofcool (Reply #2)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:11 PM
mwrguy (2,256 posts)
17. mass confiscation is the only real solution
Everything else is just a bandaid.
"Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in!"
Is it wrong of me to smile with anticipation when I read this drivel?
No, it isn't.
Actually I would welcome that because it means you mutts would be stacked up like cord wood in short order.
I hope the DUmmy brings lots of friends. I want to build a fence on my property line.
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Is it wrong of me to smile with anticipation when I read this drivel?
No, it isn't.
I hope the DUmmy brings lots of friends. I want to build a fence on my property line.
I like the 'social work' applications here . . . :whistling:
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Fuddnik (7,272 posts)
62. The 2nd Amendment was a concession to the Slave States.
You can read about it in the Federalist Papers. It was worded with the term "states", as in free state. It applied to states being able to keep runaway slave patrols, in which service was mandatory at the time.
Ummmmm..... yeah.
The 2nd amendment is obsolete. And in my opinion, so are states. We're one country now. Why have 51 different governments and sets of laws?
There you go, DUmmy. You just put the "national" into "National Socialist". Now it's time for you to grow a little mustache and work on your goosestep.
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Why don't the DUmmies suggest they do this in the liberal strongholds where guns are already illegal? Go door to door and search the houses? Or stop people on the street and see if that person is carrying. Oh, that's right they tried it in New York with stop and frisk, and the DUmmies howled about the civil rights violations.
So how do they think the confiscation would work?
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Fuddnik
... obsolete. And in my opinion, so are states. We're one country now. Why have 51 different governments and sets of laws?
There's 57 states!!
...... stinkin' dumb primitives.........
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Before the idiot edits it away.
Response to jonno99 (Reply #110)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 01:42 PM
Rex (58,190 posts)
129. Yes and that is why we have a National Guard.
If the Founders wanted the word 'individual' in the 2A they would have put it in there. They were very good with wording. We have the 2A because the British came back in 1812 with a vengeance. That is recorded history.
Also like someone else said up thread, slave patrols and for many outposts as a posse comitatus. The key word is 'well-regulated', as stated first by the Founders that understood how stupid people can get.
Personally I don't care if target shooters or hunters have their firearms. My point is in modern times the 2A means the National Guard, which is there to protect us against the federal government. That is it's purpose. Call up citizen soldiers to quell federal tyranny.
You have your right to bear and keep firearms, join the National Guard. Or just be a hunter or sports enthusiast. Is that too hard? All this over your right to have a hobby or go hunting? Ridiculous, ludicrous, now the meaning is warped by groups like the NRA and preppers waiting in their fallout shelter.
The 1A promises us to be unconditional on our right to express ourselves in our own home in the case of self defense. The 2A has nothing to do with home defense. It did. I won't argue that.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Has any DU member reflected on the fact that mass shootings like this happen in places that have some of the most stringent ant-gun laws (calling them what they are!) in the nation? Or that so often they happen in "gun-free" zones (was the Colorado Springs PP building a gun-free zone?)?
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Well, I was wrong on how they'd react. On a positive note they are finally just saying up front what we all know about them.
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Before the idiot edits it away.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Oh, shit. That's funny.
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Rex (58,190 posts)
129. Yes and that is why we have a National Guard.
If the Founders wanted the word 'individual' in the 2A they would have put it in there. They were very good with wording. We have the 2A because the British came back in 1812 with a vengeance. That is recorded history.
Also like someone else said up thread, slave patrols and for many outposts as a posse comitatus. The key word is 'well-regulated', as stated first by the Founders that understood how stupid people can get.
Personally I don't care if target shooters or hunters have their firearms. My point is in modern times the 2A means the National Guard, which is there to protect us against the federal government. That is it's purpose. Call up citizen soldiers to quell federal tyranny.
You have your right to bear and keep firearms, join the National Guard. Or just be a hunter or sports enthusiast. Is that too hard? All this over your right to have a hobby or go hunting? Ridiculous, ludicrous, now the meaning is warped by groups like the NRA and preppers waiting in their fallout shelter.
The 1A promises us to be unconditional on our right to express ourselves in our own home in the case of self defense. The 2A has nothing to do with home defense. It did. I won't argue that.
Hmm using that pretzel logic lets repeal the 19th as I am sure the founders who "were very good at wording" would have included it originally. How about it DUmbass.
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Oh, shit. That's funny.
I was wrong,the dipshit was called on it and he refuses to acknowledge the obvious error and keeps referencing people back to his post. :rofl:
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There are two things you can never get around with liberal swine when it comes to the 2nd Amendment. They think of the "people" in the same sense as all communist dictatorships. The people and the state are interchangeable. Also, they refuse to recognize that the term "well regulated",at the time, meant well equipped & trained.
Much easier to just shoot them.
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Before the idiot edits it away.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
That is one of the most idiotic, convoluted, and downright stupid posts I have read from a DUmp rat in a good long while.
Holy smokes!
Hey, guys, do any of you think I should tell them about how USC Title 10, Section 311 defines "militia" - specifically unorganized militia?
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That is one of the most idiotic, convoluted, and downright stupid posts I have read from a DUmp rat in a good long while.
Holy smokes!
Hey, guys, do any of you think I should tell them about how USC Title 10, Section 311 defines "militia" - specifically unorganized militia?
They all need to read this (I know it is Wiki but still).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_case_law_in_the_United_States
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They all need to read this (I know it is Wiki but still).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_case_law_in_the_United_States
Still a good jump off point, especially Presser v Illinois.
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You know, if aliens came down to earth and read this drivel:
If the Founders wanted the word 'individual' in the 2A they would have put it in there. They were very good with wording. We have the 2A because the British came back in 1812 with a vengeance. That is recorded history.
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They would think the 2A was written AFTER the war of 1812 because the British came back with a vengence.
Here is a hint you f'in DUmmie: It was written WELL BEFORE 1812 because the founders anticipated absolutely needing it against ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
Holy Jeebus, liberals disgust me.
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Response to kpete (Original post)Thu Dec 3, 2015, 04:27 PM
cleanhippie (18,523 posts)
265. "The right to kill"????
Must have missed that one in civics class.
Maybe for people like this gasbag, I should give zero ****s about his first amendment rights.
Good one, cleanhippie--as if such a thing exists. 18 thousand posts. Deep cover mole.
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I so wish Buzzy was still around.
He could help me with the quandary I am in.
That is now that he has come around to supporting confiscation.
Ostensibly he would be the first one to volunteer to have his firearms confiscated.
So here is my problem.
Some terrorists are let into our country on questionable Visa and commit a terrorist act against our countrymen with foreign weapons.
Quite possibly some of the weapons originated in owebuma and Holder's fast and furious scandal.
And our response should be to ban and confiscate all weapons owned by legitimate hard working tax paying citizens ?
Is that about it Buzzy ?
Please deign to explain that to me Buzzy.
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I see the nasty candidate for a late term abortion has no idea what "well regulated" means in 18th Century vernacular. :mental:
nadinbrzezinski (141,800 posts)
112. You should read a lot more into the case law
I would recommend a law library. But until Heller the USSC did pretty much go into the idea of a well regulated, which Heller threw on it's nose.
For the moment I will start you here. Non technical and a nice little essay on upcoming (maybe) challenges.
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I see the nasty candidate for a late term abortion has no idea what "well regulated" means in 18th Century vernacular. :mental:
For the moment I will start you here.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, nads.
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Rex (58,190 posts)
129. Yes and that is why we have a National Guard.
If the Founders wanted the word 'individual' in the 2A they would have put it in there. They were very good with wording. We have the 2A because the British came back in 1812 with a vengeance. That is recorded history.
As PGR said, what came to be called the 2nd Amendment was written and adopted long before the War of 1812 - proposed before Congress in 1789, and ratified in 1791.
As for Rex's first sentence, (s)he should have re-read the Bill of Rights before posting something so stupid. If "people" does not mean "individuals", guess what else is no longer the rights of individuals:
1st Amendment: rights to peaceably assemble and to petition the government;
4th Amendment: rights not to have their property searched/seized without a search warrant, probable cause being a prerequisite for a search warrant being issued, and the objects being sought being specified;
The 9th and 10th amendments in their entirety.
Those who want to play words games so as to deny the clear and obvious meaning of the 2nd Amendment should at least make sure that denial doesn't also deny other rights, rights more cherished by the one trying to deny the right recognized in the 2nd Amendment.