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Title: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: JakeStyle on December 02, 2015, 03:56:43 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027404264

Knew this was coming.  Trump mocking disabled reporter encourages RW crazies to kill the handicapped!

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Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:33 PM

lumberjack_jeff (31,052 posts)

If the shooters of the developmental disability center in CA were Trump supporters...

Then this election is about more than simple politics.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:42 PM

lumberjack_jeff (31,052 posts)

3. Trump's bigotry and fascism is right in our faces.

Why do three armed men shoot up a clinic for the developmentally disabled?

Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: Chris_ on December 02, 2015, 03:58:31 PM
Are these people really that dumb?

Silly question.  Of course they are.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: tuolumnejim on December 02, 2015, 04:03:45 PM
Are these people really that dumb?

Silly question.  Of course they are.
Definitely answered your own question right there.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: Fourwinds on December 02, 2015, 04:07:52 PM
Are these people really that dumb?

Silly question.  Of course they are.

I don't even think they are that dumb. The reason they keep jumping the gun on these shootings is because they are banking on the law of averages. Basically, they believe  they will eventually  be right when it comes to identifying a shooter one day. Remember, they only have to get one guess right.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: franksolich on December 02, 2015, 04:21:18 PM
Lumbering Jeff deleted his original post.

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maxsolomon (12,751 posts)   Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:50 PM

9. No shit.
 
But there are 4 possibilities:
1. Militia types
2. Narcoterrorists
3. ISIL/Jihadis
4. Random alienated youth, like Columbine.

Frankly, I'd prefer #1 because it fits my politics. I sure hope it isn't #3, because that helps the Fascists next year.

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lumberjack_jeff (31,057 posts)    Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:57 PM

11. The only plausible alternative to #1 is #4, IMHO.
 
I'm going to self-delete because you might be right about speculation.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: franksolich on December 02, 2015, 04:22:53 PM
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DebbieCDC (2,245 posts)  Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:49 PM 

8. Well that moron Jake Tapper on CNN
 
Is already speculating on "Islamic terrorists" 

Well, if the shoe fits, maybe one should wear it.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: Big Dog on December 02, 2015, 04:30:45 PM
Lumbering Jeff deleted his original post.

He should have considered a fifth option: shut his pie-hole and wait for the facts.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: Big Dog on December 02, 2015, 04:31:32 PM
Well, if the shoe fits, maybe one should wear it.

Great shot at the MasterNemesis, coach!
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: BattleHymn on December 02, 2015, 04:37:52 PM
More importantly, why are the police looking for a suspect by the name of Farooq Saeed? 

Those damn Amish!
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: Carl on December 02, 2015, 04:56:31 PM
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maxsolomon (12,751 posts)   Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:50 PM

9. No shit.
 
But there are 4 possibilities:
1. Militia types
2. Narcoterrorists
3. ISIL/Jihadis
4. Random alienated youth, like Columbine.

Frankly, I'd prefer #1 because it fits my politics. I sure hope it isn't #3, because that helps the Fascists next year.

This is why normal people are revolted by you vile pieces of crap.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 02, 2015, 05:03:15 PM
As soon as I saw the reports that the attack was on a building that housed the developmentally disabled I thought...

"OMG! They're attacking the Democrats' campaign headquarters!"
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: BattleHymn on December 02, 2015, 05:04:24 PM
As soon as I saw the reports that the attack was on a building that housed the developmentally disabled I thought...

"OMG! They're attacking the Democrats' campaign headquarters!"

H5
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: DLR Pyro on December 02, 2015, 05:18:15 PM
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lumberjack_jeff (31,052 posts)

If the shooters of the developmental disability center in CA were Trump supporters..

maybe the shooters were John Lennon fans...
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdnrFUHdYpg[/youtube]
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: thundley4 on December 02, 2015, 05:45:25 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027404264

Knew this was coming.  Trump mocking disabled reporter encourages RW crazies to kill the handicapped!

The left and DUmmies are so predictable.

I tweeted this earlier.

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‏@thundley4  4h4 hours ago
#DonaldTrump attack developmentally disabled people. Right lefties?
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: DUmpsterDiver on December 02, 2015, 06:30:40 PM
Everyone of these democrat enabled killings eats away at their future plans to destroy America.  Let them think otherwise.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on December 02, 2015, 07:17:56 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027404264

Knew this was coming.  Trump mocking disabled reporter encourages RW crazies to kill the handicapped!

Yep!  As soon as that rumor was floated, I thought the exact same thing.

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The left and DUmmies are so predictable.

It's almost like we know what they will say before they do.  :-)

*ugh*
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: HawkHogan on December 02, 2015, 07:47:38 PM
At the press conference, the police chief mentioned that a woman and man suspect were shot dead. 

They won't mention a race.

Let me guess. 

MUSLIMS!
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: FlaGator on December 02, 2015, 08:12:47 PM
The left and DUmmies are so predictable.

I tweeted this earlier.

Not very deep thinkers are they?
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: SVPete on December 02, 2015, 08:20:14 PM
Wow! DU folk certainly don't waste time fabricating wet-dream fantasy "causes" for shootings!

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maxsolomon (12,751 posts)   Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:50 PM
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But there are 4 possibilities:
1. Militia types
2. Narcoterrorists
3. ISIL/Jihadis
4. Random alienated youth, like Columbine.

Frankly, I'd prefer #1 because it fits my politics. I sure hope it isn't #3, because that helps the Fascists next year.

Well I'll give the dude half a kudo, for being honest regarding his politics.

IMO - and I am speaking entirely speculatively - his 4th possibility is not very likely. I don't think "Random alienated youth, like Columbine" are capable of getting the sort of gear or do the degree of planning these 3 killers used and carried out. IMO, jihadis and drugs-related gang types are the most likely; "(m)ilitia types", IMO, are a much less likely possibility. Libs and Progs were hysterically crying wolf about militias, in the 90s and 00, but have been quieter the past several years between the threat not becoming actual, and with other, newer, bogeymen.

I, also, am content to wait for information to come out.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: Delmar on December 02, 2015, 08:51:44 PM

I, also, am content to wait for information to come out.

Not me.  I can hardly wait to find out if it was Trump supporters or Islamofascists.  The suspense is killing me.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: freedumb2003b on December 02, 2015, 08:54:03 PM
Not me.  I can hardly wait to find out if it was Trump supporters or Islamofascists.  The suspense is killing me.

The latter.  syed farook, his brother and some arab bitch.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: Lacarnut on December 02, 2015, 09:01:54 PM


I, also, am content to wait for information to come out.

You will not get the real story from the liberal media and Rhino's like blowheart Bill O. and Megan K.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: FlippyDoo on December 02, 2015, 09:13:28 PM
Has the round mound of vast renown given any indepth analysis?
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: JakeStyle on December 02, 2015, 10:21:11 PM
Has the round mound of vast renown given any indepth analysis?

She is popping up in random threads to scold the other DUmmies for speculating without having all the facts, something she claims she never does.  She also let it be known that if it weren't for a doctor appointment this afternoon, she would have made the drive to San Bernardino to cover the action.

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Response to still_one (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:37 PM

nadinbrzezinski (141,753 posts)

10. SPECULATION... (There is a reason I need to label as such)

What if this is terrorism (I will leave the speculation as to why to the "experts" here. I prefer to deal with the facts as they emerge), but it turns out to be tied to an INTERNAL cause? You know like an internal RW cause?

The FBI is being extremely careful for a good reason by the way. Not that this would surprise me in the least.

 :whatever:
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: franksolich on December 02, 2015, 10:40:27 PM
She is popping up in random threads to scold the other DUmmies for speculating without having all the facts, something she claims she never does.  She also let it be known that if it weren't for a doctor appointment this afternoon, she would have made the drive to San Bernardino to cover the action.

 :whatever:

Yeah, I saw this earlier; the cousin was really playing up the fact that she had this doctor appointment.

But I don't think she would've gone to the scene even if she didn't have the appointment; after all, if she won't go to Ensenada, why would she go to San Bernardino?
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on December 03, 2015, 06:31:28 AM
Yeah, I saw this earlier; the cousin was really playing up the fact that she had this doctor appointment.

But I don't think she would've gone to the scene even if she didn't have the appointment; after all, if she won't go to Ensenada, why would she go to San Bernardino?
Well...if San Bernardino was at a lower elevation gravity might just cause her to roll that way.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: tanstaafl on December 03, 2015, 06:45:56 AM
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Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:33 PM

lumberjack_jeff (31,052 posts)

If the shooters of the developmental disability center in CA were Trump supporters...

Nice try, stick wacker primitive. Chalk up another FAIL for DUmmie-Land.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: SVPete on December 03, 2015, 07:02:14 AM
Here is a summary from CNN of what they say is known.

San Bernardino shooting: Who are Syed Rezwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik? (http://fox6now.com/2015/12/03/san-bernardino-shooting-who-are-syed-rezwan-farook-and-tashfeen-malik/)
Posted 5:52 am, December 3, 2015
CNN Wire Service
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Here is what we know about the attackers: Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik.
They are a couple
Police say Farook, 28, and Malik, 27, are either married or in a relationship. The Council on American Islamic Relations, a Muslim advocacy group, said Farook has been married for two years — but wouldn’t confirm whether Malik was the wife’s name.
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Farook, an American citizen, was an environmental health specialist with the San Bernardino County health department, which was hosting the holiday party at Inland Regional.
He had been there five years. Records list a man with his name and title who worked at the agency and made $53,000 in 2013.
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Farook was at the party but left abruptly before the shooting. He seemed angry, witnesses told police. He returned. And, along with Malik, he went into the building and began firing.
,,,
The attackers were “dressed in dark, kind of tactical gear,” Burguan said. They carried rifles and semi-automatic handguns.
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“These were people that came prepared,” he said. “There had to have been some degree of planning that went into this.”
They intended to inflict more damage
A bag believed to belong to the shooters was found inside the conference room. Inside, investigators found three rudimentary explosive devices packed with black powder and rigged to a remote controlled car. The remote for the car was found inside the SUV where Farook and Malik were later killed, a law enforcement official said.
CNN does not mention it, but there is at least one Islamic Center in San Bernardino. I wonder if anyone has looked into whether Farook attended there, what teachers he may have favored if he did, etc.. That he went to Saudi Arabia for a wife suggests he was less westernized than he claimed, or that he had turned Islamic.

While Farook attacked people he had worked with, it's rather obvious impulse had no part. He and Malik had gathered weapons, Kevlar vests, rigged a robot car with explosives and attacked at a party they knew was scheduled, (and which Farook had attended in at least one previous year). So this was not "workplace violence", in the sense of some one who had conflicts with their boss or coworkers and got so angry that (s)he decided to kill them.

Right now I think it reasonable to say that DU-member maxsolomon's possibility #3, "ISIL/Jihadis" looks closest to the motive for the shooting, though Farook and Malik may have been acting on their own part, possibly influenced by a particular teacher at the Islamic Center or some family member, rather than being members of ISIS or A-Q or some other terror group. Time may tell on that point.

maxsolomon's possibility #3, "ISIL/Jihadis"was the one he liked least, because of his politics. This is shaping up to be another, "reality is hard on Progs and Prog ideology" incident. Have the, "This is too convenient for name of bogeyman here!" conspiracy theories started popping up on DU yet?
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on December 03, 2015, 09:18:35 AM
Have any of the DUmmies claimed this was a false flag operation to increase support for legislation to stop Syrian refugees from coming to the US? If they haven't, they will.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: Boudicca on December 03, 2015, 09:28:49 AM
H5

Indeed, Snugs has earned one from me as well!
Well, now we know there was nothing about the disabled driving these Islamic terrorists.  I think the hateful rhetoric some on the Left spew about Christians is the reason why the ragheaded evildoers shot up a Christmas party.

See, ****head DUmmie terrorism enablers, both sides can play your stupid game of point and blame.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: FlaGator on December 03, 2015, 10:52:57 AM
I don't know... call me crazy but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that these two weren't Trump supporters.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 03, 2015, 12:31:24 PM
I don't know... call me crazy but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that these two weren't Trump supporters.

Ya think? :whistling: :tongue:
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on December 03, 2015, 12:36:37 PM
What he said:

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If the shooters of the developmental disability center in CA were Trump supporters...

Then this election is about more than simple politics.

What he meant:

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If the shooters of the developmental disability center in CA were Trump supporters...

Please, oh PLEASE let them be Trump supporters.

In fact, let's just call them Trump supporters, even though they're really Muslims.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: Fourwinds on December 03, 2015, 02:19:07 PM
I wish I could go over there and troll them but I know post would be deleted within a minute. DU has a team of people who can hide info at a speed which would astonish Stalin.
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: dixierose on December 03, 2015, 02:36:20 PM
As soon as I saw the reports that the attack was on a building that housed the developmentally disabled I thought...

"OMG! They're attacking the Democrats' campaign headquarters!"

H5

 :rofl:
Title: Re: If the shooters of the developmental disability center were Trump supporters..
Post by: AprilRazz on December 03, 2015, 10:16:19 PM
Yeah, I saw this earlier; the cousin was really playing up the fact that she had this doctor appointment.


She is finally getting that sex change finished?