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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on December 02, 2015, 02:43:05 PM
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Star Member Stinky The Clown (53,277 posts)
END THE ****ING GUN MADDNESS NOW
Jesus ****ing Christ on a Trailer Hitch.
PLEASE END THIS.
Call Obozo.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027403945
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Senile old idiot said something?
The trophy wife is polishing your casket Mike.
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To any DUmbasses that might be lurking in this thread. If the nutcase in Colorado Springs had been targeting Planned Parenthood, this is what it would have looked like.
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There's an active shooter situation in San Bernadino CA at the moment. A social services center for developmentally disabled people was shot up by "1 to 3" heavily armed suspects, possibly wearing body armor, who supposedly sped off in a SUV. I've seen reports that there's 12 fatalities.
That is probably what ol' Mike is referencing.
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A total lack of actual information, but wall-to-wall coverage of the same few known basics, endlessly looping. The 'Why' on the location is totally a mystery.
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A total lack of actual information, but wall-to-wall coverage of the same few known basics, endlessly looping. The 'Why' on the location is totally a mystery.
That's one of the reasons it doesn't bother me, not having radio or television here.
I already know that when there's big important news, a few facts will be repeated over and over again, and it won't be for several hours before the complete story comes out anyway.
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I'm at my desk, TV right here in the office. Not even bothering to turn it on. There will be several hours or more of different stories, speculation etc.....not worth my time.
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I'm at my desk, TV right here in the office. Not even bothering to turn it on. There will be several hours or more of different stories, speculation etc.....not worth my time.
My deal is, if I had a radio or television here and could hear it, I'd sit in front of it for however long it took, to get the story.....and so I'd be wasting a lot of time hearing the same few facts over and over and over again.
Best to just wait, and get them all.
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.....and so I'd be wasting a lot of time hearing the same few facts over and over and over again.
That's pretty much how it works.
Meanwhile, search warrants and court records related to Robert Dear in Colorado have been sealed, so there's nothing new coming from that case unless someone manages to leak something to the news media.
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Star Member Stinky The Clown (53,277 posts)
END THE ****ING GUN MADDNESS NOW
I agree, Mikey.
You're never going to get the confiscation you dream of, so end the ****ing gun-grabbing madness now.
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My deal is, if I had a radio or television here and could hear it, I'd sit in front of it for however long it took, to get the story.....and so I'd be wasting a lot of time hearing the same few facts over and over and over again.
Best to just wait, and get them all.
A few tidbits of information surface amid all the panicked finger-wagging over guns. Apparently the shooters targeted a meeting of an 'Outside group' that was using a conference room in the Center, there is no particular relationship to the 'Handicapped' clientele.
So far things are remarkably quiet on the key question of 'Just what the Hell group was actually meeting there, and what are they REALLY, notwithstanding whatever name they gave when they asked for the room?' It appears to have been a highly organized raid specifically aimed at the 'Outside group' and the shooters unassed the area immediately after shooting up the meeting.
Does not appear to be your typical random nutcase shooting.
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A few tidbits of information surface amid all the panicked finger-wagging over guns. Apparently the shooters targeted a meeting of an 'Outside group' that was using a conference room in the Center, there is no particular relationship to the 'Handicapped' clientele.
So far things are remarkably quiet on the key question of 'Just what the Hell group was actually meeting there, and what are they REALLY, notwithstanding whatever name they gave when they asked for the room?' It appears to have been a highly organized raid specifically aimed at the 'Outside group' and the shooters unassed the area immediately after shooting up the meeting.
Does not appear to be your typical random nutcase shooting.
DEA or ATF? I've been thinking a Mexican drug cartel carried this act out for a couple of hours now.
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A few tidbits of information surface amid all the panicked finger-wagging over guns. Apparently the shooters targeted a meeting of an 'Outside group' that was using a conference room in the Center, there is no particular relationship to the 'Handicapped' clientele.
So far things are remarkably quiet on the key question of 'Just what the Hell group was actually meeting there, and what are they REALLY, notwithstanding whatever name they gave when they asked for the room?' It appears to have been a highly organized raid specifically aimed at the 'Outside group' and the shooters unassed the area immediately after shooting up the meeting.
Does not appear to be your typical random nutcase shooting.
Any info on whether Confederate flags or offensive cartoons were on display in the area?
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Any info on whether Confederate flags or offensive cartoons were on display in the area?
Maybe unspoken micro-aggressions and/or privilege of some sort set off the shooters?
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Any info on whether Confederate flags or offensive cartoons were on display in the area?
I heard someone might have blared the General Lee horn in the Nevada desert.
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Of course the first tweets out of Hitlary and owebuma were calls for gun control.
owebuma said mass shootings like that only happen in the US.
He is either woefully uninformed, or delusional.
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Of course the first tweets out of Hitlary and owebuma were calls for gun control.
owebuma said mass shootings like that only happen in the US.
He is either woefully uninformed, or delusional.
Both.
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uh oh..sleeper cell maybe?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027405423
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uh oh..sleeper cell maybe?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027405423
Warpy set off a dog whistle:
Warpy
2. Naw, I'm almost willing to bet the rent these were US homeboys
with maybe one token Arabic speaker to rile them up. These guys wanted to get out alive. ISIL doesn't.
Homeboys and token. Wonder if her fellow DUmpmonkeys will call her out on her blatant racism and cultural appropriation.
BuzzClik, what about you?
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I'm at my desk, TV right here in the office. Not even bothering to turn it on. There will be several hours or more of different stories, speculation etc.....not worth my time.
Exactly. Let all the (D)Marxist®Media hyperventilating clear out. It does not, however, appear to be what the (D)Ummies are looking for.
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Of course the first tweets out of Hitlary and owebuma were calls for gun control.
owebuma said mass shootings like that only happen in the US.
He is either woefully uninformed, or delusional.
Dude, you know better than that. :hammer:
It's all part of the plan.
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Exactly. Let all the (D)Marxist®Media hyperventilating clear out. It does not, however, appear to be what the (D)Ummies are looking for.
I simply tire of the same reporters and talking heads asking the same stupid questions over and over even though nobody has an answer yet. CNBC will have some dolt on blaming it on global warming and claiming we need to have a carbon tax to prevent future shootings, CNN will be talking about neeeding more gun control....................same stuff over and over. Why waste time watching?
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Warpy
2. Naw, I'm almost willing to bet the rent these were US homeboys
with maybe one token Arabic speaker to rile them up. These guys wanted to get out alive. ISIL doesn't.
One of them was from Qatar. DUmmies are always wrong.
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You know, the sparkling old dude has always betrayed a certain sort of fear about firearms.
Yes, yes, it's a good thing to be respectful of firearms, but the sparkling old dude's fear of them has always struck me as peculiar. And remember, I've known the sparkling old dude for more than a dozen years now, with lots of chances to observe him.
It strikes me as the fear of something with which one's been threatened before.
The sparkling old dude's no innocent; a hardened veteran of the U.S. Navy and then later an officer in the Naval Reserves, he's undoubtedly dealt with firearms and knows how to use them.
I wonder if by growing up on the organized-crime infested streets of Bridgeport, Connecticut during the 1950s, something happened.
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You know, the sparkling old dude has always betrayed a certain sort of fear about firearms.
Yes, yes, it's a good thing to be respectful of firearms, but the sparkling old dude's fear of them has always struck me as peculiar. And remember, I've known the sparkling old dude for more than a dozen years now, with lots of chances to observe him.
It strikes me as the fear of something with which one's been threatened before.
The sparkling old dude's no innocent; a hardened veteran of the U.S. Navy and then later an officer in the Naval Reserves, he's undoubtedly dealt with firearms and knows how to use them.
I wonder if by growing up on the organized-crime infested streets of Bridgeport, Connecticut during the 1950s, something happened.
Frank, I was in the Navy on a submarine and rarely handled any type of firearm. We had to shoot a 12 gauge shotgun and a .45 and that was to hit a target a couple of times to say that we had qualified with them. At the time, there was no training in boot camp with them.
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Frank, I was in the Navy on a submarine and rarely handled any type of firearm. We had to shoot a 12 gauge shotgun and a .45 and that was to hit a target a couple of times to say that we had qualified with them. At the time, there was no training in boot camp with them.
Whoa; thanks for the illumination. I wasn't aware we had anybody who served in the military who didn't acquire at least a basic knowledge of firearms, no matter in what capacity one served.
I can see where knowledge of firearms might, or might not, be pretty much useless on a submarine, but I figured all you guys were taught the basic stuff anyway.
The sparkling old dude served in a mine-sweeper based in Charleston, South Carolina, 1965-1967, keeping the American mainland safe from invasion by Morocco or Sao Tome e Principe, I suppose. He may have been "only" a galley cook, but I suspect he was rather more than that.
But he's always been so skittish about firearms I wonder if he had some sort of traumatic experience earlier in life, like when he was a juvenile delinquent running amok in Bridgeport, disappointing his parents.
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Whoa; thanks for the illumination. I wasn't aware we had anybody who served in the military who didn't acquire at least a basic knowledge of firearms, no matter in what capacity one served.
I can see where knowledge of firearms might, or might not, be pretty much useless on a submarine, but I figured all you guys were taught the basic stuff anyway.
The sparkling old dude served in a mine-sweeper based in Charleston, South Carolina, 1965-1967, keeping the American mainland safe from invasion by Morocco or Sao Tome e Principe, I suppose. He may have been "only" a galley cook, but I suspect he was rather more than that.
But he's always been so skittish about firearms I wonder if he had some sort of traumatic experience earlier in life, like when he was a juvenile delinquent running amok in Bridgeport, disappointing his parents.
Given the time frame that he was in, he probably did have some training with weapons. I was in during the "peaceful" early to mid 80's.
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Whoa; thanks for the illumination. I wasn't aware we had anybody who served in the military who didn't acquire at least a basic knowledge of firearms, no matter in what capacity one served.
I can see where knowledge of firearms might, or might not, be pretty much useless on a submarine, but I figured all you guys were taught the basic stuff anyway.
The sparkling old dude served in a mine-sweeper based in Charleston, South Carolina, 1965-1967, keeping the American mainland safe from invasion by Morocco or Sao Tome e Principe, I suppose. He may have been "only" a galley cook, but I suspect he was rather more than that.
But he's always been so skittish about firearms I wonder if he had some sort of traumatic experience earlier in life, like when he was a juvenile delinquent running amok in Bridgeport, disappointing his parents.
As an enlisted man in the Army, I had extensive and recurring training on the M-16 rifle.
As an officer in the Navy, I only once ever had anything to do with any firearm.
It was a 5 shooter .38 caliber 1 inch barrel revolver.
The reason for getting qualified with it was to serve as a courier of classified(none of Hitlery's by the way) documents.
We all loaded up one day, went to an indoor 25 foot range, had to hit the target with a minimum score with all 5 rounds, and then done.
No practice, no previous training, and no recurring training.
I had much more extensive initial and ongoing training for aerial gunnery, and air to ground gun, rockets as well as live and inert bombs.
edit add.
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Star Member Stinky The Clown (53,277 posts)
END THE ****ING GUN MADDNESS NOW
Jesus ****ing Christ on a Trailer Hitch.
PLEASE END THIS.
Hey Stinky...you do realize that this happened in a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the country?
California IIRC has every single gun law you can think of and that's on your wish list...and yet this STILL happened.
Let that sink in for a minute.
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Hey Stinky...you do realize that this happened in a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the country?
California IIRC has every single gun law you can think of and that's on your wish list...and yet this STILL happened.
In all the history of mankind, a primitive has never made that connection.
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In all the history of mankind, a primitive has never made that connection.
Frank I think they make the connection...they simply refuse to accept the connection.
To do that would be a repudiation of everything they've been brainwashed into believing.
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Frank I think they make the connection...they simply refuse to accept the connection.
To do that would be a repudiation of everything they've been brainwashed into believing.
The New York Daily News refuses to.
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You know, the sparkling old dude has always betrayed a certain sort of fear about firearms.
Yes, yes, it's a good thing to be respectful of firearms, but the sparkling old dude's fear of them has always struck me as peculiar. And remember, I've known the sparkling old dude for more than a dozen years now, with lots of chances to observe him.
It strikes me as the fear of something with which one's been threatened before.
The sparkling old dude's no innocent; a hardened veteran of the U.S. Navy and then later an officer in the Naval Reserves, he's undoubtedly dealt with firearms and knows how to use them.
I wonder if by growing up on the organized-crime infested streets of Bridgeport, Connecticut during the 1950s, something happened.
The Navy an Air Force version of firearms training for the herd is pretty much on the level of 'Just enough not to kill your own damn self with it,' and has been that way for decades. There are of course many in both services who are experts, aficionados, and also gun-haters, but that's due to individual inclination, not common training.
Are you sure about that 'Officer' thing? With his background, I would expect him to have become an NCO in his later reserve time, since with only two years on active duty in the late sixties he likely did not make it to NCO ranks during his active hitch. I have been an 'Other ranks,' an NCO, and officer, and with no disrespect to any group, there is a WORLD of difference between noncommissioned officer and commissioned officer. The word 'Officer' by itself is NEVER used to describe an NCO, only as a shorthand term for commissioned and warrant officers.
Another factor in Stinky's hoplophobia may be his role as a slumlord in Baltimore.
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The Navy an Air Force version of firearms training for the herd is pretty much on the level of 'Just enough not to kill your own damn self with it,' and has been that way for decades. There are of course many in both services who are experts, aficionados, and also gun-haters, but that's due to individual inclination, not common training.
Are you sure about that 'Officer' thing? With his background, I would expect him to have become an NCO in his later reserve time, since with only two years on active duty in the late sixties he likely did not make it to NCO ranks during his active hitch. I have been an 'Other ranks,' an NCO, and officer, and with no disrespect to any group, there is a WORLD of difference between noncommissioned officer and commissioned officer. The word 'Officer' by itself is NEVER used to describe an NCO, only as a shorthand term for commissioned and warrant officers.
Another factor in Stinky's hoplophobia may be his role as a slumlord in Baltimore.
My husband would argue vociferously that there is also a world of difference between a warrant and a commissioned officer! :-)
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My husband would argue vociferously that there is also a world of difference between a warrant and a commissioned officer! :-)
Well, there is, but it's not as big as the gulf between NCO and officer. Since the late 80s all the warrants above W1 are 'Commissioned warrant officers' so in a technical sense he'd be wrong. You can get away with referring to warrants as 'officers' without confusing the shit out of your listener.
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My husband would argue vociferously that there is also a world of difference between a warrant and a commissioned officer! :-)
Your husband is correct.
Commissioned Officers are considered tactician.
Warrants are technicians.
How it was explained 40 years ago.
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Well, there is, but it's not as big as the gulf between NCO and officer. Since the late 80s all the warrants above W1 are 'Commissioned warrant officers' so in a technical sense he'd be wrong. You can get away with referring to warrants as 'officers' without confusing the shit out of your listener.
Oh, I know. Hubby was "appointed" in 1987; I was commissioned so he loved to give me shit. :-)
He's a CW5 so gets lumped in with "special parking spaces" at the PX and commissary with Colonels.
Best part of him being retired warrant officer, except the pension of course! Gotta pay the bills, after all.
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Your husband is correct.
Didn't get me out of those pesky officers' wives coffees though. I thought marrying an E6, it would be the end of that crap. Then, he decided to go warrant. I don't think the military plays these "social" games any more.
My first husband was a lieutenant, and a crazy person but that's not the point. I got tired of some captain's wife trying to lord it over me (and me a lieutenant myself) so finally I told her if she was so much in love with her husband's rank she should have gotten her own commission. :hammer: That went over as well as telling a liberal that Obama is a wet turd. :tongue:
LOL, then I married an E-6 when I was an O-3. But then, I don't suppose any of you have me confused with someone who plays by the rules by now. :rofl:
That's why I adore Trump. He just keeps on keeping on doing what he wants and screw you if you don't like it. Sigh! My hero.
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Are you sure about that 'Officer' thing? With his background, I would expect him to have become an NCO in his later reserve time, since with only two years on active duty in the late sixties he likely did not make it to NCO ranks during his active hitch. I have been an 'Other ranks,' an NCO, and officer, and with no disrespect to any group, there is a WORLD of difference between noncommissioned officer and commissioned officer. The word 'Officer' by itself is NEVER used to describe an NCO, only as a shorthand term for commissioned and warrant officers.
I dunno where I ever put it, as it's been a long time ago, but if I recall correctly, his resume of his professional qualifications (in the food service industry)--which by the way actually are far from unimpressive, but those accomplishments might have been things he did before he became a primitive--showed two years of active duty in the U.S. Navy 1965-1967, and he's mentioned that other times, other places.
But then six years 1967-1973 as an officer in the U.S. Naval Reserves; he was in college at the time, perhaps financed by whatever the GI educational benefits were then (he attended an ultra-high-class small college in southeastern Pennsylvania), but the memory neglected to remember his rank.
As a professional civilian, really, an officer is an officer is an officer--whether a major or a corporal or a sergeant or an admiral, they're officers, and I respect them equally. A lieutenant's likely to get as much admiration and respect from me as a general is.
It's probable the sparkling old dude never went bad until into middle age, when he dumped his first wife, who'd been with him all through the trials and travails of the early years, and who was getting kind of stout and grey and drab, for his much-younger second wife.
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You snoop a lot, white boy.
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You snoop a lot, white boy.
Mehhh ... frank probably paid attention when Stc spoke of his life experiences on DU. And hasn't killed very many brain cells with recreational chemicals, so he remembers.
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You snoop a lot, white boy.
Oh now, I'm sure the primitives, the smartest people on the internet, know more about franksolich than franksolich knows about them.
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Hey Stinky...you do realize that this happened in a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the country?
California IIRC has every single gun law you can think of and that's on your wish list...and yet this STILL happened.
Let that sink in for a minute.
Speaking of which, I'm assuming most have you notice the alerts on most packaging, online, etc. There is always a caveat about California laws which mandate certain specific rules. Clearly and not so clearly written by lawyers.
Almost...almost makes me wish I would have gone to law school. Got a solid score on the LSAT, just didn't apply or go since I had a private company offer me a job after college.