The Conservative Cave

Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on November 23, 2015, 10:10:48 AM

Title: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: CC27 on November 23, 2015, 10:10:48 AM
Quote
F4lconF16 (3,660 posts)

Convince me to stay a liberal.


Sanders was my last hope for liberalism. He was my last hope that maybe a liberal could make a difference, or at least convince people that the current system is not 1working.

But then I see shit like in this thread: this (alao my response: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=77882) and I am totally ready to give up on liberalism entirely. I am done with the falsehoods, the pretension, the hypocrisy. I am done. Simply done.

Sanders isn't going to fix crap with supporters like this. (And Clinton is far worse, btw.) His movement, while it strikes at the heart of white america, is nothing when it comes to real transformatiom.

It does not embrace and center on black lives, or women's lives, or trans lives. His movement is about recreating an America that never existed. His movement is full of shit. I wouldn't say that except for the fact that almost every white person in Seattle that I've talked that supports him doesn't care at all about BLM.

I like Sanders. I think he gets it. But his movement doesn't.

If I don't vote for him, I'm done. I'm voting for the most left candidate, period. I couldn't care less about the Democratic Party. It has no meaning to me. It's a party that has fought for racism, for privilege, for the oppressors rather than the oppressed.

I'm done with it. It's time for radical solutions.

Convince me not to give up.

This is asking a hell of a lot from people who who have been asked far too much of already. But I really don't want to be done with the current system. The alternative is kinda crap. Revolution sucks. But I'm on the verge of becoming revolutionary, or at least close to it. So please, convince me not to abandon liberalism.

I want to believe.

Quote
Star Member bravenak (19,117 posts)
2. Hell, convince me first!

 

Stop thinking this is normal. Look and say, it is just a concentrate of all of the bad parts.

What? All talk no action.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118732914
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: Duke Nukum on November 23, 2015, 10:17:32 AM
Why are DUmmies and Democrats racist against white people?  Getting kind of sick of it.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: Skul on November 23, 2015, 10:21:18 AM
Dear  DUmptard, the Sanders "movement", is sh*t.   :whistling:
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: Bad Dog on November 23, 2015, 10:32:55 AM
"I'm on the verge of becoming revolutionary, or at least close to it." 

And this is where you will always be pond scum.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on November 23, 2015, 10:35:08 AM
Quote
He was my last hope that maybe a liberal could make a difference, or at least convince people that the current system is not 1working.

But then I see shit like in this thread: this (alao my response: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=77882) and I am totally ready to give up on liberalism entirely. I am done with the falsehoods, the pretension, the hypocrisy. I am done. Simply done.

Sanders isn't going to fix crap with supporters like this. (And Clinton is far worse, btw.) His movement, while it strikes at the heart of white america, is nothing when it comes to real transformatiom.

It does not embrace and center on black lives, or women's lives, or trans lives. His movement is about recreating an America that never existed. His movement is full of shit. I wouldn't say that except for the fact that almost every white person in Seattle that I've talked that supports him doesn't care at all about BLM.

I like Sanders. I think he gets it. But his movement doesn't.

If I don't vote for him, I'm done. I'm voting for the most left candidate, period. I couldn't care less about the Democratic Party. It has no meaning to me. It's a party that has fought for racism, for privilege, for the oppressors rather than the oppressed.

I'm done with it. It's time for radical solutions.

Convince me not to give up.

This is asking a hell of a lot from people who who have been asked far too much of already.
But I really don't want to be done with the current system. The alternative is kinda crap. Revolution sucks. But I'm on the verge of becoming revolutionary, or at least close to it. So please, convince me not to


(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/xgllya.gif)
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: Carl on November 23, 2015, 10:37:35 AM
Bring it pansy.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on November 23, 2015, 11:00:31 AM
Quote
Number23 (20,859 posts)
5. All I got to say about this... Look at the people MAKING those comments and the people

applauding it. They represent the worst of DU and have for YEARS.

"Bernie was BLM 50 years before BLM existed."

This is PRECISELY, EXACTLY 987% why the tone deaf ignorance of so many of his supporters has turned off so many MASSES of black people. This kind of shit RIGHT THERE. THAT is why.

To eLeBiNty!!!!!!1111!!!! and beyond  Clue me:  How many masses are there, rockhead?

Quote
Response to Number23 (Reply #5)Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:05 AM
Star Member F4lconF16 (3,660 posts)
8. Yeah...and i just got a massive dose of it at a gathering tonight.

I'm too young to remember what it was like years ago. But I imagine it was much the same.

This is why I'm a radical. And about done.    :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Ain't nothing to be fixed if we can't even talk about it honestly. You mean, you have been convinced that something needs fixed you just have no idea what.

White people are bad about that (me included, as I realized yet again after a party where whites were about 4% of people). It doesn't seem to make a difference how liberal one is, the only ones that understand are the people that live it daily.

 :thatsright:

And only the far left seems interested in at least trying to understand, even if we can't. They're the only ones who haven't tried to pretend they could.

Oh, yes.... they love little "down with the cause" white boys like you.  Your spot, against the wall, is already reserved.

CU-Boulder Anti-Racism Rally Canceled Because Organizers Are White

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/22/cu-boulder-anti-racism-rally-canceled-organizers-white/

Quote
The white students who wanted to protest racism were called racists by Ms. Ferribee, according to The Daily Camera:   :rofl:

“That’s a slap in the face and that’s practicing racism, whether they want to believe it or not,” Ferribee said. “They used their white privilege and oppressed voices and stifled voices that are experiencing this every day.”
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: Carl on November 23, 2015, 11:24:19 AM
Quote
And only the far left seems interested in at least trying to understand, even if we can't. They're the only ones who haven't tried to pretend they could.

Get over yourself you useless retard.
The only thing the left wants is a bunch of marginalized groups to pander to with promises of freebies.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: CollectivismMustDie on November 23, 2015, 11:25:01 AM
Quote
Convince me to stay a liberal.

You, and most of the DUmp, are so far to the left of the actual definition of 'liberal', it would be pointless to even discuss.

"Convince me to not get more radical".

Yeah, right.  :whatever:


CMD
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: SVPete on November 23, 2015, 11:26:25 AM
That "Revolution" thingy doesn't go too well. Though it took a couple of years, Lenin died of an assassination attempt by a socialist of a different flavor. Stalin took out lots of socialists of non-Bolshevik flavors ... and then turned his "loving attentions" to other Bolsheviks who were potential rivals. Being the leading Chekist under Stalin wasn't exactly a secure position, either, nor Chekist upper manglement.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: Duke Nukum on November 23, 2015, 11:33:35 AM
Dear F4lconF16 (3,660 posts),

There really is only one argument for you to 'stay a liberal' as you put it: You are too stupid and too racist to be anything else.

Even if you sent in a resignation letter resigning from Liberalism, you would still be a de facto liberal so that would be a wasted effort, just as wasted an effort as asking your fellow DUmmies to convince you to 'stay a liberal."

But if you are interested in being something other than a liberal, please sign up over hear and explain to me how an old, white man like Bernie Sanders, strikes at the heart of 'white america' whatever that is.

This invitation may be your only chance to be something other than liberal, so think hard on it.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on November 23, 2015, 11:35:18 AM
That "Revolution" thingy doesn't go too well. Though it took a couple of years, Lenin died of an assassination attempt by a socialist of a different flavor. Stalin took out lots of socialists of non-Bolshevik flavors ... and then turned his "loving attentions" to other Bolsheviks who were potential rivals. Being the leading Chekist under Stalin wasn't exactly a secure position, either, nor Chekist upper manglement.

First, they came for the Mensheviks......
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on November 23, 2015, 11:39:33 AM
But if you are interested in being something other than a liberal, please sign up over hear and explain to me how an old, white man like Bernie Sanders, strikes at the heart of 'white america' whatever that is.

They do come up with some doozies....
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: obumazombie on November 23, 2015, 02:15:43 PM
Dear  DUmptard, the Sanders "movement", is sh*t.   :whistling:

It was a movement based on a gut feeling intended to come from the vicinity of the diaphragm.
In the end it was centered in the bowel as a movement.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: USA4ME on November 23, 2015, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from:
F4lconF16

Convince me to stay a liberal.

 :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:

Oh, and before any of you primitives get anymore of your stupid, harebrained ideas, we don't want him either.

.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on November 23, 2015, 09:02:57 PM
It was a movement based on a gut feeling intended to come from the vicinity of the diaphragm.
In the end it was centered in the bowel as a movement.

 :cheersmate:   :thumbs: :hi5:

Quote
But I'm on the verge of becoming revolutionary

(http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/fb-image/images/teasers/SCRAPBOOK.v18-20.Feb4_.4.HipsterMarxism.jpg)
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: freedumb2003b on November 23, 2015, 09:31:01 PM
Quote
"Bernie was BLM 50 years before BLM existed."
Bowel Liberal Movement.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: freedumb2003b on November 23, 2015, 09:32:55 PM
Dear F4lconF16 (3,660 posts),

There really is only one argument for you to 'stay a liberal' as you put it: You are too stupid and too racist to be anything else.

Even if you sent in a resignation letter resigning from Liberalism, you would still be a de facto liberal so that would be a wasted effort, just as wasted an effort as asking your fellow DUmmies to convince you to 'stay a liberal."

But if you are interested in being something other than a liberal, please sign up over hear and explain to me how an old, white man like Bernie Sanders, strikes at the heart of 'white america' whatever that is.

This invitation may be your only chance to be something other than liberal, so think hard on it.

As long as other people earn money, he/she will be a liberal.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 23, 2015, 10:18:58 PM
Quote
F4lconF16 (3,660 posts)

Convince me to stay a liberal.


Sanders was my last hope for liberalism. He was my last hope that maybe a liberal could make a difference, or at least convince people that the current system is not 1working.

But then I see shit like in this thread: this (alao my response: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=77882) and I am totally ready to give up on liberalism entirely. I am done with the falsehoods, the pretension, the hypocrisy. I am done. Simply done.

Sanders isn't going to fix crap with supporters like this. (And Clinton is far worse, btw.) His movement, while it strikes at the heart of white america, is nothing when it comes to real transformatiom.

It does not embrace and center on black lives, or women's lives, or trans lives. His movement is about recreating an America that never existed. His movement is full of shit. I wouldn't say that except for the fact that almost every white person in Seattle that I've talked that supports him doesn't care at all about BLM.

I like Sanders. I think he gets it. But his movement doesn't.

If I don't vote for him, I'm done. I'm voting for the most left candidate, period. I couldn't care less about the Democratic Party. It has no meaning to me. It's a party that has fought for racism, for privilege, for the oppressors rather than the oppressed.

I'm done with it. It's time for radical solutions.

Convince me not to give up.

This is asking a hell of a lot from people who who have been asked far too much of already. But I really don't want to be done with the current system. The alternative is kinda crap. Revolution sucks. But I'm on the verge of becoming revolutionary, or at least close to it. So please, convince me not to abandon liberalism.

I want to believe.

So Bernie Sanders is not left enough??????????  :mental:
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: Karin on November 28, 2015, 12:51:19 PM
Quote
It does not embrace and center on black lives, or women's lives, or trans lives.

This statement suggests that there are hundreds of millions of trannies running around.  You know, a major voting bloc.   :rotf:  It cracks me up and mystifies me that an entire political party could throw so much political capital at a handful of freaks who want to use my bathroom. 

Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: landofconfusion80 on November 28, 2015, 01:23:36 PM
This statement suggests that there are hundreds of millions of trannies running around.  You know, a major voting bloc.   :rotf:  It cracks me up and mystifies me that an entire political party could throw so much political capital at a handful of freaks who want to use my bathroom.
used to be you'd set up cameras or glue mirrors to the top of your shoe for such excitement. Leave it to the primitives to find a lazier way
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: delilahmused on November 28, 2015, 02:11:02 PM
Perhaps if you guys stopped playing identity politics? One of your little factions of attention whores gets a bigger slice of the pandering pie and the others start throwing tantrums. Look at meeeeeeeee! Right now the game is Black Lives Matter, which is just another example of democrat racism...say what the BLM crowd wants to hear, pat them on their heads and blame the other guy. College BLM crap now includes special snowflakes who need safe spaces to protect themselves from words. You better hope these delicate flowers grow a backbone before going out into the real world because they won't survive. You liberals raised a bunch of coddled wimps who aren't capable of carrying on whatever the hell it is you stand for these days. Hiding under the skirt tales of your black, liberal, transgender Queer Studies professor to avoid icky words and ideas different than your own doesn't really prepare you for life.

Cindie
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 28, 2015, 04:52:42 PM
Yet another self-important poser, cheated by a 'Nobody loses' culture into thinking the world revolves around its pompous grandstanding.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: thundley4 on November 28, 2015, 07:28:10 PM
Perhaps if you guys stopped playing identity politics? One of your little factions of attention whores gets a bigger slice of the pandering pie and the others start throwing tantrums. Look at meeeeeeeee! Right now the game is Black Lives Matter, which is just another example of democrat racism...say what the BLM crowd wants to hear, pat them on their heads and blame the other guy.

Cindie

I hadn't really thought of it before, but it seems kind of obvious now.  BLM didn't exist just a short time ago, even though they claim cops have been killing blacks for decades. So what changed in the past few years?

A shift in perspective from the Democrat Party. The last few years they have been ignoring blacks in general, and they shifted their focus to illegal immigrants. Dems are smart enough to know that Hispanic is soon going to be the largest minority voting bloc in the country and they have to tap into it now.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: I_B_Perky on November 28, 2015, 09:51:29 PM
Quote
F4lconF16 (3,660 posts)

Convince me to stay a liberal.

<blah blah blah>


I'd like to convince you to jump off a tall building.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: Chris_ on November 28, 2015, 10:12:42 PM
Seconded :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 29, 2015, 06:24:11 AM
I hadn't really thought of it before, but it seems kind of obvious now.  BLM didn't exist just a short time ago, even though they claim cops have been killing blacks for decades. So what changed in the past few years?

A shift in perspective from the Democrat Party. The last few years they have been ignoring blacks in general, and they shifted their focus to illegal immigrants. Dems are smart enough to know that Hispanic is soon going to be the largest minority voting bloc in the country and they have to tap into it now.

Dead on.  H5 given.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: obumazombie on December 01, 2015, 06:03:36 PM
Dead on.  H5 given.

Leapfrogging off what thundley4 said...

Quote
I hadn't really thought of it before, but it seems kind of obvious now. BLM didn't exist just a short time ago, even though they claim cops have been killing blacks for decades. So what changed in the past few years?

A shift in perspective from the Democrat Party. The last few years they have been ignoring blacks in general, and they shifted their focus to illegal immigrants. Dems are smart enough to know that Hispanic is soon going to be the largest minority voting bloc in the country and they have to tap into it now.


My understanding of BLM is that it is an offshoot of the 60's radical group Black Panthers.
David Horowitz would know.
He is an expert on the subject because he used to be a founding member.
Title: Re: Convince me to stay a liberal.
Post by: FlaGator on December 01, 2015, 07:32:14 PM
Quote
F4lconF16 (3,660 posts)

Convince me to stay a liberal.

No one else wants you the way you currently are.