Response to cui bono (Reply #140)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:04 AM
Star Member bravenak (18,536 posts)
144. What is the Clinton Cave?
I know the conservative cave because Frank writes funny insults about me. Is that it? I'll have you know, that bravenak that posts at the conservative cave that says racist and strange things is not ME! That is a TROLL who likes harassing the cavers for some insane reason.
I'll have you know, that bravenak that posts at the conservative cave that says racist and strange things is not ME! That is a TROLL who likes harassing the cavers for some insane reason.
grasswire (43,953 posts)
13. even the Cavers couldn't shut you down, Steve.
Remember that fracas?
Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #146)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:05 AM
muriel_volestrangler (78,080 posts)
250. Well said. That's the best explanation of that Hillary site I've seen.
Yes, they ignored the postive Hillary site that was well publicised on DU. There are many pro-Hillary sites they could use that aren't associated with DU, and perhaps they do, but 'HCS', after months, is still a site with its front page half-full of boilerplate "insert your story here" messages. That's because they have no interest at all in attracting anyone who is just a Hillary supporter; the forums are now completely hidden from anyone who hasn't been invited to join them (which is why, I presume, the HCS members are in this thread, saying "yeah, well, prove it..."). Its purpose is to talk about DU in secret, and we've seen the results.
Its purpose is to talk about DU in secret,
Don't know how to screencap things on an android! :bawl: So wish I was tech savvy.
beam me up scottie (39,802 posts)
244. That's what always happens with offsite groups that exist only to trash other DUers.
They eventually implode because the members end up turning on each other.
It's only a matter of time before this one does too.
Ummm...BMUS...CU's Best/Worst of DU has been around...along with the rest of the site since around 2004. Conservative Cave and this very DUmpster has been around since 2008. Neither is anywhere close to imploding...both have sections that trash your stupid ideology.
Just sayin...
You would be better served speaking Troof2Boulders than attempting Troof2Moonbats.
NanceGreggs (18,164 posts)
126. This is the HEIGHT of DU insanity.
How can anyone from another site “target you for termination from DU? As a long-standing member here, the only people who could “terminate†you would be Skinner or EarlG. Somehow, I don’t see them doing that. Do you? And if you believe that posters on another site have some kind of influence over who DU Admins “terminateâ€, I’m sure we’d all like to hear that theory – in detail.
I am a member at the HRC Supporters site – the one allegedly “targeting†you. And I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you’re not even a topic of conversation over there. And neither are the many people here who are so convinced of their own importance, they believe they are being conspired against by a group of people who, quite frankly, don’t even recognize their user names.
Let’s not be coy. There are many, MANY people on DU who “discuss among themselves†– via FB, email, PMs, or other sites – about DUers they like, don’t like, believe to be RW trolls, believe to be returned zombies, believe to be socks, and people they would love to see banned. They also discuss REC’ing certain OPs, coming to a poster’s defence when they think they’re being ganged-up on in a thread, and give a head’s-up on “alertable†posts.
This is true of both BS supporters and HRC supporters – and let’s not pretend that is not the reality. It is also true of the RWers who post here and coordinate elsewhere – and let’s not pretend the fact that they freely post here isn’t a reality either.
DU, by Skinner’s own calculation, is comprised of 85% BS supporters. That means that any post alerted on will most likely be adjudicated by a jury that is made up of a majority of BS supporters. So explain for us how a fraction of the 15% HRC-supporting DUers who are members the HRC Supporting site are in a position to “target†anyone on DU. Explain how that small number of people are able to exert any kind of control over a site that consists of 85% BS supporters – and do tell, because this is an explanation I REALLY want to hear.
As for those who insist that the HRC Supporters site is a “hate siteâ€, after what has been allowed to be posted on DEMOCRATICUnderground over the past six years about DEMOCRATS, it is beyond the most blatant hypocrisy for anyone posting on DU to think they are in a position to accuse anyone of “hateful†posts elsewhere.
The Hillary Supporters site was created as a direct response to the need for HRC supporters to have a place where they could post news about Hillary’s campaign without being harassed by anti-HRC posters – in the same way The BOG was created as a place where Obama supporters could discuss his presidency and accomplishments without being harassed by anti-Obama posters. Yes, that’s right – people who support the Democratic president and the current Democratic front-runner have had to find safe havens from the anti-Democratic contingent right here on DemocraticUnderground.
Think about that. Let it sink in. The very posters who support Democrats have had to find a refuge from DemocraticUnderground.
If you give any credence to anyone telling you that you have been “targeted†by posters on the HRC Supporters site, I invite you (or them) to post the proof thereof. And if you (or they) have no such proof (and I know you/they don’t), I’d say you’re probably being “targeted†by someone who thinks you are gullible and easily-manipulated into believing anything you’re told.
So let’s have it, Steve – let’s have the proof that you’re being targeted by anyone, anywhere, for any reason.
joshcryer (53,289 posts)
251. Talking about riling up posters to get them hidden is a shit move.
No matter how you cut it. I know about the DU FB group. A lot of shifty creeps on there. Wouldn't be surprised if I got a mention now that I said it. **** it, it's bullshit whoever does it. If it was my forum I would not allow that shit to stand. I'd tell them to shut the **** up and that I wasn't going to host such toxic shit.
... the RWers who post here and coordinate elsewhere ...
What a bunch of fragile flowers! I imagine the (mostly) sensible post by NG didn't go over well (or was largely ignored). Sensible, except for:
OK, have ya'll been holding out on me? Is there some inner sanctum for the hyper-elites that I'm not allowed to see? If ya'll coordinate your moles I sure haven't seen it.
OK, have ya'll been holding out on me? Is there some inner sanctum for the hyper-elites that I'm not allowed to see? If ya'll coordinate your moles I sure haven't seen it.
bravenak (18,536 posts)
36. I wish I was really MORE EQUAL as some accuse me of.
Silly season.
Fix The Stupid (353 posts)
285. You are the biggest racist on this site.
And I don't care if this gets hidden.
All you do is sow confusion and hate. It is transparent as glass.
YOU make DU suck.
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Oh my.
What a magnificent, glorious thread!
And just in time to remind everyone that nominations for the Top DUmmies of 2015 open up next week; Thanksgiving Eve, about supper time.
William769 (46,010 posts) Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:03 PM
9. They seem to see the boogieman everywhere when in actuality he's nowhere.
These posts are so transparent.
I only wished I had a fraction of the power people claim that I have. It's actually funny if you think about it.
ismnotwasm (24,495 posts) Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:42 PM
in response to Wills, the William769 primitive
52. Bill, I love you and I love your site
As far as the negative comments on this thread --I always consider the sources and look down on, in deepest pity in some cases, in hard cynicism in others. Ultimetly, they mean nothing.
(Psst..nobody is being "targeted")
MaggieD (4,069 posts) Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:30 PM
to the big guy, who's terminal (in his own words)
38. LOL!
I read that site everyday and have never seen you mentioned once. Don't flatter yourself.
but it seems Wills knows how his friend franksolich feels:
"everyone in Russian Special Forces has heard of the name Michael Westen. He is a myth like the bogeyman."
Cha (167,741 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:15 AM
161. Jury Result..
When being "targeted" is a figment ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7360860
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Disruptive post, calls the OP a liar. Please hide it.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:13 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Lock the thread, please. Please. Please. Please. Stop the madness. Intervene. Please. While what is posted from an outside source can't be controlled, what is allowed on DU can be. Not a single post in this thread serves to better Democratic Underground. Not a single one. To include the post currently on alert. Please. Lock the thread.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Particularly out of line considering who she's saying this about. Hide.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh Please.. "disruptive"?.. WAH!.. it's a valid Opinion.. no one is targeting OS.. I'm sorry he feels that way.
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Response to betsuni (Reply #235)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:13 AM
Star Member yardwork (39,283 posts)
265. This thread is a hysterical mob. Shameful.
Response to betsuni (Reply #235)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:41 AM
Star Member ScreamingMeemie (66,741 posts)
294. People are angry and it appears from reading posts from that forum,
rightfully so. It is not how I go about showing my disgust for what has transpired over there, but I can see why those words were used. They took the enjoyment that some get from Internet debate and turned it into something twisted...and now, seem to be defending it. Sorry, but I don't really feel that bad.
Disclaimer: I post in neither the Bernie group nor the Hillary group.
NanceGreggs (18,164 posts)
176. I didn't call the OP a liar.
I merely suggested that if he has any proof of what he is saying, now would be the time to post that proof for all to see.
Surely that would clear-up any doubt as to the veracity of his assertions.
(http://www.hollandsg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/3mission-accomplished.jpg)
:fuelfire:
By the way, to protect the innocent, I'd probably better say this:
There has been no collaboration, no cooperation, no coordination, between the primitives supporting the worthier candidate for the Democrat nomination, and the DUmpster; it's all simply a coincidence that both sides resent elite authoritarian close-minded snobs.
One can bank on it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027360502 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027360502)
I only have Internet access through my phone for a while, so I'll have to post like this for a little bit. Don't know how long. I just thought this was funny. Apologies for not being able to drag the quotes over.
I think you're just being lazy, white boy.
I'll have you know, that bravenak that posts at the conservative cave that says racist and strange things is not ME! That is a TROLL who likes harassing the cavers for some insane reason.
Whatever cali.
Oh and by the way the real bravenak left you a message:
Remember, I only suspect it's the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, as she hates bravenak, and would stop at nothing to make bravenak look bad.
We'll probably learn more after this faux bravenak slips up, and says something bannable, after which it's okay for the moderators to release certain things, such as the ISP number.
But conservativecave's never done that to current members, no matter how abhorrent to most of us; as long as they're not banned, their information is confidential. If we dared release such information prematurely, it'd probably have a profoundly negative influence on regular members' sense of security here, and we don't want that.
So that's the rule. Once one's banned, all bets are off. But not until then.
The thought occurred to me that perhaps the reason OS (who is dying by the way) created a thread like that wasn't because of something that actually happened...but because of the attention it would draw.
His posts haven't garnered much attention as of late...in fact most have been still born.
This one however...
362 replies, 9953 views
Star Member William769 (46,022 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:52 AM
319. I closed the site down because of innuendos like this thread.
Now that nothing can be read, let the rumors fly!
I guess everyone love a good conspiracy theory.
Have a nice day.
Javaman (45,064 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:58 AM
341. I love this thread. this is up there with the famous "bomb the moon" and
the "I will not be silenced!" thread about when DU had the unrec function.
there is just not enough popcorn in the universe for this one.
thanks for the laughs.
Uh oh.
Not good. Not.good.at.all.
The primitives supporting the worthier candidate caved to the Bernie bullies. Again.
That means it's only the brave valiant heroic courageous--but standing alone--bravenak on Skins's island, and the DUmpster, to defeat the bullies.
For those who never saw it, it was such a nice-looking site; very professional, tons more aesthetic than scamdy.com ever was.(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Eferrari/august%202015/hill_zpssowifnhb.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Eferrari/media/august%202015/hill_zpssowifnhb.jpg.html)
I tried logging on to see what was up, but failed. I dunno; either I forgot my proper user name, or the password. It's been ages since I was there.
After the original bitch fest at the DUmp they closed of registration to by invite only.
That was when they hid most of the forums.
Well, it wasn't that important; I had no "plans," no unscrupulous motives, when originally signing up there.
I just wanted to scout the terrain, much as an Eskimo from Yukon or an Indian from Paraguay would've been interested in a glimpse of the Eastern Front during the second world war; just idle curiosity to see what it looks like.
336 responses to that thread.Well, this thread is probably the closest thing OS will ever have to a legacy so it is probably a good thing to not meddle with it.
And the only comment Mr. Mini Tacos has made is the OP.
They are just paranoid.
We are harmless as can be. (http://i6.ifrm.com/13592/198/emo/angel4.gif)
It was the crazy bernie bots that were vicious.
Star Member Boudica the Lyoness (2,612 posts)
358. I have picked a candidate yet
and haven't got into any of it yet... but just wondering, did you support the interruption by BLM at that Saunder's rally in Seattle?
Response to Boudica the Lyoness (Reply #358)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:16 PM
Star Member sheshe2 (27,723 posts)
362. What does that have to do with what I posted to Steve? nt
Response to sheshe2 (Reply #362)Yes...yes...let the hate flow thru you. :zap:
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:40 PM
Star Member Boudica the Lyoness (2,612 posts)
369. Well... **** all I suppose.
I just breezed in here and asked you a question. I don't live here on DU and I forgot for a tiny moment about all the butthurtery and shit that goes on.
After the original bitch fest at the DUmp they closed of registration to by invite only.
That was when they hid most of the forums.
LMAO.. Invite Only?
And Republicans are the ones who are close minded.
If the hypocrisy wasn't so obvious, it would be comical.
Oh Frank you are ****-all so stupid.
Oh Frank you are ****-all so stupid.I cannot believe you have been outed as a fraud by Bravenak herself yet you still appropriate her moniker.
437 replies, 12829 views
Number23 (20,793 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:18 PM
428. This thread has to be one of the most bizarre, and yes, one of the most idiotic things I've seen
here in a long time. And that is TRULY saying something.
It does nothing to change my feelings of the OP who I still believe is a person of good character. But it does nothing but exacerbate the feelings I have towards the people that are leaping like kangaroos, practically howling at the damn moon because they LIVE for this kind of juvenile, disruptive bullshit. People that have been known for years to spread lies all over this web site about posters and entire forums and scurry like diseased mice when called on it.
People that squat in forums, not to discuss issues, but to attack, attack, attack any and everybody who disagrees with them. And they don't care how low they have to go to do so. These are the folks racing up and down this thread because they LOVE this kind of shit. They live for it. So if nothing else, this thread did nothing but expose them even further. Too bad they don't have enough dignity or intelligence to be ashamed about their behavior. It would go along way towards making this web site readable again.
The giant sweaty one still hasn't posted since the OP. All I can think of is the mess that poor Marta has to come home to every night with this fat bastard raging around the house all day.
People that squat in forums, not to discuss issues, but to attack, attack, attack any and everybody who disagrees with them. And they don't care how low they have to go to do so. These are the folks racing up and down this thread because they LOVE this kind of shit. They live for it. So if nothing else, this thread did nothing but expose them even further.
Oh Frank you are ****-all so stupid.
I cannot believe you have been outed as a fraud by Bravenak herself yet you still appropriate her moniker.
Talk about stupid.
Uh huh.
The used breakfast dishes still in the sink, uncleaned.
Snack food wrappers tossed all around.
The sofa cushions in disarray.
The morning newspaper not yet brought in, even though it's after 5 p.m.
Dirty clothes on the bedroom floor.
Ahhhh, nothing more satisfying than a DUmp circular firing squad. I think this all started yesterday with an earlier thread about someone going after earwig Cali.
Oh my, that's a good one too. It's too bad it's now outdated.
One sees the buzzy one desperately trying to instill some manners and civility into the Bernie bullies, but failing.....
LMAO.. Invite Only?
And Republicans are the ones who are close minded.
If the hypocrisy wasn't so obvious, it would be comical.
547 replies, 16264 views
Hortensis (2,475 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:42 PM
489. Dishonest deflection. OS made a specific charge and took a powder
without even a pretence of backing it up.
The repeated attempts in dozens of posts to pretend that little problem doesn't exist, while in effect encouraging poor Ohama Steve to worry unnecessarily, exemplify what I mean when I say one should always consider the sources when evaluating a situation.
As stated before, actual Democratic Party/Hillary supporters here are only about 15%. It has become a hangout for extremist anti-liberal leftists, anti-Democrats, and economically left conservatives, bizarre as all that may be. Those here who also belong to the other, private website are a fraction of the 15%. I am not among them, for instance. Those little realities should also be considered when imagining who's going after whom.
beam me up scottie (39,849 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:56 PM
495. So you can't defend their behaviour but are still condemning DUers who are being targeted.
After reading your diatribe about "extremist anti-liberal leftists, anti-Democrats, and economically left conservatives" I am considering the source.
The right wing of the party loves to throw around accusations like that and always ends up sounding exactly like the Republicans.
It's obvious to almost everyone here who is going after whom. I have to wonder why so many choose to keep their blinders on while complaining about how unfair it is to call out another website that is being used to attack members of this forum.
Because it couldn't POSSIBLY be true, even though there is overwhelming evidence that they've done it to others, amirite?
bravenak (18,616 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:10 PM
505. So he can just show the evidence. Easy peasy.
He knows how to copy paste.
Squinch (9,842 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:53 PM
493. DU has officially become the stupidest site on the internet.
No one left but the drama mongers who will set their hair on fire over absolutely nothing. Most of whom are in this thread.
Flame away at me, but I'm out.
bravenak (18,625 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:05 PM
response to the big guy's original post
561. So still no evidence of any of this?
Hmmm. Maybe your friend was not being honest. Kinda sad how one would post accusations of being targeted but provide not one shred of evidence.
bravenak
561. So still no evidence of any of this?
Hmmm. Maybe your friend was not being honest. Kinda sad how one would post accusations of being targeted but provide not one shred of evidence.
Uh huh.
The used breakfast dishes still in the sink, uncleaned.
Snack food wrappers tossed all around.
The sofa cushions in disarray.
The morning newspaper not yet brought in, even though it's after 5 p.m.
Dirty clothes on the bedroom floor.
Oh my.
What a magnificent, glorious thread!
And just in time to remind everyone that nominations for the Top DUmmies of 2015 open up next week; Thanksgiving Eve, about supper time.
Glad I stumbled upon it. Didn't know what I had, I guess.
136 Recs
660 replies, 20224 views
This is what gets me:
And yet there is still no comment from the Big Guy except for the OP.
bravenak (18,625 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:05 PM
response to the big guy's original post
561. So still no evidence of any of this?
Hmmm. Maybe your friend was not being honest. Kinda sad how one would post accusations of being targeted but provide not one shred of evidence.
bravenak (18,625 posts) Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:05 PM
response to the big guy's original post
561. So still no evidence of any of this?
Hmmm. Maybe your friend was not being honest. Kinda sad how one would post accusations of being targeted but provide not one shred of evidence.
I think you're just being lazy, white boy.
Oh Frank you are ****-all so stupid.
Someone here is being judgemental. How do you know he is White?
C'mon man. Don't you know we're conservatives, and as such do not allow POC into our neighborhood? He gotta be white because...of something.I'm black, in protest of the current administration.
C'mon man. Don't you know we're conservatives, and as such do not allow POC into our neighborhood? He gotta be white because...of something.