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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on November 17, 2015, 07:39:21 AM
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Blue_In_AK (44,455 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027352797
It saddens me to see xenophobia even here at DU.
That is all. Good night, sweet dreams in your comfy beds, everyone.
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Pacifist Patriot (18,061 posts)
20. I've given this a lot of thought over the last few days.
I know without doubt that I would prefer the risk of dying in a random terrorist act at the end of a shorter life filled with love, compassion, kindness, and adventure than die in my bed at the end of a long life of fear, suspicion, and hatred.
I'm not being flippant. I really have been considering this in light of all the commentary I have read and heard since the refugee crisis became news, and especially since Friday night's attacks.
In fact, now that I have a child who has left the nest, I have plenty of room in my home. I'd be happy to take a refugee or two and open my house to them if it came to that need.
Oh, bullshit, you whiny little faggot. You'd be begging for your life pleading with tears running down your face. As for doing shit for 'refugees' when it happens I will believe it.
FLPanhandle (4,776 posts)
30. What about fear of a population full of armed people and easily attained guns? What about fear of what climate change could do? Fear is a perfectly acceptable emotion. The trick is to know when it's rational and logicial to fear something and when it isn't. As for the refugees, the best way to counter fear to for the president to explain exactly how they will be screened.
:thatsright:
Koinos (974 posts)
10. I believe that fear or hatred of all religious doctrines is unreasonable.
Militant atheism is unreasonable. There are ethical lessons to be learned from every religious tradition.
The doctrine of "love your neighbor as yourself" (restated in many ways in every ethical or religious system) is quite reasonable and humane.
Hateful religious speech is another issue altogether. People who use words to stoke their own greed, hatred, and ignorance are the problem. And these people will always be able to find some texts that "justify" their unreasonable hatred.
But why fear words? Critical thinking and ethical principle help sort things out.
It might be better to ask whether anger is reasonable. There is certainly a lot of it these days, but is it "practical"? Does it make things better rather than worse?
There is a lot of anger everywhere, even on DU. I fear anger more than words.
BlueMTexpat (4,040 posts)
14. It is ALL radical religious doctrines
that are the problem.
Even then, it is only certain fanatical members who actually act on the radicalism.
US foreign policy - especially since the 1980s with Reagan's deliberate arming of the mujaheddine in Afghanistan and subsequent Bush wars (Iraq I & II, and Afghanistan) - has exponentially driven the cause of radical Islam. The ongoing cancer of the I/P situation has certainly not helped.
The overwhelming majority of Muslims - as are overwhelming majorities of any religions - are not terrorists and they should not be treated as such, nor should they be feared. That is certainly unreasonable.
rjsquirrel (385 posts)
16. So you decide what beliefs are "radical?" What about practitioners of the Native American Church? Some pretty extreme views are part of that for some people. Being anti religion for yourself is one thing. Bigotry is anther.
When it comes down to it DU in general and Liberals as well are always about "It's for your own good that we limit your freedoms"...
malaise (134,696 posts)
39. The worst thing about xenophobia is that other xenophobes on other countries think the same way and we all suffer.
:thatsright:
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Blue_In_AK (44,455 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027352797
It saddens me to see xenophobia even here at DU.
That is all. Good night, sweet dreams in your comfy beds, everyone.
Don't worry...you won't care about others xenophobia after ISIS kills you.
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BlueMTexpat (4,040 posts)
14.
US foreign policy - especially since the 1980s with Reagan's deliberate arming of the mujaheddine in Afghanistan and subsequent Bush wars (Iraq I & II, and Afghanistan) - has exponentially driven the cause of radical Islam. The ongoing cancer of the I/P situation has certainly not helped.
Sorry, DUmb****, but none of that compares to the actions of the father of radical islam, your favorite failed President, Mr Jimmuh Carter. Without his ****ery in Iran, very little of what you mentioned would have happened.
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[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=_S1qg6on6Dc[/youtube]
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US foreign policy - especially since the 1980s with Reagan's deliberate arming of the mujaheddine in Afghanistan and subsequent Bush wars (Iraq I & II, and Afghanistan) - has exponentially driven the cause of radical Islam. The ongoing cancer of the I/P situation has certainly not helped.
And who exactly...Reagan...Bush 41 or Bush 43 do you blame for the occupation of Jerusulem and the Holy Lands in the 1200's ?
I guess Cheney is to blame for the Ottoman wars in the 13th Century.
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I think that Pacifist Patriot would be singing a different tune when the knife his held to throat and the video camera is recording.
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Blue_In_AK (44,455 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027352797
It saddens me to see xenophobia even here at DU.
That is all. Good night, sweet dreams in your comfy beds, everyone.
It saddens me to see xenophobiaphobia, even there, at DU. I mean, lets face it, sometimes fearing the outsider is the rational response.
DUmmies are xenophobic against both Republicans and conservatives, so I'm not sure they are the ones to lecture on the topic.
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FLPanhandle (4,776 posts)
... As for the refugees, the best way to counter fear to for the president to explain exactly how they will be screened.
Glad you brought that up ****tard. From February 2014:
The Department of Homeland Security and the State Department published the new exemptions Wednesday in the Federal Register to narrow a ban in the Immigration and Nationality Act excluding refugees and asylum seekers who had provided limited material support, no matter how minor, to terrorists.
"These exemptions cover five kinds of limited material support that have adversely and unfairly affected refugees and asylum seekers with no tangible connection to terrorism: material support that was insignificant in amount or provided incidentally in the course of everyday social, commercial, family or humanitarian interactions, or under significant pressure," a DHS official explained to The Daily Caller.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/05/obama-admin-changes-immigration-law-allows-immigrants-who-supported-terrorists-into-us/
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Koinos (974 posts)
10. I believe that fear or hatred of all religious doctrines is unreasonable.
Militant atheism is unreasonable. There are ethical lessons to be learned from every religious tradition.
The doctrine of "love your neighbor as yourself" (restated in many ways in every ethical or religious system) is quite reasonable and humane.
Hateful religious speech is another issue altogether. People who use words to stoke their own greed, hatred, and ignorance are the problem. And these people will always be able to find some texts that "justify" their unreasonable hatred.
But why fear words? Critical thinking and ethical principle help sort things out.
It might be better to ask whether anger is reasonable. There is certainly a lot of it these days, but is it "practical"? Does it make things better rather than worse?
There is a lot of anger everywhere, even on DU. I fear anger more than words.
OK, (D)Ummie. Now, quote something Islamic?
Go ahead. :whistling:
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Blue_In_AK (44,455 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027352797
It saddens me to see xenophobia even here at DU.
That is all. Good night, sweet dreams in your comfy beds, everyone.
DU is pretty xenophobic to begin with. :mental:
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Blah, blah, blah. Hope they're enjoying their swim in the proverbial Egyptian river:
(http://www.parstimes.com/MODIS/egypt2000.jpg)
On the bright side, BHO seems hell-bent on providing that one poster to open his/her home to a terr ..... errrr ......... refugee or two.
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FLPanhandle (4,776 posts)
30. What about fear of a population full of armed people and easily attained guns? What about fear of what climate change could do? Fear is a perfectly acceptable emotion. The trick is to know when it's rational and logicial to fear something and when it isn't. As for the refugees, the best way to counter fear to for the president to explain exactly how they will be screened.[
It will be no different than the screening method used on the Tsarnaev brothers.
One of them even lived in Chechnya still collecting Massachusetts EBT benefits while in training camp. The fed's also missed screening him on return.
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[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=_S1qg6on6Dc[/youtube]
See, I love this you tube channel although you'd think the guy would be a whiny little liberal.
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(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/elian_zpsiwarsvve.jpg)
#refugeeswelcome (http://)
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I'm glad we didn't have "social media" in the 90s like we do now. Someone would have found out who that agent was and made his life hell for doing his job.
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I'm glad we didn't have "social media" in the 90s like we do now. Someone would have found out who that agent was and made his life hell for doing his job.
Only if a "person of color" died in the process of him doing his job.
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And who exactly...Reagan...Bush 41 or Bush 43 do you blame for the occupation of Jerusulem and the Holy Lands in the 1200's ?
I guess Cheney is to blame for the Ottoman wars in the 13th Century.
Don't let the DUmptards forget that mooslims have been attacking Europe since the 8th Century. Christianity in the 8th century (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_the_8th_century)
But I digress it was probably Bush's fault. :-)